Just another reminder that many email programs have killfiles and mail
filters. Every time there is a spate of off-topic flaming or otherwise
unnecessary verbage in this list, my list of mail filters grows a little
longer. I now get almost no messages with profanity. It's also
possible to filter out any individual who goes over the line in your
estimation.
I think this preferable to having additional "private lists". Of
course, individuals can have correspondence with whomever they
wish at any time, using personal mailing lists.
Dave
I'm only going to say this once. I will make no replies to this post
outside of private E-mail, and I will accept no arguments from those
involved in the current flame-war that even HINT at attempted justification
for their cluttering of the list.
I have changed receipt of CLASSICCMP to 'ack' (non-digest) on my end so
that I may easily killfile/filter the entire childish flame-war polluting
this list, which the perpetrators of seem unwilling to take to private
E-mail as should have happened when the thing first lit up.
I am tired of reading about who's right, who's wrong, who's a con-artist
and who's not, and who's doing what to whom and for how much. I am here for
one purpose; to share knowledge of old hardware and software, specifically
DECish stuff. Others, I'm going to assume, are here for the purpose of
sharing knowledge of the systems they have interest in.
I do not believe that anyone is here to share a flame-war. If the
flame-war traffic continues in the form of list postings, I will begin
filtering by author rather than by subject thread. This could cause me to
miss something I value, or to fail to respond to a question that I could
answer, but at this point I feel that risk is justified.
Read my typing. TAKE YOUR STUPID FLAME-WAR TO E-MAIL! PLEASE!
Thank you.
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Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272)
(Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net)
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Folks,
I'm still digesting all the responces from Allison, Tony, and
Pete... but I wanted to thank you guys for satiating my
curiosity. I'm clueless, but not thankless. :-)
--jmg
Sorry, but this has been bugging me for quite some time. In Star Trek, they
use "Isolinear" based memory circuts to store information in both the short
and long term. So, from the looks of it, it's some kind of crystal, and can
transmit it's data very quickly, and with no moving parts, so I'm guessing
that it's similiar to today's RAM. Now, for the hard part: It can hold
entire encyclopedia's in tiny amounts. In one episiode, they had nanites,
little robot-bugs that could hold "gigabytes of information," and were
microscopic. Furthermore, in some episodes, they find Chodak and T'Kon
ruins, between 900,000 to 700,000 years old, with half or more of the data
intact.
Was crystaline storage ever attempted like this? Is it possible?
Feasable?
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
>First stop it. Second, if you didn't understand it I believe the comment
>was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
>such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
Kind of right. I was saying that if it was REALLY NEEDED and you couldn't
ignore a row of 5x4 keys or so on your TRS-80, that there's probably someone
who has either a spare case, or a will to trade their keypad-less TRS for
yours.
>There was no offer to supply one and there was no agreement save for you
>trying to instigate one.
Exactly. However, seeing as it will make a fellow collector happy, should I
stumble across the model you mention, I'll tell you, and probably pay for
half or more of the shipping.
>A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest options!) is historically
>valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
>and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
>athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
>1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
Exactly. For instance, I'm getting a A2+ from Jeff Kaneko. At first, I
just knew that I was getting a II+. That was it. Since then, I've been
deligeted to find that it's 64K, has a DA/AD converter, serial cards, a
Pocket Rocket language card, etc. installed. I asked for an Apple II+. I'm
getting one. Sometimes, it's better than what you wanted, sometimes it's
worse, sometimes it's just different.
>If you say you wanted the "first trs80" you should have specified one
>that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
>would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
>(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
>serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
>knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
>introduction is your loss.
As well as your apparant lack of flexability, and poor eMail writing skills.
In any case, let us "BAD PEOPLE" who "don't care if we've got a conman
on our hands" be bad people with a conman on our hands and STOP BITCHING
ABOUT IT!!! Listen, you didn't get what you wanted. You did get what you
asked for. Cord's been on this list a LOT longer than you have. If we
annoy you, then unsubscribe. END OF STORY.
Tim D. Hotze
Available for trade:
I have two computer memories hard disks of unknown origins. they are
available as the processors on them are 6803s and 6522s in sockets and
good for 6800 hacking. These are 1983-85 vintage.
Also available for trade:
Several copies of CP/M-80 2.2 manuals
The programmers CP/M handbook (Osborne Associates, Andy Johnson-laird)
-- next to cpm alteration guide a must have for bios design. --
mix of other DRI cpm manuals (sid, ddt, mac...), *star manauls (Wordstar,
calcstar...), DbaseII and more.
Roughly 33 boxes of 8" disks with CP/M CPMUG and SIGM volumes on them.
This is a major cache of CPM software only exceeded by what on the WC
cdrom.
Two Visual 1050s, local only too heavy to ship monitor safely. These are
CP/M-3 z80 systems with a 6502 doing the video (with graphics) in a pizza
box case, two 5.25 floppies, provisions for hard disk and matching monitor
and keyboard. I may be able to configure one 10mb hard disk. Disks and
docs (including slipcase manuals) for them as well.
Two 8" disks in cases(power supply) sa800s both working, to heavy to
ship safely (opinion).
One CCS 2200 s100 system (CCS cpu, discus controller, CCS floppy
controller, CCS 4 port serial) and manuals. Circa 1980, shippable at
high cost.
Allison
<Enrico has become SUCH a pain, and it seems like most of the traffic of
<late is a result of his insistence not to let this drop. While he may o
<may not have a valid problem, I no longer care, and based on the way he'
<acting I would suspect the problem is on his end. Because of all of thi
<I'd like to propose a rather drastic solution
<
<Shun Him! (in other words ignore him totally)
This to me is a rehash of the dealing across the pond discussion from
some 3-4 months ago. At the time I was one to say that shipping across
the pond was more aggravation than it was worth even if there was profit
in it. This is an example of why.
Doing trades and shipping internationally are still enough of a annoyance
>from my point of view to avoid them. Enrico's further galvanized me on
that. Shipping is never as trivial as addressing a box and hoping it
gets there and the cost is never trivial, at least to me. So when I do
it I feel I should not be at risk doing it.
Allison
I promise that we CAN. I didn't say anything about willing to. However,
should I come across one, you'll be the first to know.
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Enrico Tedeschi <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, April 12, 1998 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Asshole
>Is this a promise?
>
>enrico
>
>Hotze wrote:
> I'm sure that we could find a TRS-80 model 1 CASE
>> somewhere for you.
>
>> Tim D. Hotze
>
>--
>========================================================
>Enrico Tedeschi, 54 Easthill Drive, Brighton BN41 2FD, UK
>Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
>please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
>========================================================
>
>
<> <> I have a NOS SwTPc 6800 MP-A CPU board. This was the first SS-50
<>
<> OK, I give up. What is the worls is NOS?
<
<I think he means "New Old Stock". It's just lingo for something out of
<production, but still in new, never-used condition.
Makes more sense than Network Operating System NOS and 6800 in he same
breath! ;-)
Allison
<From: Enrico Tedeschi <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
<You did not say CAN but you said COULD and that, in my bad understanding
<the English language, is an offer. But I am not going to argue about that
<I gladly accept your kind offer now. Thank you. Hoping to hear from you s
Enrico,
First stop it. Second, if you didn't understand it I believe the comment
was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
There was no offer to supply one and there was no agreement save for you
trying to instigate one.
A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest options!) is historically
valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
If you say you wanted the "first trs80" you should have specified one
that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
introduction is your loss.
Allison
