I was given some DEC manuals and have no use for them. They're all new in
the shrink wrap and if anyone wants them they can have them for the cost of
postage from Florida. Here's a list: Network Communications- DECnet_DOS
Getting Started, Network Communications- DECnet_DOS User's Guide, Network
Communications- DECnet_DOS Release Notes, Network Communications-
DECnet_DOS Installation Guide, Network Communications- DECnet_DOS
Programmer's REference Manual. I don't know if there is any software in
the packs but it doesn't look like it.
Joe
>At 02:10 PM 12/31/97, you wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's a language but like IBM APL it has (is ?) it's on evironment
>>and OS. Both require a IBM with the ROM BASIC.
>
>That's out then. I want something truly bizarre to run on my GRiDCASE 3.
Many years ago I bought a single-user copy of CCS MUMPS. It will run on an
XT (it even used to work just fine on my DEC Rainbow), but runs under
MS-DOS, so it's not _really_ an operating system (unless you want to grant
Windows operating system status).
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
> Anyone know of a free source for x86 CP/M?
http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm/
> or forth?
ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth is a large archive of Forth stuff. The home
for fig is http://www.forth.org/
> Am I missing
> something? Isn't forth a language, not an OS?
Sure, throw _that_ in my face!
I'm aware of a company locally that used to run all their accounting on a
multiuser BASIC whose name escapes me. They were using an AT at the time; I
don't know whether that particular BASIC would run on an XT.
When you get to things like multiuser Forths and multiuser BASICs, it's hard
to say where the language stops and the OS begins...
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
someone posted to a local newsgroup about a non working apple //e for $10.
here's what i got...
apple //e in original box. not working, im told; boots to garbage on screen.
it's a late model //e, but just before the enhanced version, so it has that
nice keyboard feel i like. A1 cosmetic condition.
duodisk in original box with cable. also in A1 condition except the drive
latches are dirty from dirty fingers.
mono monitor in original box. this is the one with the manual tilt screen and
the video cable. A1 condition, of course.
all manuals that ever would have shipped with this machine, in perfect
condition of course. also got all the promotional items that went with it,
including the apple stickers in their never opened bag.
~100 flippy disks of various apps, including some commercial ones.
aps ext 80 col card in original box
suprmod box, (no suprmod though). i also got manuals and papers with some of
the apps as well. everything was dutifully packed up and looks to be seldom
used. all in all, a perfect one for the collection! i noticed the shipping
boxes say "the PERSONAL computer" lol.
i have lots of spare apple chips so i'm wondering where do i start with the
//e problem? no beep either but garbage on screen. chips were reseated
already.
david.
FYI,
>
>Joe,
>Do you remember I once told you that IBM carries parts WELL past the date
>of marketing withdrawal.?? There is an 800 number to call to get prices
>AND parts identifaction. There is a FEE for the parts identification but
>the price quote and availability info is free. Write this # down..you may
>need it some day. 800-388-7080.
>If you call it and select parts pricing for PN 2305616 you will find that
>it has been assigned a new PN 2462593 and it costs $18.75. You can also
>order directly through this number. This does NOT work for PC parts (only
>real machines!!). Pick a part number off of your 5100 and see if it is
>still in the sysem (probably not)
>John
>P.S. there is an ex IBM'r in north Jersey who formed his own company to do
>nothing but repair series/1's years ago. His name was Al Horton and his
>company was called....are you ready for this.....Series/1. I don't have
>his # but your friend can try the phonebook.
>
Joe
In a message dated 97-12-31 10:36:45 EST, you write:
<< K, let's say I have a stock IBM PC XT. What can I put on it except DOS?
>>
yes, minix would work, but i dont think it's free. there's something called
ELKS which is under development, but you need to have a working linux box or
similar to download the images and create them for use on the xt. seems that
720k drives on the xt were recommended as well. for more info, goto
www.uk.linux.org (i think)
david
I've been working with an H-89 that was given to me a few months ago,
trying to make backups of the HDOS boot disk, both for myself and for
Don Maslin, Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives. I've
gone through the manuals and followed the instructions for copying the
HDOS system perhaps 20 times, but with only one working copy to show
for it. I had 4 blanks from Don, as well as another 4 of my own that
I tried. The media tests available in HDOS seem to indicate
everything is okay; in fact, I've used one of the same disks that
failed with HDOS to make a copy of NorthStar CP/M on my IMSAI since
then. The steps I've gone through are to INIT the diskette, then
SYSGEN *.* to copy the system files and utilities. According to the
manual, this is supposed to produce an exact copy of the boot disk.
It appears to work, in that it asks me to swap disks 5 or 6 times
(when I try doing a single drive copy), and it accesses both drives
repeatedly (when using a two-drive copy). After it has been at this a
while, it prints the message "20 files copied" and asks me to insert a
bootable diskette to reboot from. If I go back to the original boot
disk, it boots. With any of my copies (except one, which I thought I
made exactly the same way as the others), the system gives the normal
"H:" prompt, to which I respond "B" for "boot"; it spins the disk and
then hangs. Normally, if the disk is bootable, it says "Action?
(Boot)" and boots if you hit Return. Out of all these attempts, I've
actually gotten one bootable disk. I've tried bulk-erasing the disks
and starting over, thinking that perhaps that would help, but with the
same results. I'm out of ideas... Can anyone offer any suggestions?
I'm out of ideas...
-Bill Richman
bill_r(a)inetnebr.com
http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r
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Been on the road the last few weeks but picked up a few items along the
way. In Houston I got a A20000 KB for 4.95 they wanted too much for the
monitor and computer; picked Mac KB for 2.99; commodore 128D complete 1.00;
VTEK Braille Display unit; Mac color display M1212 15.00 works; HP 45711B
notebook with HP 9118 3.5 ext unit, and HP thinkjet model 2225B all for
5.00; back here in the TwinCities (MN) I got Toshiba T1200 for trade; a
Epson Equity LT Q150A for trade; Toshiba T1100 Plus not working for 15.00;
Lisa 2 for 5.00; a Cari portable power unit for the Apple IIc for 3.00;
Epyx Monster Maze cartridge; Atari 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe cartridge; Zenith
ZWL-183-93 laptop free; 13 TI travelmate 2000 notebooks $5 each non
working; various books and manuals and different brands of mice (Mac, PC,
Next, etc). It's been a good holiday for shopping. Keep Computing !!!
Happy New Year to ALL.
Greetings;
Decided to fire up yet another previously unchecked box in the collection,
and after the normal preliminaries cranked it up, and found that it boots
to Xenix v3.0b. And of course, with the usual problems... No docs, and no
passwords...
Tried some of the more common openings, with no success so far... And I've
watched the boot process, and don't see any opportunity to abort to 'single
user' mode... Suggestions???
I can abort the boot all together, and end up at the following screen:
ALTOS COMPUTER SYSTEMS - 586
Monitor Version V1.1
Press any key to interrupt boot
Enter [1] to boot from Hard Disk
Enter [2] to boot from Floppy Disk
Enter [3] to enter Monitor
Booting from the hard disk takes me back to Xenix, I have no floppies so
that one is out for the moment, and going to the 'monitor' gets me this:
Enter option: 3
< A, B, D, G, I, K, L, M, O, R, S, X >
Anyone have any insights as to what these commands are? (don't want to
stumble onto a HD init by accident)
When Xenix boots, it indicates that the machine has 840k of RAM, but says
little else. I'm not even sure right at the moment what processor is in
it. (not dug that far under the panels)
Anyone familiar with this particular machine, and/or this variant of Xenix
that might be able to provide some insights? Any thoughts would be
appreciated!
Thanks!
-jim
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