At 10:31 PM 11/16/98 -0800, Sellam wrote:
>
>If you want, I can play dupe and start negotiating with them independent
>from your negotiations. I'll throw a low-ball offer at them to make your
>offer seem reasonable.
If they're smart enough to toy with David, then they'll believe they've got
something valuable because now *two* people are asking about it, and they'll
play you against each other, or arbitrarily raise the price, or both. :-)
Better yet, convince them that they should sell them on eBay.
- John
>Anyway, next task is how to get past the user name and password problem.
>There recently was a discussion here regarding breaking into an MVII
>running VMS. (Watch for a future msg regarding my unsuccessful attempt at
>running up my MVII this morning)
>
>Can anybody describe a way to do this under RSX-11M+ v3.0? Of course, there
>*may* be something about this in my RSX-11M manuals but please suggest
>about which volume!
>I'm using this PeeCee as a terminal. The simple communications program I
>use can capture all text sent from/to the uPDP. After I type-in the time
>and date the remains of a rather long script is run and the '>' prompt is
>all I get after the dust settles. No users are logged-in and I believe MCR
>is the CLI running.
If you're at the MCR prompt at this point, very likely you've got a
[200,200] UIC. Switch to a priv'd UIC (i.e. SET /UIC=[1,1]), do
a RUN $ACNT, and use the menu options to set the password for the
SYSTEM account to whatever you want.
See chapter 2 of the _System Management Guide_ for more details.
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Hi Christian,
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> From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: My MVII is not working
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 10:28 AM
>
> Exactly how does MicroVMS v4.7 compare to VMS v5.4 of which I have most
> manuals for?
I have some 5.4 tapes here, if you really need them. (TK50)
cheers,
emanuel
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 17 November 1998 14:45
Subject: Re: Newbie's got a dead 386
>Or, of course, 'Failed UniBus Address Register' :-)
LOL. I'd forgotten about that, I read about it somewhere, and was amazed it
got past the marketdroids at digital.
I'm not sure if I own a Unibus system. Were 8530's Unibus and BI?
>There's also SNAFU (Situation Normal, All Fouled Up).
I've usually heard it expressed with a less polite f-word.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Marks College
Port Pirie South Australia.
My ICQ# is 1970476
Ph. 61-411-623-978 (Mobile)
61-8-8633-0619 (Home)
61-8-8633-8834 (Work-Direct)
61-8-8633-0104 (Fax)
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 18 November 1998 14:02
Subject: Re: Newbie's got a dead 386
>> >Or, of course, 'Failed UniBus Address Register' :-)
>Rumour has that the designers were getting back at the marketroids for
>preventing the sign-extend mnemonic on the PDP11 being SEX....
I wouldn't be surprised....
>Yep, sure, but I tend to keep such words for when they're needed - like
>when I've dropped a PDP11 on my foot, or an EHT supply has decided that
>my fingertip makes a handy ground point ;-)
For PDP11 read RA81, same story. I had steelcapped boots on which saved
my toes from being crushed, nice bruise on the instep though.
Have been bitten by eht in tv's a few times as well.
Got caught between an antenna cable with a grounded shield and a "hot"
chassis tv set once too. Effect is about half mains voltage.
Bearing in mind that our mains is 240vac, it lights you up pretty well.
footnote: My then boss had "borrowed" the isolation transformer it was
plugged in to while I was working on it, without telling me. (!)
I was very unimpressed and made some fairly strong remarks about
his parenthood, sexual habits, intellectual capacity and the likely
consequences of
any similar occurrence in the future. Only sweetener was when I fell over
(yes it was that
big a hit) I pulled the set off the bench and busted the tube, so he had to
buy the customer
another one.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Marks College
Port Pirie South Australia.
My ICQ# is 1970476
Ph. 61-411-623-978 (Mobile)
61-8-8633-0619 (Home)
61-8-8633-8834 (Work-Direct)
61-8-8633-0104 (Fax)
Has any of the DEC folks here had time to think about the questions I had
regarding my posting per the subject line above? There were a couple of
important ones regarding RSX-11M+ and the Syquest drive plus others.
Should I post it again? I'd like to keep moving on this project.
Thanks, Chris
-- --
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Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
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If y'all need 5.25" disks or Syquest Carts...
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< Well, the negative things folks have said about RD53's are definitely tr
< It would not spinup properly. Seemed to have a speed control problem as
Classic RD53 spin down disease. the problem is the head positioner is
stuck (literally!) to a rubber bumper.
The fix, open the HDA, put power to it and when the platters spin up
and the head lock unlocks give the head a push to the outer edge of the
platter. If it makes noises and does a seek th the outer track your up
and you can put the cover back on. The problem will occur avain when
powered down. Seems there is a rubber bumper in the voice coil positioner
that gets gooey and the head sticks. I have two I've had to remove that
bumper from (not for the timid).
< 2.. <more than a minute wait here>
< ?54 RETRY
Of course the boot device is not up so the boot fails.
< The inside of the TK50 is rather dusty and dirty. I plan to take it out
< get as much dust and junk out of it as possible before I put in a tape (
< got the DEC MVII Diagnostic tape, MicroVMS 4.2 and a DECUS tape with a
< bunch of utilities :) ). How critical is it to have a very clean drive?
< Seems the opening on the front of the drive with no tape inserted allow
< too much junk to wander into it.
vacuum it out! FYI: check the fans, that box should have all of them
going(ba23 two on the side, ba123 three on the bottom.).
< Anybody have an RD54 or equivalent they're willing to sell me?
RD54 is a MAXTOR 2190 series that should help as they were used in other
stuff.
Allison
Depending on the SCSI board. Most of them you can boot from.
Dan
>Here's a question. I know there used to be SCSI boards for microvax IIs,
>can you boot from those? If so, wouldn't it be better in the long run to
>go SCSI, so you can just go out and buy a new disk instead of dealing with
>10-20 year old failure prone disks? I guess that brings up a question
that's
>been slowly growing to me.
>
>Is it more important to keep a classic running, or to keep it original? If
for
>example I get my hands on a VAX 8350, is it preferable to keep the big old
>disks that go with it, even though I KNOW they are way over MTBF already
>(not to mention the space and power requirements) or to get ahold of the
scsi
>card for it and put a pair of half-gig SCSI disks from a surplus house in a
>SCSI box and run the machine from those?
>
>I know there's no "right" answer, but I'm curious what folk think.
>--
>Jim Strickland
>jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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I agree on the prices but I find that over 50% of the RD53's I get in are
bad and about 20% of the RD54's are bad.
I get calls several times a week from dealers looking for RD5X drives. Just
as soon as ther are formatted, RSX bad and a full disk copy/ verify is run
on them I have them sold.
The rediculous thing is none of the dealers try to upgrade their customers
to SCSI. I have upgraded virtually all of my end users. I offer them the
choice ofSCSI and ESDI (I have a lot of ESDI's avail.) and they always go
SCSI even though it is over 5 times the cost. ( End user - commercial)
Dan
>>< Well, I found a place that supposedly is still selling RD54s, plus a ton
>>< other stuff for old DEC machines. (they want $200 for an RD54).
>>
>>they are out of their minds! that price would have been considered
>>too high 5 years ago.
>>
>>RD54 is a MFM drive, MAXTOR 2190 series. No majik.
>>
>>Allison
>
>I dunno, $150-200 seems to be the norm with the dealers. What gets me is I
>just checked the page out, and they want $250 for a RD53!!! Personally I'm
>happier now that I'm running on ESDI drives, as I've been able to find
>several spares cheap.
>
>I'm still depressed that I missed saving a case of brand new RD54's from
>being recycled by my local recycler, I missed them by about two days :^(
>
> Zane
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