test-drb October 1998

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VCF 2.0 t-shirts on sale [ClassicCmp discount!]

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

I have a pile of VCF 2.0 t-shirts that I need to sell. Order now and get a $2 ClassicCmper discount on any shirt. If you order, make sure you tell me you're a ClassicCmper. See www.vintage.org/vcf for graphical depictions. There are still a few VCF 1.0 shirts left over. These are not listed on the page but they're going for $10 each. Buy one so you can say you were there, even if you weren't! (I'll even vouch for you if anyone questions your autheticity :) Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever onward. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 09/21/98]

25 years, 9 months

kits, definitions, prices...

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< > Little-known fact: The Apple 1 wasn't a 6502 machine... it was a 6502 < > 6800 machine. < < That is *very* little-known! Either somebody got sold a 6800 machine wi < an Apple 1 label on it or there needs to be some documentation for this < claim! References? Not a big secret. It's a fact and there is a jumper on the board for it. REASON: At one point MOS Tech was going to make a 6500 that was pin interchangable with the 6800 but moto took them to court. the expectation was they would make one board that could be either 6800 or 6500. Allison

25 years, 9 months

Help: Identify my board

by cfandt＠netsync.net

At 21:35 10/07/98 -0700, George L. Rachor wrote: >Although not a classic Multibus board this board manufactured by Intel and >would fit in a Multibus slot. It does use the power pins from a >Multibus card slot. Beg to differ, George, but the board pictured in the URL given by Alan definitely is not Multibus! Others will also agree here who either used or have Multibus hardware in their collections like myself. I don't even recognize what the thing could possibly be. An Intel OEM controller of some sort? Relatively small quantity of chips so Alan could do like Tony D. or myself would do and trace the circuits and draw a schematic to get a better idea of function. Regards, Chris > >The model number escapes me for a moment but was still being manufactured >in 1994. Could you give us a bit more info from what you recall on this board George? > >========================================================= >George L. Rachor george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com >Beaverton, Oregon http://racsys.rt.rain.com > >On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, oajones wrote: > >> Can someone help identify this board? It has a 8085AH CPU in the A9 >> socket. On the right the board says "Intel (C) 1977 MADE IN USA." On the >> back of the circuit board is etched "PWB1001480-03 REV H." If you want >> to see what the board looks like click on my link below. >> >> http://www.bright.net/~oajones/myboard.jpg >> >> --Alan >> -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/

25 years, 9 months

kits, definitions, prices...

by franke＠sbs.de

> There are a handful of questions that keep getting re-hashed. > Build my SwTPC kit and play with it, or treasure it in pristine form? Ill take the burden. > Is my LSI-11 a micro, or not? Who cares > Are my XT's really classic? Of corse - I could also sell you a secon one - just $$$,$$$.$$ > Should I hack my Apple-1 to sub in a 99 GHz Pentium for the 6502? Geee what a great Idea - just go ahead. > Wanna buy a 1200 baud modem? No, I'm still fine with my 300 coupler SCNR H. (But I get your Idea) -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

25 years, 9 months

Update 2 - Aquarius Data Recorders

by wanderer＠bos.nl

What kind of recorder is this? I have never seen one. Can someone tell me more about it? Thanks, Ed -- The Wanderer | Geloof nooit een politicus! wanderer(a)bos.nl | Europarlementariers: http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer | zakkenvullers en dumpplaats voor Unix Lives! windows95 is rommel! | mislukte politici. '96 GSXR 1100R | See http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer/gates.html for a funny pic. of Gates!

25 years, 9 months

Amusing: January 1993 Sun Remarketing Catalog

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

The other day I was disassembling a Lisa, and inside between the RAM boards there was a copy of the January 1993 Sun Remarketing Catalog. Here are some fun tidbits from the catalog. Anyone care to call Sun and try to order one of these part numbers? Rumor has it that Sun has a whole warehouse full of Lisa stuff that they just aren't motivated to sell. APPLE LISA Originally designed as a versatile business computer, the Lisa is more powerful than ever before. We've added new features that make it better than a Mac Plus... 800K floppy drive, 20 Mb or 40 Mb SCSI hard drive, and MacWorks Plus. LISA CPU OPTIONS - 20Mb SCSI System, $495 100-283 - 40Mb SCSI System, $545 100-481 - Macintosh XL 400K/10Mb, $395 101-140 - Macintosh XL/400K No HD, $295 101-142 - Macintosh XL/800K System, $595 101-181 - Lisa/400K Floppy System, $295 100-141 LISA ACCESSORIES - 800K internal disk drive, $159 500-800 - 2Mb RAM Upgrade, $195 200-120 - Lisa SCSI Card, $79 200-300 - Lisa SCSI Drive 20Mb, $195 501-201 - Lisa SCSI Drive 40Mb, $295 501-401 - MacWorks Plus SC, $99 402-107 - MacWorks Plus 400K, $99 402-200 - MacWorks Plus 800K, $99 402-108 LISA/MACINTOSH XL DO-IT-YOURSELF GUIDE Complete with Test Diskette The Lisa/Macintosh XL Do-It-Yourself Guide is a must for any Lisa/XL owner. The included diagnostic diskette will determine any problems that might arise be it hardware or software. If a hardware problem occurs, simply order a replacement module for the defective part and avoid costly repair bills. This manual also covers any adjustments or repairs you can make yourself. Regular Version $19 402-232 Screen Mod Version $19 402-231 Some other Sun tidbits from the catalog: MACINTOSH 128K, $195 MACINTOSH 512K, $249 MAC PORTABLE 2/40, $895 APPLE ///, $345

25 years, 9 months

Just when you thought eBay couldn't get more ridiculous

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Just when you thought eBay couldn't get more ridiculous... Two Rockwell AIM-65's (auctioned simultaneously, ending within minutes of each other, by different sellers, weird) just sold for $406 and $472 respectively (I'll give you 3 guesses to name one of the bidders...) Kai

25 years, 9 months

Aquarius Data Recorders

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Id pay 10 for one also, and put me down for TWO. -----Original Message----- From: Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)microsoft.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 4:19 PM Subject: RE: Aquarius Data Recorders >Well, my whole Aquarius only cost $35 with mini-expander and 3 carts, so I >guess I'd go maybe $10 on a tape drive. > >Kai > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Williams [mailto:dlw@trailingedge.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 1:50 PM >To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers >Subject: Aquarius Data Recorders > > >I just received an email from a local group which has 250 new in >box Aquarius cassette recorders. They are taking bids but I >suspect you can't just buy a few but would have to take the whole >lot. I have one but could use at least one more and maybe two and >it would be nice to have the box and any doc or cables. Is there >any interest in this out there? If so, how much would people be >willing to pay? Don't forget shipping costs. Let me know. BTW, >"local" in this case is Houston, TX. > > >----- >David Williams - Computer Packrat >dlw(a)trailingedge.com >http://www.trailingedge.com

25 years, 9 months

Update 2 - Aquarius Data Recorders

by Marty＠itgonline.com

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Update 2 - Aquarius Data Recorders Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 10/8/98 1:10 PM I just received more info on the Data Recorders... they had a "mis- communication", there are 3 pallets of 240 recorders each! 720 recorders total!!! They have agreed to let the pallets go separately. I'd like to know where they came up with these. Anyway, I guess I'll make them an offer on one pallet, I can't save them all. I guess the other 480 of them will hit the scrapers. Then I just have to figure out what to do with the remaining 220 recorders that haven't been claimed yet. >I can see it now... >Quick! Get your EXTREMELY RARE, IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND >Aquarius Data Recorder. No collector can live without one or three >or more! MINT CONDITION IN ORIGINAL BOX!! Opening bid only >$500. Move fast because I have to run 200 more auctions just like >this one. ;-) ;-) ;-) You forgot to include L@@K!!!! or maybe GASP!!! Marty ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Oct08.131012.1767.68580; Thu, 08 Oct 1998 13:10:13 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA04272; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:07:39 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA60200 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:07:35 -0700 Received: from trailingedge.com (IDENT:root@trailingedge.com [208.150.226.125]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA00 205 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:07:34 -0700 Received: from lovelyangel.advfilms.com (lovelyangel.advfilms.com [208.150.226.79]) by trailingedge.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA27382 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:07:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199810081707.MAA27382(a)trailingedge.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:07:24 -0500 Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "David Williams" <dlw(a)trailingedge.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Update 2 - Aquarius Data Recorders In-Reply-To: <199810081532.KAA26709(a)trailingedge.com> References: <002401bdf2b4$5324d600$42097c18(a)thedm.lawrence.ks.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

25 years, 9 months

eBay strangeness

by wanderer＠bos.nl

>> Am wondering if it is me or if everyone is experiencing this? Someone has listed an Altair 4k memory board. The eBay item number is 34468468. Whenever I go to this listing, my computer locks up. It has happened every time I have tried since earlier in the day. Only happens with this listing and no others. It seems to happen as soon as eBay starts to download the photo from the seller's web site. I have never experienced this with any other eBay auction. Bob Wood << Hmm, I went to that item and out of the 5 pictures, only the last one did not get loaded for some reason. The pics do look very good however. Ed -- The Wanderer | Geloof nooit een politicus! wanderer(a)bos.nl | Europarlementariers: http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer | zakkenvullers en dumpplaats voor Unix Lives! windows95 is rommel! | mislukte politici. '96 GSXR 1100R | See http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer/gates.html for a funny pic. of Gates!

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