In a message dated 98-04-12 07:24:27 EDT, you write:
<< >Hotze wrote:
> I'm sure that we could find a TRS-80 model 1 CASE
>> somewhere for you.
>
>> Tim D. Hotze >>
well, i have a model 1 with a keypad that i could take a hacksaw to...
david
Just wanted to let everyone know that Caldera, which now
owns all Digital Research software, has made CP/M freely
available! I discovered this by accident when I went to
download OpenDOS.
Check it out at:
http://www.caldera.com/dos/html/legacyindex.html
They have a link to an unofficial CP/M page with tons of
other software.
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>> From: "Jeff Kaneko" <Jeff.Kaneko(a)ifrsys.com
>>
>> Guys:
>>
>> Afer looking at a number of responses, Uncle Roger's position
>> seems the most logical to me (besides, one other person suggested
>> this also). I think I'll buy that parts to build this, and just keep
>> it until needed.
>>
>> Building it won't be a priority, though. The MP-A wasn't exactly the
>> best SS-50 CPU available. I have a NOS Thomas Instruments Super CPU,
>> that I've wanted to build for years. Compared with other S-50 boards
>> of that era, it had alot of cool features. I am working on getting a
>> couple of scarce parts for its companion video board.
>>
>> Jeff
From: Bill Yakowenko <yakowenk(a)cs.unc.edu>
>One other thing, before soldering stuff onto that board, make a copy
>of it. (Do photocopiers make decent prints of bare boards?) Once
>a board has chips soldered onto it, it can be a pain to figure out
>which things connect to what. Having a bare-board print could help
>a lot in reverse-engineering the schematic (although I suspect there
>are still MP-A schematics to be had out there). And who knows, you
>might someday want to clone that board.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill.
There are not only schematics, but assembly instructions and a three
color print showing the top traces in red, bottom traces in blue, and
component placement in black.
I picked an MP-Ab bare board and documentation at a hamfest a long
time ago and never used it having gone with Percom's SBC/9 CPU board
and Percom's Electric Window video board.
If anybody absolutely needs copies of the docs, then I will see what
I can do.
Mike
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:06:32 +0300, "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh> wrote:
>>Yeah, but could such a thing be done on Linux/UNIX OS's? I'm guessing
that
{snip}
I'm sure that Microsoft used NT for their implementation, but aren't
there Un*x-based NNTP servers available?? I think that there is a post in
today's digest about it.
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
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Sometimes advertising annoys me too. But when I think about it,
maybe I'd rather have those ads than not. Someday maybe I'll get
something I want from one of them if prices stay within reach.
More recently, I've created a related dillemna of my own. I've
been talking with a recycler, trying to convince him to offer whole
boards or computers for sale, rather than just a few chips that he
pulls from them. In doing so, I pointed out that an Altair sold for
so much money recently. Of course, I also pointed out that that
particular sale may have been a fluke, and he shouldn't necessarily
expect that.
The dillemna is this: these are exactly the kind of guys that will
annoy me most. They have no inherent interest in preserving old
machinery, and would have no remorse in melting down an Altair for
twenty-three cents worth of metal. They will more than happy to
behave as kidnappers, demanding ransom with rare artifacts at stake,
happily driving prices up as high as they can.
Of course, the obvious reply is about free-market economics, prices
adjusting to meet demand, and all that. What I'm thinking is, maybe
we should be glad that there is not yet a well-entrenched market for
this old stuff, with guide-books establishing fair pricing and such.
When that happens, scarcity will force all the old machines into the
hands of rich know-nothing collectors, and out of the reach of the
hackers who would cherish them for what they are.
But how do we discourage that from happening, while at the same time
trying to divert machinery from the acid-bath? The only argument
that recyclers seem likely to listen to is about making money. But
each time that argument gets used, it nudges us toward the day when
all of our old computers lie decaying in display cabinets of the
affluent, rather than living and working happily in our own basements.
Ideas?
Bill.
If you want it bad enough everything is possible.
I do belive it is our duty to perform these tasks. An x1541 cable allows you
to connect a commodore disk drive to a PC why not make it the other way
around and use the PC as a disk drive "server" for the C64, VIC20 and C128?
And that is only one thought.
On a wall at Disney world or is that Epcot center (in the ) there is an
inscription that says "If you can dream it, you can build it".
The PC bus is so simple that even custom interface for the really wacky
stuff can be built for a few $. I think Jameco still sells prototype boards
for the ISA bus.
Francois
PS: I know this comes up regularly but... I'm changing ISPs What is the best
way to deal with the address change?
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From: Wirehead Prime <wirehead(a)retrocomputing.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 6:45 PM
Subject: Creative Retrocomputing Use for 386s and 486s
>
>WIREHEAD'S CRAZY THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
>
>Using old 386 and 486 computers and their parallel ports to replace
>missing peripherals from true retrocomputing systems. Hmmm...
>
>I wonder if a 386, for example, with a properly programmed parallel port
>could emulate...say...a disk drive with a particular interface that you
>can't find anymore.
>
>Interesting thought?
>
>Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
>
At 01:51 4/12/98 -0500, Doug of Yowza wrote:
>This was the only hit I got when looking for information about a portable
>called the "Agilis System". Does anybody know if this system was actually
>produced -- I can't find anything about it beyond the BYTE article (Aug
>1989).
If we're talking about the thing that was a bunch of wedge-shaped pieces
that latched together, there were prototypes -- and I saw one -- but there
were no production computers AFAIK.
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Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
< I seem to remember early Ethernet interface VAX quad cards
< being around 1.5Mbps... not sure if it was think ether, vampire
< tap stuff... This would have been before ethernet was turned
< into a 'standard.' One guy I know has one of these hanging
< from his wall along with some physical core for a PDP 11/44. I
< was too young to have used to implemented this stuff, so I
< can't claim to have actually _used_ such hardware.
802.. eithernet was always 10mbit/s. The 1.5mhz stuff was arcnet. They
are similar in that they are both bus topology using CSMA/CD arbitration.
Eithernet was a colaboration of Digital Eguipment corp, Intel and Xerox
and was in the '70s called DIX eithernet.
Allison
This is NOT a private matter. I think it is my duty to warn others that there
is a conman around.
Regards
enrico
Russ Blakeman wrote:
> Even though you live in the UK you're obviously not British, otherwise one small crack
> at the buy would have been enough and you would have learned by your mistake. Isn't
> this babbling enough already? Even if you got screwed, be a man and fac the fact that
> from now on you need to be more careful. Drop the nasties and get onto enjoying your
> computers.
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