>>> It looks like the vt62 could be equipped with an additional printer
>>> unit. Is this correct?
> I believe the VT62 is somewhat related to the VT52.
The VT62 is a VT52 with inverse video. thats all.
Gruss
H.
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HRK
Today I walked into a thrift store and found a stack of Popular Science,
Popular Mechanics, and others going back to 1974. I got real excited
thinking I would find that had Altair on the cover (does anyone remember
which issue that was ?), but no luck. I did get a October 1977 issue that
covers home computers for $595. In it were pictures and write-ups on the
following:
Commodore PET
Heath H-8 (article says new H-11 uses DEC LSI-1)
Radio Shack model 1
Altair 8800
Single-board 8084 from IMSAI
Southwest Technical's 6800
Sol Terminal Computer
Technical Design Labs Z-80 Xitan
Compucolor
The Digital Group
Cromeco Z-2
Poly 88 from PolyMorphic
Vector Graphic Vector 1+
Challenger System from OSI
EPA 6800 with hexidecimal keyboard
There were many more mentioned in the article, all together I purchased 12
different issues at 7 cents each. Got a few manuals for cpu's, software,
and printers all for 7 cents each. Got three apple IIc power supplies for $1
each along with various commodore power supplies for the same price. As
soon as someone can tell me the right issue I will go back looking for it.
John
> http://www.milan-computer.de/html_gb/produkt.html
The Machine is already in European Shops since half a year.
Last Week they showed the 50 MHz 060 Version at the Atari Messe
in Neuss, Germany. 80 MHz is anounced around december.
This ist not a back from Grave thing - he is still
alive and better than ever.
Gruss
H.
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HRK
Would anyone happen to have sources (and maybe even binaries) for
EDDT or any programs which come on paper tape for the -10? I, um,
er, need to test some code... :-)
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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G'day,
What software for PC-DOS can drive this monster? Whopping 20 megabytes per
tape :)
I'll try Linux ftape too, but in case it fails, I'd like to have an
alternative.
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Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru
> Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>> :: Should I hack my Apple-1 to sub in a 99 GHz Pentium for the 6502?
>> Wash your mouth out with soap! (How about a 65816? :-)
> You mean an Apple-1/GS?
Hmm wouldn't give the 65802 the better replacement ?
Gruss
H.
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Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
>>> thrown in. The NEC and Olivetti versions depended on external modems
>> I have the Olivetti version - an M10, and the PCB certainly has positions
>> for the internal modem components. Now, it would be quite normal for a UK
>> machine not to have the modem (our CCITT tones are different from Bell
>> tones at 300 baud, and there are different approval requirements), so I
>> assumed that the US model had the modem fitted.
> I have never read a report or review of an M-10 with an internal modem.
> And the magazines that covered the Model 100 _did_ review the Olivetti
> and NEC products, but of course those magazines were rather more than
> three moves ago (per Poor Richard, three removes equals one fire), but
> I do recall that they all had the same Kyocera main board with minor
> changes per customer.
Maybe no Magazine did review it, but I own an M10
with internal Modem.
Gruss
H.
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Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
> There's always that issue. I find it analogous to retirement homes in
> this area. People 'buy' a retirment home, townhouse, apartment, etc. for
> a fixed price and then live there. When they die, it belongs to the
> retirement home to sell again. The cycle continues. If you've seen some
> of the homes around here, you know they've been around for a while. Part
> of the charge funds maintenance fees and lawn care (the latter not being
> important for computers). The continuous re-renting of the property
> helps keep the available funds around to maintain everything.
> I'm not saying that the 'organization' fund for maintenance to whoever
> rented the computer, but the concept is similar. The end goal in this
> case is to do what's possible to keep it around for the next person.
I always fear that 'the organisation' will be put before
the mission - in this case profit maximization instead
of preserving the past.
>>But, if we could keep it to a small and more individual to
>>individual base, I'm in.
> Do I hear charters?
??? Maybe I lost the thread here.
>>> Some of the funding can also be used to provide insurance coverage to
>>> members by people who know the value of what's being insured.
>>Thats a very dangerous terrain.
> I do agree with you. Here, in the state of Pennsylvania, insurance of
> any type is heavily regulated. It may not be as bad for other states or
> countries.
Maybe not - Afaik are insurances around the world very heavy
regulated - to keep fraud away and to get enough taxes ...
Another possible aproach might be to cooperate with insurance
companies. Maybe the same way as for old car collections.
At least here in Germany some (smaler) insurance companies
are offering very interesting deals in cooperation with
Verteran associations. One can get an all included insurance
for a USD 200,000 veteran car for less than an minimal
insurance for a actual USD 60,000 Mercedes. It just took
around 15 years of talks to give them the idea how the
collectors handle the cars and whats all this old car
stuff is about. There are now even premium insurances where
they will pay a complete rebuild of the car, even when burned.
Even when a 'new' would be cheaper - and all at an afordable
rate - thats exactly what a collector want: keep HIS car
(computer) not just one of the same kind.
Gruss
H.
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Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
Sam:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Hans Franke wrote:
>> At first, a 'big' collection, like a museum (and I just
>> assume there will be in the future some computer museums
>> at least the size of car collections) will have already
>> more than 95% of your (or mine) collection, counting the
>> CPU's, so they only need 5% for display. The rest will be
>> surplus or spare parts in best case.
>> Second, they will have, for shure, already more computers
>> and accessories than they are able to display. So yours
>> might never be seen again autside the warehouse.
>> Third, (and most important in my eyes) 99% of all of the
>> hard to get software and documentation will never go on
>> display
> But at least it will be preserved for future research, which is important.
or stay for some years until decomposed and ready for
enhancing the vegetables area of your garden (like
the former owner ...)
>> Personal I have not decided what to do with my collection
>> (althrugh I alredy have a last will where several persons
>> are picked to get some parts or to be responsible for the
>> distribution).
> You mean you don't remember signing them over to me when you were
> visiting? Alcohol does that to a brain. (You'd better check your wallet
> too.)
Of course I remember about our deal. As soun as the USD 100,000.00
are on my secret swiss account, you will get the promise of
full and undivided ownership of all my VIC-20 stuff.
>> c) sell them among fellow collectors for their real
>> value. That means for example 100 USD for a C65
>> or a chicklet PET.
> Are we talking eBay dollars or swap meet dollars?
Just talkin about what I belive any old computer
is worth: a nice talk and 1 to 5 USD or maybe 50
to 100 USD for real ohmigodicantbelive finds.
(Just my personal feeling - In fact I pay most
time a lot more :()
Gruss
H.
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HRK
>Has there been any discussion about the eventual fate of our collections
>after we are gone?
Well, some supersymmetric (SUSY) theories of grand unification predict
that protons will eventually decay. Current experiments put the mean life
of the proton at well over 10^40 years, so I'm not too worried myself.
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