William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> wrote:
> Actually, the 88000 was killed off because Sun went with the SPARCs for
> their next generation of machines, the Sun-4 series.
So...how did/do you read the 386i? Back then, I read it as Sun
hedging its bets against a total victory by Intel in the CPU Wars of
the late 1980s: they could sell Motorola, Intel, and SPARC today
(today being then, not now) and promise to be around tomorrow no
matter what the CPU of tomorrow looked like.
-Frank McConnell
> The 320H is a decent machine (unlike the 220 dog), but lacks a ethernet
> port. Like most RS/6000s, it has screaming floating point, and can use XGA
> (a bit more tube freindly than other workstations).
[Pause while I get up from my desk and go and look at our RS/6000s]
Hey! You're right! Our 320 machines (320E, upgraded from 320 something
else I think, equivalent to 320H) have ethernet on a microchannel card.
That shouldn't be too hard to find...
We've had our 320s for six years or more, our 375 for four or five. We
are thinking of getting something faster but it's hard to match the FP
performance on anything modern. With luck, when (if) we do, I'll get
the old ones. FWIW the fastest FP we found in our sort of price range
was the RS/6000 model 397. The last of the POWER RISC machines, much
faster than the Power PC RS/6000s...
But I fear we're a bit off topic here...
Philip.
some guy at work knew i enjoyed collecting old stuff so he contacted me and
gave me all this:
15 apple scsi peripheral cables, 7 that were never opened
3 //e enhancement kits. 1 in original packaging. also some loose chips thrown
in with the rest of the junk i got.
localtalk locking connector kit. <?>
2 ext 80 col card 1 in original packaging never opened.
1 imagewriter 2 /lq localtalk option
2 mouse //e 1 never opened
//gs mem exp card
2 supr serial card 1 never opened
1 mouse //e
workstation card never opened <!>
6 apple 256k mem exp upgrade kits. only 1 was opened.
microtek language card
unidisk 5.25 controller
undisk 3.5 controller
many user manuals for apple // and mac some never opened
tandy dcm3 modem
2 ext 80 col card
1 scsi cable extender
grappler card
ibm 2.88 floppy drive. has standard form factor unlike ps2 2.88 floppy.
proprinter ribbons
ps2 mouse never used in box
ps2 tape backup for qic80 tapes with matching install b and c kits
appleshare pc program
future domain isa scsi card
2 ps2 4meg kits never used
1 16meg ecc mem
1 box of 10 2meg upgrade kits. never used!
mca 16/4 token ring nic
mca 2-8 meg mem expansion card
11 boca 512/1meg svga isa video cards never used
apple tutorial disks never used.
also a few other minor things i cant remember.
everything above remain in their original boxes
im cancelling a fishing trip to go back to his house tonight and pick up some
more things. he used to either work for skool system or was with a servicer
involved with skools which is where this probably all came from. i'll update
when i get the other goodies. unfortunately, no lisa stuff, although it cant
hurt to ask. i'll probably keep most of this although i bet i could make a
killing hyping it up for sale on ebay... 8-(
david
Hi,
I was wondering if there's a surefire way of telling if an IBM-PC has its
original motherboard, without opening the case. I saw one at the
Salvation Army today and was considering dragging it home (though I
decided to take another machine instead).
The machine did have a cassette port in the back, with a femal DIN
connector. Is this attached to the motherboard?
The machine also had a full complement of cards in its slots, with lots of
ports coming out of it. And a 3.5" drive that was poorly fitted into the
case.
I'm wondering if I should make a trip downtown sometime this weekend, with
the car.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
Sounds cool. Many of the greatest design concepts are stopped... not
because of bugs, not because of tiredness of developers, but because of the
only thing obstructing innovation: Money.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: George Currie <g(a)kurico.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: NeXT cubes or slabs.
Actually they (NeXT) had started work on a dual Motorola 88000 machines
before NeXT dropped out of the hardware biz. Some former NeXT hardware
guys went on to form a company called FirePower to design PREP?, CHRP?
compliant PPC computers. They released a few but were then bought by
Motorola and of course we all know what happened to
PREP/CHRP/WhatEVER.
George
Not to mention the HP-110 Portables . . .
> operating systems in rom? that seems fairly popular. my atari portfolio has
> dos in rom as well as my tandy 100 has apps in rom. even the original 2011 IBM
> PS1 had dos in rom.
>
> david
>
> In a message dated 98-06-26 14:22:44 EDT, you write:
>
> << I LOVE that idea. Now, it'd need to be EPROM, especially nowadays with bug
> fixes, a new version every other day of the week, etc. but still, it's a way
> cool concept. Which computers did this?
> Ciao, >>
>
>
>
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Disclaimer: |
| |
| These opinions are entirely my own, and in no way reflect the |
| policies or opinions of my employer. |
| |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net> wrote:
] Picked up a cartridge for the Coco t'other day, and I'm not sure what it
] is. It says "Cat. No. 26-3129" and "Color Computer Controller" on it. Has
] the card-edge connector where it plugs in, then another, smaller one on the
] back end. My guess is it's a floppy controller?
Here is a URL for you:
http://members.tripod.com/~qtv/index-7.html
It lists Radio Shack items and catalog numbers. According to that,
what you've got is a "Color Thinline Disk #0 Kit 349.95". I suppose
that part number was for the entire kit, drive and controller both.
Bill.
operating systems in rom? that seems fairly popular. my atari portfolio has
dos in rom as well as my tandy 100 has apps in rom. even the original 2011 IBM
PS1 had dos in rom.
david
In a message dated 98-06-26 14:22:44 EDT, you write:
<< I LOVE that idea. Now, it'd need to be EPROM, especially nowadays with bug
fixes, a new version every other day of the week, etc. but still, it's a way
cool concept. Which computers did this?
Ciao, >>
If you ask me, CHRP was worthless, like the rest of the Apple cloning
program. In the end, not a soul made a cent off that whole thing, and
many people were stuck with machines that didn't have warranty /
support. Lastly, what's so good about a DB25 serial port on a Mac
anyway? Now USB is good. Could NeXTs run any non-NeXT software?
>Sounds cool. Many of the greatest design concepts are stopped... not
>because of bugs, not because of tiredness of developers, but because of
the
>only thing obstructing innovation: Money.
>
>Tim
>Actually they (NeXT) had started work on a dual Motorola 88000 machines
>before NeXT dropped out of the hardware biz. Some former NeXT hardware
>guys went on to form a company called FirePower to design PREP?, CHRP?
>compliant PPC computers. They released a few but were then bought by
>Motorola and of course we all know what happened to
>PREP/CHRP/WhatEVER.
>
>George
>
>
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
