At 07:07 AM 2/2/98, you wrote:
> If you run it with no ERPOM burner attached, it will probably give you
>an error message stating that the burner is not attached to port X. That
>should give you a clue.
It runs fine, it doesn't go out looking for the burner until you tell it to
actually burn something.
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
> >I found a Channel F on saturday. I'm having some problem with it:
> What is a channel F, some kind of game machine like an Atari? There is
> (was?) a Fairchild game machine in a trift store here. I don't remember
> the name but I don't think it was channel F.
The Fairchild Channel F is an old video games console - I believe it
predates the original Atari VCS by a few months. They're regarded as
pretty neat finds these days.
To the original poster - you may have better luck asking on the classic
videogames mailing list (classic-videogames(a)moose.webworks.ca) or if you
have usenet access, on rec.games.video.classic.
--
Ben Coakley http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu
Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH
Wow, this is global. -Mtn Goats
From: Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org>
<Remember complaints about programmers thinking "all the world's a
<VAX"? Now it's time to work on the ones who think "all the world's a
<VT100."
Gee Frank vt100 was not the only thing in the list.
I suggested those as I know they are common and usable. up here in MA
(DEC country) they are as common as house flies. Actually an adm1 or
three was more likely then.
A terminal emulator on a PC was suggested as if you posted here it's a
fair likelyhood you have a PC. I'd have suggested a MAC and term emulator
but I don't know that space.
Allison
Actually, I think that OS/2 prices'll drop soon. As for Linux, there are
several "minimal distrobutions" avaible. One is called "Mini-Linux" which
includes X-Windows, several games, a word processor, etc. as well as full
Linux support, and runs under MS-DOS FAT 16 or FAT 32, as well as OS/2's
system, no repartitioning necessary. It also is in 4 .zip files, each under
1.44MB for diskettes. Another is called "Monkey", which includes Navigator,
X-Windows, all kinds of stuff, and once again, runs without a partition.
Each take up no more than 30MB. I haven't gotten either working. If anyone
can help me.... anyway, they're both first class operating systems.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk <Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 8:43 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Development, round II
>> > >BTW What is Warp? Is it the OS/2 windowing system? If so, why would
I
>> > >want to use it at all, let alone on a 286? ;-)
>> >
>> > Warp is OS/2v3. You couldn't use it on a 286, but if you had, say, a
>> > 486/33 -- do pardon me for mentioning a nine-year-old part -- it would
>> > begin to be worth playing with. My copy of Warp is still very much to
>> > hand, and I think anyone who can scrounge up an appropriate computer
should
>> > run it (for a while) if they have the opportunity, because it's a real
>> > education.
>>
>> Runs just peachy on my old 386/25. Faster than Windows 3.1 did, not
>> that that's a compliment. I will admit that I prefer it, though of
>> course all of my high-end machines run Linux.
>
>I seem to be reading a lot of good things about OS/2 here apart from the
>price. Since it looks as though I may have found a source of decent
>hard disk drives for my Compaq LTE Lite 20 machines I shall seriously
>consider OS/2 for one of them. The other one, of course, will run
>either Linux or Free BSD - Linux seems to have the vote so far.
>
>Thankyou everyone.
>
>Philip.
>
> > >I don't know of any *real* military surplus stores around SF anymore;
> > >though you'd think there would be some, what with Mare Island Naval
> > >ShipYard, Treasure Island, Alameda (Nuclear Wessels!), The Presidio,
etc.
I know. The Nuclear Wessels were hard to find. Actually, back to the
off-topic topic, there *might* be another wave of stuff, depending on how
many new gadgets various govenrment branches can make, and what we end up
doing with Iraq. (Albright's coming here tommorow.)
> > >There are a few electronics surplus stores around, especially down in
the
> > >(silicon) valley.
Wha? (That seems strange to me)
> As far as military surplus electronics goes, the end-all and be-all will
> always be Fair Radio Sales of Lima, OH. They're even on the web now:
> http://alpha.wcoil.com/~fairadio/
>
>Yeah, but they're still a rip-off. Their prices were high in the
>late 70's when I used to get their catalog, and they're high now.
Of course they are. I mean, as has been pointed out, they can make a profit
out of it. And, people GIVE them the money. I'm betting that many of the
people buying the stuff haven't even heard of Hamfests.
Also, on Classifieds 2000, they've got UNREASONABLE prices on classics
under "Old Computers." I mean, I got a II+ form Jeff Kaneko for $10, and I
saw several advertised, as "Real Rare Classics" for 3 digit figures. And,
if people can make money that way....
Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> wrote:
>OK, I'll build a web site this weekend that describes the Kansas-city
>and Tarbell standards. Will this be useful?
Yes, that would be great. I haven't gotten around to digging through
my old Kilobauds yet. Which other formats should I research?
I remember CUTS, but someone else mentioned 88-ACR and I'd never
heard of that. I'm sure Bell 103 is quite simple. Then there's
all the other cassette formats: CBM PET, VIC-20, C-64, Sinclair, etc.
>If you wanted to make some digitized fragments available, I'd gladly
>make some guesses as to the format.
You can still recognize them "by ear"? :-)
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
> > >BTW What is Warp? Is it the OS/2 windowing system? If so, why would I
> > >want to use it at all, let alone on a 286? ;-)
> >
> > Warp is OS/2v3. You couldn't use it on a 286, but if you had, say, a
> > 486/33 -- do pardon me for mentioning a nine-year-old part -- it would
> > begin to be worth playing with. My copy of Warp is still very much to
> > hand, and I think anyone who can scrounge up an appropriate computer should
> > run it (for a while) if they have the opportunity, because it's a real
> > education.
>
> Runs just peachy on my old 386/25. Faster than Windows 3.1 did, not
> that that's a compliment. I will admit that I prefer it, though of
> course all of my high-end machines run Linux.
I seem to be reading a lot of good things about OS/2 here apart from the
price. Since it looks as though I may have found a source of decent
hard disk drives for my Compaq LTE Lite 20 machines I shall seriously
consider OS/2 for one of them. The other one, of course, will run
either Linux or Free BSD - Linux seems to have the vote so far.
Thankyou everyone.
Philip.
At 01:21 AM 1/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I don't know of any *real* military surplus stores around SF anymore;
>though you'd think there would be some, what with Mare Island Naval
>ShipYard, Treasure Island, Alameda (Nuclear Wessels!), The Presidio, etc.
>
>There are a few electronics surplus stores around, especially down in the
>(silicon) valley.
I wasn't into computers at the time (I was 6 or 7) But my father used to
take me on Dumpster Safaris at Charleston Naval Base, where he worked
(civilian). Man, they used to throw out all sorts of stuff, some of it just
had a few scratches on it. I remember seeing oscilloscopes, radio gear,
terminals, tools, office furniture, you could live in one of those
dumpsters (Hey, I was 6. I didn't have great expectations.) My big thing
back then was swapping wires on connections, juicing it up, and see what
explodes. Now I'm all grown up! :)
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
I think this RD54 may have died. It DID have the spin-up disease, (Wouldn't
spin up), but this was just a bad case of stiction. I spun the disk and it worked.
Now, I try to format the disk (test 70 on uVAX 2000) and it acts funny.
Before, it would only recognise as unit 1. It would fail
the RdMbb step, format would be OK, and the Checkpass would take eternity.
(I let it run overnight, it completed 3 dots.)
I set it to unit 0, same trick but the RdMbb is OK.
Jumper problem?
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I came across a program yesterday called GRiDROM.EXE. Apparently, it was
used to drive an EPROM Programmer via the GRiDCase 3's serial port. My only
question now is this:
Would this most likley be a proprietary EPROM Burner or could I use any
model, as long as it talked through the serial port?
I know nothing of EPROM Programmers, so be gentle. :)
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
