Have y'all heard American Computer Company? They claim to have alien
technology that's going to enable them to come out with a chip that holds
90 gigs. Uh-huh....
http://accpc.com/tcapdisplay.htm
90 GB of Solid State Storage on a Single Wafer!
An original Semiconductor Device based upon J-S Dielectric-Junction
Electron-Bond-Species Manipulation Semiconductors arranged
in a High Density Ultra High Speed Integrated Quantum Junction Array
I particularly like the Electron Bond Species Manipulation bit.
R.
--
Warbaby
The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire.
http://www.warbaby.com
The MonkeyPool
WebSite Content Development
http://www.monkeypool.com
Once you get the nose on, the rest is just makeup.
>> My question is why did everything go to Hell between 300BC and 0AD? How could
>> you believe the earth was flat? Where did this idea come from?
>> Paxton
> Wasn't that around the time of the burning of the 'library' in
> Alexandria?
> Chuck
In fact, did anybody belive this, or is it just a
urban legend ?
:)
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
What's important to note is how much $200, $300, or $2600 in 1977 would buy
us today. Factoring in inflation, what would that be equivalent to today?
-Matt Pritchard
Graphics Engine and Optimization Specialist
MS Age of Empires & Age of Empires ][
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Clayton [SMTP:handyman@sprintmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 10:41 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: 16K RAM was 300 bucks in 1977
>
>
> In 1980 I moved into a Commodore Pet with a single IEEE Floppy drive, this
> was like heaven, A
> nice clear green 9 inch monochrome monitor, no more cassette tapes, 32K
> RAM, what more could a
> person want.. Well OK, add a Printer another $700.00, and a 300 baud modem
> $200.00.. And at
> about $2600.00 I had a dream machine.. Phil...
>
The Democarts, (both of them) and #19 are very hard to find. From talking
with other collectors, the democarts appear to be slightly more common.
Personally, I have a Channel F, Boxed Channel F II, and 23 of the 28 carts;
but I don't have #19, or either of the Democarts.
There was also a picture of a keyboard controller (K-1) on the box for
Channel F II. Perhaps a prototype exists for it.
As I recall the F8 was a microcontroller in the same vein as the 8048; but
that it multiplexed it's address and data lines; allowing for fewer
connectors on the cartridges. I think it also had 64 bytes of internal RAM;
organized as set of registers (sorta) which probably means that there was no
ram in the system.
I suspect the Channel F R&D effort was a rather small one; I had a chance to
learn about the R&D effort behind the Magnavox Odyssey^2, and discovered
that there was only a handful of people behind it doing the actual
development (one guy wrote half the game library) and that it had very poor
support from management at magnavox. All throughout the history of it, from
1978 to 1983, they were always told "this will be the last stuff you do for
the O^2, then we pull the plug" and each time they'll sell out the latest
run of carts/systems and be given a reprieve. management finally became
serious about it in 1983 just in time for the video game crash.
The Odyssey^2 had an Intel 8048 with a 512 byte BIOS, 128 bytes of RAM
(don't recall the chip) and the video (& sound) was driven by the Intel 8244
chip - the only application the chip was ever used in; (trivia - multiple
8244's could be hooked together with the output of one (slave/master mode)
being fed into the next one. Intel shows no reference to the chip or any
mention of it in their archives, but I have the story on it from the horse's
mouth (and the data sheets :) )
Somewhere, way way back in my archives, I have a copy of a post from someone
who claimed to work at Farichild way back when (and knew about the channel
F). I should try and dig it up someday to see if he could be tracked down.
-Matt Pritchard
Graphics Engine and Optimization Specialist
MS Age of Empires & Age of Empires ][
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois [SMTP:fauradon@pclink.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 9:11 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Fairchild Channel F units
>
> >#19 is the hardest to find.
>
>
> How about the demo cart #2? Is that a har to find Item?
>
> Francois
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Visit the desperately in need of update
> Sanctuary at: http://www.pclink.com/fauradon
< >> My question is why did everything go to Hell between 300BC and 0AD? H
< >> you believe the earth was flat? Where did this idea come from
<
< > Wasn't that around the time of the burning of the 'library' in
< > Alexandria?
<
< In fact, did anybody belive this, or is it just a
< urban legend ?
I think it is ascribed to the dark ages, roughly 700-1400AD Europe.
The polical power of the church was strong then and science was nearly
exitinct.
Allison
The CC-40 was real. I have one.
Dav Vandenbroucke
Economist
U.S. Dept. HUD
david_a._vandenbroucke(a)hud.gov
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> AT INTERNET on 10/11/98 02:47:22 AM
To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu AT INTERNET@CCMAILDOM
cc: (bcc: David A. Vandenbroucke/PDR/HHQ/HUD)
Subject: Re: Vaporware (and not) from '83 CES
> Unless I have my capacitors crossed, some dishwashing agents are
> chlorine-based, and H20 <=> OH- + H+; mix a free Cl- ion in and you have
> hydrochloric acid.
>
Well, I think they make it safe enough not to turn to hydrochloric acid (I
hope). Considering that people do put plastic dishes in the dishwasher,
and most have plastic drains and pumps. If we had dishwashing soap turning
to HCl all the time, a lot of people would have a big mess on their hands
(and soap companies would probably have a lot of lawsuits).
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
I worked for a company once as a service tech fixing CPT Word Processing
systems. When PC based word processing started to become popular (mid
'80s), CPT bridged the gap between their longtime standalone word
processing units and desktop PCs by using Wyse PC clones (the ones with
the blue backlit LCD display on them). They primarily consisted of a
clone style case with an expansion board. The CPU board plugged into the
expansion board like an add-on card and was primarily an entire 286 or
386 computer on a card. The keyboard connector was an RJ-11 with an
optional DIN adaptor for conventional keyboards. The other card
typically found in the system was a bridgeboard which was an entire CPT
system on a card with a monochrome video out. The 2 cards talked to each
other and became a full computer with built in CPT word processing
simultaneosly running along with a DOS/windows based environment. The
monitor was a portrait style page white display. The on screen display
could be split to show DOS on top and CPT on the bottom or made to show
a full screen CPT system as the CPT systems were originally designed.
Many govornment agencys used these systems to bridge their own
transition from dedicated word processing systems to PCs.
Jeff Salzman
>> > computer. Does WYSE ring a bell to anyone? But the biggest enigma is an
>>
>> Wyse terminals are fairly well-known, and I think they sold a PC clone at
>> one point.
>
>Actually several PC clones from 8088 up through at least the 80386. IIRC
>some of the later ones were quite stylish with diagonally-mounted LCDs
>(date, time, etc.).
>
>The later PCs and terminals used an RJ-11 (phone) connector for the
>keyboard cable. AS I recall, though, it was easily adaptable to an IBM
>AT connector. I believe the keyboards were interchangable between the PCs
>and terminals.
>
In a message dated 98-10-13 03:37:16 EDT, you write:
<< is true that sailors in those days were leery of sailing too far
from coast -- because there was no way to determine longitude until
accurate clocks were developed many years later.
>>
We know now that the Egyptians knew the 25,000 mile figure around 700 BC and
possibly much earlier. Recently they pulled a brass differential geared device
that may be an astronomical calculator from a wreck in the Mediterainian that
dates back to 300 - 400 BC. I bet the device is older yet, it is hard to
carbon date brass.
They recently discovered settlements on the south coast of Chile that date
back 30,000 yrs. I believe that there was regular but infrequent trade &
travel between Egypt and South America 4000 years ago. My question is which
way did they go, the long way, via China, the Bearing Straits and down the
west coast of the Americas; or did they go the short way, which is from the
westernmost tip of Africa straight across the Atlantic. This distance is is
shorter than the length of the Mediterainian. If you were able to calculate
the distance one had traveled by going the long way (I think this was done
first); I would think that the short way would become obvious.
To get back to classic computers, I bet this brass device is one of the first
computers, if differential geared devices count.
My question is why did everything go to Hell between 300BC and 0AD? How could
you believe the earth was flat? Where did this idea come from?
Paxton
