test-drb November 1998

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by roblwill＠usaor.net

> > I just pulled mine from storage over the weekend and discovered that I had > left the memory switch on several years ago when I put it up. Now it won't > boot even under AC. I guess I need to replace the backup battery - anyone > have any info on this? > You shouldn't need a new battery - I think it was NiCd. You'll have to do a cold start. Make sure the memory switch is on, then hold down <alt>, <label>, <ctrl>, and <esc> down while pressing the power button. This should make it go. When I tried this on mine, I got this message after it accessed the disk drive: Uncoop System Load: Disk Error. Retry (Y/N)? Hit <N> The 600 will turn off. Turn it back on using the <power> button. You will get a message: Unable to restart, critical system data damaged. Hit any key to reinitialize system. Hit a key, and MS-WORKS 1.20 will come up Now I have a question: When I "cold start" it, and it accesses the disk drive, could it possibly be booted from a disk?? -Jason *********************************************** * Jason Willgruber * * (roblwill(a)usaor.net) * * * * http://members.tripod.com/general_1 * * ICQ#-1730318 * * /0\/0\ * * > Long Live the 5170! * * \___/ * ************************************************

25 years, 8 months

KIM envy

by dogas＠leading.net

From: Hans Franke <franke(a)sbs.de> >A Rockwell variant ? Please tell me more. I may be wrong here... I think Rockwell did a *cased* KIM-1 for NRI or some other such school.... Along with their AIM 65... Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

25 years, 8 months

A couple of new finds and Next question

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Got a promo video copy of the Commodore Amiga rollout at the Comdex Nov '87 called AMIGA MAKE IT POSSIBLE. It features a rock band singing about the Amiga (looks like Microsoft got it's Stone idea from ?) and shows off the graphic's of the Amiga. Also got another training tape showing how to install the AMLINK for the Amiga. Awhile back picked up a TRS-80 Pocket computer with the Printer Cassette Interface. Now the Next question is does anyone no how to create a boot diskette for the Next ? I have one that will not finish the system file load and would like to boot it from the floppy if possible. I do have another working station to use for creating the boot disk. Any help on this would be great Thanks. John

25 years, 8 months

Any spots in Ft. Lauderdale

by jruschme＠exit109.com

Okay, at the risk of asking people to give up their secrets... I just found out that we've got to fly down to Ft. Lauderdale, FL for a couple of days. Any interesting spots there for classic pickings? <<<John>>>

25 years, 8 months

KIM envy

by franke＠sbs.de

> But, might I suggest a visceral replacement: the HP-5036A is a single > board 8085 system, and it is COOLNESS exemplified. > a display, keyboard, output leds, and (even a) speaker, and input switches > are periphs that are usable through ported i/o, digital test points > everywhere, several programs in rom, a very usalbe monitor for doing machine > code (is that oxymoronic?) Overall, a very hands on system that encourages > play and they can still be found and sometimes reasonably ( I think one went > on ePay for $80 ). .. oh yeah, the board is beautiful. I WANT IT - AND I WANT IT NOW (c)Freddy M. > Still, if anyone runs across a batch of KIMS ( especially a Rockwell > variant... ) please keep me in mind. ;) A Rockwell variant ? Please tell me more. Gruss Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

25 years, 8 months

Classics made the WSJ Again

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I'd like to read the article. Thanks for mentioning it. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Classics made the WSJ Again Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 11/5/98 7:28 AM Hello, all: Last Friday's Wall Street Journal (NY Edition) had a front-page article about collecting classic computers. Our very own Kip Crosby, Jim Willing, and the VCF were mentioned. If anyone wants the article, I'll scan it and post it to my Web site tonight, Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========> ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Nov05.072807.1767.75571; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:28:08 -0500 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA20369; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:26:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA51008 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:25:58 -0800 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.137] (may be forged)) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA17 580 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:25:58 -0800 Received: from mainoffice - 153.35.217.115 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:25:55 -0800 Message-Id: <000a01be08b6$c355c200$73d92399@mainoffice> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:20:14 -0500 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Richard A. Cini, Jr." <rcini(a)email.msn.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Classics made the WSJ Again X-To: "ClassCompList" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

25 years, 8 months

KIM envy

by dogas＠leading.net

Like probably everyone else that *dosen't* have a KIM-1, I'm finally accepting that fact that I possibly never will. I know.... it still hurts. ( I know, I need a life... ) But, might I suggest a visceral replacement: the HP-5036A is a single board 8085 system, and it is COOLNESS exemplified. a display, keyboard, output leds, and (even a) speaker, and input switches are periphs that are usable through ported i/o, digital test points everywhere, several programs in rom, a very usalbe monitor for doing machine code (is that oxymoronic?) Overall, a very hands on system that encourages play and they can still be found and sometimes reasonably ( I think one went on ePay for $80 ). .. oh yeah, the board is beautiful. Anyone ever hear of any expansion options for this system using the edge connectors? Still, if anyone runs across a batch of KIMS ( especially a Rockwell variant... ) please keep me in mind. ;) Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

25 years, 8 months

MOS 6530's (Was: KIM-1 (Was: Apple I clone (was Apple I Computer

by franke＠sbs.de

>> Ah ja. The hardest to find parts today are the 6530-x >> chips, a multi fonction chip with 1 K mask programmable >> ROM, mask programmable chip select, I/O lines, timers >> and 64 Bytes of RAM. They are only available by scraping >> a real KIM. The nearest replacement is the 6532, witch >> utilizes I/O, Timer and 128 Bytes RAM. The I/O is almost >> the same - just two pins have to be shortened, but the >> chip select is fixed and not equal to none of the 6530-x. > There was one version of one of the CBM disk drives (I think it was the > 8252LP) where a 6530 was replaced by a daughtboard containing (I think) > an 6532 + a ROM + TTL glue. I don't know how universal that solution is, > but I guess something could be worked out. Jep, thats exactly the soulution I was suggesting. Ans speaking of 6530s, I always wanted to know what versions have existed/are existing, and where they have been used. 6530-002 KIM 1 KIM (Keyboard Input Monitor) 6530-003 KIM 1 Autio tape extention for KIM 6530-004 JOLT (I just don't remember the software name) ??? Gruss Hans -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

25 years, 8 months

Now quite OT: Re: ePay

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 03:18 PM 10/26/98 -0500, you wrote: >> I.e., you could post "I just bought one at a thrift for $12.50" when >> the bidding for an Atari 1200xl goes over $100... > >Why would they want to do that? It would be the same as shooting >themselves in the foot. Not to mention which, it's totally irrelevant. If I was selling a Ferrari for $10K, and you came along and told the bidder that you had just bought one for $100, would that matter? What would be relevant is how much you would sell your 1200XL or Ferrari for. If it's not for sale, what you paid for it, or even the fact that another exists, is meaningless. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

25 years, 8 months

Classics made the WSJ Again

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: Last Friday's Wall Street Journal (NY Edition) had a front-page article about collecting classic computers. Our very own Kip Crosby, Jim Willing, and the VCF were mentioned. If anyone wants the article, I'll scan it and post it to my Web site tonight, Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin!/CW7 - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking - Collector of "classic" computers <========= reply separator ==========>

25 years, 8 months

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