Better get a small truck...
http://pc.dec-j.co.jp/support/may/dec_jpg/part_1/image/pdp9.jpg
At 04:56 PM 10/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just talked to somebody that has a PDP-9 that has been in continuous use
>(24 hours/day) since 1967! They're finally thinking about phasing it out.
>So, I was thinking.... How big is a PDP-9?
>
>-- Doug
>
All,
Spotted a (what I regard as) classic terminal the other day. It was
at A-Tex electronics in San Antonio (if your phone book isn't that new,
call the Altex electronics and ask for their recently spun-off parts
division near the airpont). It was not in good shape - several keycaps
broken off, scratched, very dirty, no manual. It was $25 as is, and I had
no chance to power up and see how it is. Also the missing manual hurts,
because a lot of the very cool and well-thought-out graphics instructions
are called by escape sequences that I don't remember at all.
If I remember right, the 4025 was Tek's start at transitioning off
the long-lasting phosphor technology into a regular bit-mapped display.
Istr that it had maybe 2 Z-80's and about 64k of RAM, which was not bad at
the time (late 70's to 1980 or so?) for a whole system, to say nothing of a
terminal. It had a pair of thumbwheels for cursor control. It felt and
looked industrial strength and was a pleasure to use. Anybody remember more
useful info about it?
- Mark
I slight curiosity I've hit upon, and was wondering if anyone might have
the docs on this board at hand to help sort it out.
I've got a couple of Godbout 'Econorom' 2708 boards, which from the legend
and markings on the board seem to imply that it is intended to be used
with 2708 Eproms.
The oddity becomes, I've got one that is full of 2732 Eproms (it came that
way). And of course, if I've got the docs on it they are buried in the
warehouse somewhere... (sigh)
So, I'm wondering if this board is actually configurable for different
Eproms, and if so, does anyone have the specs at hand? (ideally, I'd like
to know how to configure it for 2716 Eproms)
Thanks!
-jim
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I'm pretty sure I have those docs, let me check tonight. I know for sure I
have the docs for the CompuPro labeled one, which may or may not be a later
version.
I've been entering all my docs in a database the past few days, and I'm
about 2/3 done. Already at 350+! I'm finding all sorts of interesting
tidbits stuck into the binders, such as the original brochure for the IMSAI,
copies of Ohio Scientific's magazine/newsletter, etc.
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: James Willing [mailto:jimw@agora.rdrop.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 1998 9:23 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Info needed on Godbout Econorom 2708
I slight curiosity I've hit upon, and was wondering if anyone might have
the docs on this board at hand to help sort it out.
I've got a couple of Godbout 'Econorom' 2708 boards, which from the legend
and markings on the board seem to imply that it is intended to be used
with 2708 Eproms.
The oddity becomes, I've got one that is full of 2732 Eproms (it came that
way). And of course, if I've got the docs on it they are buried in the
warehouse somewhere... (sigh)
So, I'm wondering if this board is actually configurable for different
Eproms, and if so, does anyone have the specs at hand? (ideally, I'd like
to know how to configure it for 2716 Eproms)
Thanks!
-jim
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jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
< I've got a couple of Godbout 'Econorom' 2708 boards, which from the lege
< and markings on the board seem to imply that it is intended to be used
< with 2708 Eproms.
If it says Econorom and 2708 that is true.
< So, I'm wondering if this board is actually configurable for different
< Eproms, and if so, does anyone have the specs at hand? (ideally, I'd li
< to know how to configure it for 2716 Eproms)
It was not. That board was likely hacked for 2732 as the basic board was
2708 only. Fyi: the hack would be significant as 2708 was a three volage
part! Or it could simple be filled with 2732s for no good reason.
Allison
< >> By my faulty memory, the actual computer is about 2.5'W x 1'H x 2.5L
< >> Warning, they are HEAVY!
The PDP-8I was about that size and that was a year or two later than
the -9. The -9 has to be bigger.
< You sure about that?? We had a PDP-9 running some Radio station Automat
< equipment and the actual PDP unit was that one 'silver' box in the pictu
< Our other racks were the tape players and interface boards.
Everyone thought the 8I was 13" high(size of front pannel) but the
box/backplane was nearly three times that. Anyhow the size of front
pannels are often deceptive.
Allison
Servus,
back home, and back to the list.
Thanks to all for VCF 2.0. It was just fun. And Sam, maybe
you should offer another T-shirt next year for the 'day after':
I survived VCF 3.0
(but my wallet didn't survive the flea market)
:))
And the worst of all - my wish list is expanding: I've
seen some real neat things out there (Teachers PET,
SWTP 6800, Black Apple ][, Timex Coco's ...), and of
coure now I need any material from / for 'The Digital
Group' computers (Hi Chuck). And, And, And ...
--------------------
And now something of topic:
I need some help for_actual_ SUN HW. We have (want) to
order a Desktop unit, but I have no idea, so I need
independent info (not form a sales man trying to sell
his leftovers). If anyone is into the matter, pls.
send me an e-mail for further info. I would apreciate
any help.
Servus
Hans
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
Please send me info about how to remove addresses from your list serve. I need to remove to addresses OTHER that the one that this mail is being sent from.
Daniel:
I would be willing to help!
William R. Buckley
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel A. Seagraves <DSEAGRAV(a)toad.xkl.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 12:01 PM
Subject: KL-10 Emulation Underway
>This message was supposed to have gotten here a while ago, but it never
did.
>Myself and a few other individuals are actively working on a KL-10
emulation.
>The project is named e10, and is 3.99% finished. I'm busy confusing myself
>with 36-bit math right now. Anyway, help would be nice to complete this
>fscker. It's being written in C for Unix platforms, it's under the GPL.
>Please don't email me and tell me how stupid this is, or how I'm never
>going to finish, I'm trying my damndest to maintain the Never-Give-Up
>attitude. I plan to be winning by Y2K. Anyway, does anyone want to help
out?
>
>I generated a web page (Using vi, of course...) at bony.umtec.com, and
>the current source can be had from there via FTP in /pub/ka10/*.
>Any help at all would be appreciated.
>-------
Yup, I bought 10 decks. I'm taking them to a conference too see if I can
generate some clever lads into a new card game or two...
--Chuck
(Who only ever found Bridge to be an interesting card game)
At 09:15 PM 10/4/98 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
>
>> If it was on the same table as the Digital Group Z80, then that was Hal
>> Layer's table (although it was Chuck McManis' Z80).
>
>I still don't know what computer we are talking about.
>
>Did anyone actual check out Hal's Z-Byte cards? I think they are
>incredibly clever.
>
>Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
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>Ever onward.
>
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> See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
> [Last web site update: 09/21/98]
>