> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Foust [SMTP:jfoust@threedee.com]
> Sent: March 18, 1998 10:23 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Irreverence to irrelevance
>
> I've always thought a much more sensible approach is the private
> news server. It allows pruning of unruly threads, either by the
> reader (ignoring off-topic subjects) or by a B.D. who trims
> away junk messages. It allows auto-archiving. It doesn't clog
> mail routes and mail boxes. You can read it with any Usenet news
> reader,
> just point to someone else's server. It would be easy to split
> into .hardware, .software, .culture sub-groups.
>
A private news server is a Bad Thing for those of us sitting at
work with a firewall inbetween ourselves and the net. I do not think I
will have much success convincing the firewall admins to allow news
traffic to go through.
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Joachim Thiemann
DSP Coder, Castleton Network Systems
I doubt therefore I might be.
My brother recently purchased a Data General AViiON AV-400 machine at an
auction ($20) It is in a tower case and has 16 MB RAM, 320 MB SCSI hard
drive. He was told by someone at DG that it runs at 20 MHz using a
Motorola 88000 processor.
He was able to get the machine to talk to a PC connected to the com port
and it works and comes up with
DG/UX Bootstrap version 4.3
error, logical partition not found
(or similar wording)
Does this mean:
(a) the SCSI drive is bad
(b) the OS has been deleted
And, if (b) how would he get a version of DG/UX or is there another flavor
of Unix that would run on the machine? There is very little on the net
about these beasts.
Any help appreciated!
- Ron Kneusel
rkneusel(a)mcw.edu
How come MITS used 8800 for the Altair and not 8080?
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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"Max Eskin" <maxeskin(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> No, that's not the problem. I can hear the other end howling away
> on the modem's speaker, but the modem doesn't recognize it for some
> reason. I want this thing to work so I could replace my 1200.
This is a Practical Peripherals 2400SA, right? Little white plastic
modem with a sloped front with modem-blinkenlights?
I think this is the kind of modem that taught me that when they label
one jack "line" and the other jack "phone" they may mean it. When I
got it wrong the modem behaved as above: it would go off-hook and dial
but not connect.
Except that they didn't label the jacks on the modem, you had to look
in the manual if you wanted to know which was which. But there's only
two ways to do it, so put the cable that goes to the wall jack in the
*other* modem jack and see if that makes it work.
-Frank McConnell
Now, back to on-topicness...
for those of you that collect IBM family one machines, i've found an
interesting place with pics, info, and other related links. web over to
WWW.CAN.IBM.COM/HELPWARE/VINTAGE.HTML
david
Kudos to Doug Youza for the Classiccmp FAQ at
www.yowza.com/classiccmp/faq.txt I downloaded this and read it last
night. If you care about this List and have any consideration for
those of us who want to talk vintage computer only, PLEASE READ THE
FAQ, especially section 2.8 (check your personal drivel at the door).
I'm a newcomer to the Classiccmp List and have found that with all the
off topic (I hope I haven't been guilty of this, I've certainly tried
to be on topic) postings the List is somewhat like a cow pasture, you
need to watch where you step. I wade through countless inane, insipid
and irrelevant postings. Why?
Let's keep on topic and keep personalities off the list and private.
Abide by section 2.8 and all of us will benefit.
Marty Mintzell
If there's no FAQ there probably should be one. I'd start one myself but
I'm no where near qualified to do so.
Anyhow, here's something that I'm sure has been asked and probably will
be asked again - What are the top ten hotspots for finding old
equipment?
Thanks - Mike
>MS bashing in a MODERN context is off-topic, yes, but saying
how
>BASIC for the Altair was bloated certainly is the best of both
worlds
>IMHO. But to go even further back, was there any IBM-bashing
before
>the 80's?
a 4KB paper tape Basic for the Altair was bloated? Compared to
what, the 2KB Tiny Basic Dr. Dobbs was pushing? At least you
got paper tape for the Altair, the Dr. Dobbs version you had to
type in from very small print in the magazine. And most
important, Bill's 4K Basic worked, did anyone ever get the IMSAI
paper tape Basic to work? (We gave up and threw ours away after
several futile tries)
IBM bashing before PCs? As an old Univac/CDC type I can swear
(with fingers crossed behind back) we never said a single bad
word about OS/360 or the blazing speed of a 360/20, and we
always envied the S/3ers their MFCU and the cute little 96 col.
cards.
Jack Peacock
Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> wrote:
] To be fair, analog computers can do things digital computers can't. For
] example, a digital computer can only approximate 1.0/3.0 whereas an
] analog box has no trouble with this. Certain ops would also be much
Actually, you've got that backwards. Contained in your message above
is a totally accurate digital representation of 1/3. Oh, there it is
again, at the end of that sentence. It is an analog measure of this
that would lack precision.
OBCC: Is there any such thing as a stored-program analog computer?
I guess Babbage's analytic engine would fit that category, but all
of the other analog "computers" that I've heard of (not many) just
performed some fixed calculation. In my book, a stored program with
sequence-control makes the difference between a computer and a
calculator, manufacturer's labelling notwithstanding.
Bill.
