test-drb October 1998

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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I have the drive but no adaptor and when i took mine apart, it appears to be just a standard seagate mfm type drive, i think mine was an st-225. In a message dated 10/6/98 11:00:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time, fauradon(a)pclink.com writes: > It's a Host adapter for the SIDER hard drive. I believ it is SCSI type. I > have the manual and software if you ever get your hands on a sider Hard > drive. > Francois

25 years, 9 months

Unknown Apple II Card

by fauradon＠pclink.com

You might be able to use any 10Mb (or so) external SCSI drive, I'm not sure about that though. I can get the connector pinout from mine, I haven't taken it apart yet so I don't know what Hard drive it takes. I could chek if nobody else has the answer ready. Experts please? Francois ------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the desperately in need of update Sanctuary at: http://www.pclink.com/fauradon -----Original Message----- From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Unknown Apple II Card Ok, guess I'll have to look for a SIDER if that's what this is. Wish I'd know that when I was at the thrift where I picked it up. Unfortunately they recently threw everything out and became a $0.99 store. Shame because they still had a bunch of computer stuff I wanted to pick up. On 6 Oct 98, at 23:01, Francois wrote: > It's a Host adapter for the SIDER hard drive. I believ it is SCSI type. I > have the manual and software if you ever get your hands on a sider Hard > drive. Francois ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

25 years, 9 months

Vaporware (and not) from '83 CES

by franke＠sbs.de

> - Panasonic JR-200 (I think this may exist) Exists, I have one. > - Sanyo PCH20/PHC25 (Z80, 4K/16K, $99/$199) Exists (at least acording to some web sites. > - STM Pied Piper (CP/M portable, 64K, $1295) Never heared of. > - TI 99/2 (Supposedly $100, including 4.2K RAM) Never heared of. > - TI CC-40 (Compact Computer 40, laptop like Epson HX-20, 4 AA cells, 31 > character LCD display, $249) Exists - I miss it in my collection, but have seen several > - Unisonic Futura 8300 (Z80, 2K, Sinclair BASIC, $90) I have one, originaly boxed, althrough the box name is different (Your Computer). But almost any Exemplar I know has a different name. > - Video Technology VZ200 (Z80, 4K, MS BASIC, $99) I own two of them. They have been somewhat popular for a very short time. > By the way, has anyone actually seen an TI 99/4 (not 4a)? Shure, have one, barebone :( Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

25 years, 9 months

Top 10 sins of a computer scrapper

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa. I have sinned. I am retireing after 10 yrs of reselling computer, test and laboratory equipment. It was with interest and dismay that I read the top 10 Holy Grails and the following threads. After ballooning up to 16,000 sq. Ft of warehouse my partner insisted on scrapping large parts of the inventory. I was an accumulator, he was a scrapper. Needless to say we didn't last. Unfortunitely during that time we destroyed a lot of older computers including a Xerox Alto, I recognized it later on Revenge of the Nerds several Xerox Stars, I have some of the factory software left and maybe a mouse. a Magnolia Jaquard 100 Word Processor Used the 4004 computer chip Unknown SBC with an 8008 chip, I saved the chip (Std bus I believe) 3 IBM 5100s Scores of early Intel development systems including several Prompt-48 and MCS-8, we bought large lots from Intel Chameleon, I may have a manual or two. Litton 1251, Dual drum memory 400K, punch tape programmed PDP-8 Several Teraks Cincinatti Millichron 2000, I may have a programming card left I'm sure some of the big iron counts but I didn't know that field well. OK so this is more than 10. Where were you guys 4 years ago? I'm really sorry for my part.It is really hard to figure out what is collectable, particularly if you don't recognize it. I felt really bad when I finally recognized that that funny looking Drive with Xerox on it. Is there any interest in a DEC VAX 730, a General Automation Zebra 5500 (a Pick machine), DEC RA60 & RA81s, Tektronix 4113, NCR 1000. These need to go very soon. I enjoy the list. Thanks a lot. Paxton

25 years, 9 months

Smoke Signal Broadcasting FS

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have gotten lots of requests for details on this system. So I am posting a list of Chieftain systems and their board count that I have for sale. I am open to all offers, of course I am looking for the best one. Please reply to whoagiii(a)aol.com not to the list. I and the equipment are in Portland, Oregon. Smoke Signal Broadcasting System 1) Chieftain with a wood top. with 2 5 1/4" FHFD and the following boards LMB-1A 9 slot Backplane with 8 slots IO 6809 CPU OS9-SCB69 CIMIX 64K Static Ram M512X populated with 128K 2X M32-X 1 fully populated, the other 6 of 8 banks full M16-X Fully populated DCB 4A Drive Controller 4 2 port serial cards 2) Dual 8" DSDD with a wood top. Qumetrack 242s, attaches to #1 3) Chieftain with wood top with a 5 1/4" FH MFM Hard Drive with an attached Omti 20C Controller LMB-1A 9 slot Backplane with 8 slots IO CPU 50719, 68B09, OS9 SCB-69 M512X with 128K 2X CIMIX 64K Static Ram M16-X Fully populated M32-X Fully populated HDA-P/STA-A/HDA-S 4X 2 port Serial Cards It is interesting that the unit with the hard drive has no floppy. There is wiring that leads me to believe that one power switch turned on all three units at the same time. This is cut now. Paxton

25 years, 9 months

Cromemco FS

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have gotten lots of requests for details on the systems. So I am posting a list of Cromemco systems and boards that I have FS. I am open to all offers, of course I am looking for the best one. Please reply to whoagiii(a)aol.com not to the list. Portland, Oregon 97214 is home. Cromemco C 10 Computer with evternal 5 1/4" Floppy and Kbd I think this system was the controller for the Computer following System 2 in a dual height wood cabinet 30"X24"X36" with a 5 1/4 FHFD and the following cards : UUX 68020 CPU wi 68881 - 16 mhz 64FDC PRI STDC SFLSH 2 2048 MSU MCU SVID SDMB 1024 KTD SDCM SDMA The following software in 6 boxes of 5 1/4 disks containing Fortran IV, Ptr., Com, WP, Proprint, Procall, backup and Data and 68000 Fortran 77. Most of the disks are copies and not originals. The following Books a Binder of Program data, Cromix-plus users manual, Intro to C+, Baseline Graphics Inst., S Series Board Family Inst., SDD Camera Digitizer Board Manual, SDCM Color Monitor Board Manual, C-% Tech Reference, Cromix+ Programming, 68020 Cromix Admin. This system may not be complete. The boards appear to be out of order and the cables pulled off the cards. All of the cables may not be there. System 3 with 2 8" 1/2 Ht Floppys and a 5 1/4" hard drive (I would have to remove it to identify it) and the following cards 4X 256KZ Memory DPU 68000/8 Octart 16FDC WDI-II System 1, CS-1H, 6/13/83, 8 Slot MF with the following cards WDI-II 4X 256K Memory DPU Z80 & 68000/8 Octart 16FDC This Octart brake3out cable is homemade. It breaks out to 8 serial connectors mounted on a wood board. One of the cables has been damaged by it being ripped out of its plug. Extra Cards and Parts, please bid each. 3X 64KZ-I 2X 256KTP ZPU ZCPU SCC 64FDC TU-ART Quadart attached to a IOP Keyboard All are untested. After reading the threads about starting old systems I decided to sell them as-is untested. Thank you, Paxton

25 years, 9 months

Top 10 Holy Grails of Classic Microcomputer Collecting

by scott＠isd.canberra.edu.au

At 19:38 6/10/98 -0700, Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net> wrote: >At 08:24 PM 10/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >>I've always wanted to know which machines have only a single instance >>represented on this list. > >If I've got any that aren't duplicated, I'd guess them to be: > >NEC PC-8201 (not the PC-8201A) [Snip] What is the difference between the PC-8201 and the PC-8201A? I've got two PC-8201As, and what *seems* to be an PC-8201. It's a different, bronze, colour and has "NEC PC-8201" printed on the top left-hand corner. However, the silver sticker on the bottom of the computer says it is a PC-8201A. How can I tell for sure which I have? Regards, | Scott McLauchlan |E-Mail: scott(a)cts.canberra.edu.au | | Network Services Team |Phone : +61 2 6201 5544 (Ext.5544)| | Client Services Division |Post : University of Canberra, | | University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA | ACT, 2601, AUSTRALIA. |

25 years, 9 months

Vaporware (and not) from '83 CES

by scott＠isd.canberra.edu.au

At 17:07 6/10/98 -0700, Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com> wrote: >New computers announced at the 1983 CES: > >Vaporware? Please respond if you KNOW any of these exist for SURE. > [Snip] >- Video Technology VZ200 (Z80, 4K, MS BASIC, $99) Not only do these exist, they were very popular in Australia in the mid-80s. They were marketed as the Dick Smith VZ-200 (Dick Smith is *the* major electronics retailer in Australia). Not only that, but there was also a VZ-300 (also known as the Video Technology Laser 310). For details, please see the following URLs: http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~alexios/MACHINE-ROOM/Video,Technology_Laser_200. html http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~alexios/MACHINE-ROOM/Dick,Smith,Electronics_VZ-2 00.html http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~alexios/MACHINE-ROOM/Dick,Smith,Electronics_VZ-3 00.html http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~alexios/MACHINE-ROOM/Video,Technology_Laser_310. html >By the way, has anyone actually seen an TI 99/4 (not 4a)? Yes, I've got one, Unfortunatly I have no power supply for it. Not only that, but I don't know what the power supply pinout is, nor where I could get a plug to suit the strange power supply socket (it's just like the one for the TI-99/4a, except one of the pins is bigger, so a TI-99/4a socket won't fit). For details on the TI-99/4, see http://99er.interspeed.net/994.html Regards, | Scott McLauchlan |E-Mail: scott(a)cts.canberra.edu.au | | Network Services Team |Phone : +61 2 6201 5544 (Ext.5544)| | Client Services Division |Post : University of Canberra, | | University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA | ACT, 2601, AUSTRALIA. |

25 years, 9 months

Unknown Apple II Card

by fauradon＠pclink.com

It's a Host adapter for the SIDER hard drive. I believ it is SCSI type. I have the manual and software if you ever get your hands on a sider Hard drive. Francois ------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the desperately in need of update Sanctuary at: http://www.pclink.com/fauradon -----Original Message----- From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 6:40 PM Subject: Unknown Apple II Card I have an unknown interface card for the Apple ][. At least I think it is for a II. It has a 50 pin connector down the front of the card. "REV E" and "SCI Typ. 1A" dated "Jan 24 '85" printed on the card. An EPROM with 8443EPP AM2732ADC Copyright 1983 AMD printed on it. That's all I can find printed on the card. Any ideas? For those who can handle images, there are a couple at: http://www.trailingedge.com/~dlw/comp/images/acard1.jpg http://www.trailingedge.com/~dlw/comp/images/acard2.jpg Not the best pictures but I have the camera here right now and may take some closeups of the board and chips. Thanks. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

25 years, 9 months

North Star Horizon Help

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Nope, no manuals except a copy of the N* DOS manual and a < monitor manual I believe. The system has a CPU board, disk < controller and a 64K RAM board so I'd guess N*DOS should load < fine. Opened it back up but don't see any DIPs near the back. < There are a couple of switchs outside the case which are labeled < for different baud rates for the video and printer port. The dips are on the mother board at the rear of the machine inside. They set up all of the IO charateristics including the sense of pins two and three in the serial connectors. I know of no Horizon that has switches for baud rates, that was a user mod. Allison

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test-drb October 1998