John Allain wrote: I didn't just mean the money. A machine had to be junked to get that panel. Those machines are beautiful on many different levels. Peace... Sridhar

Chuck Guzis wrote: Oh definitely. But that machine was beautiful in a way different from an S/360. And there's definitely charm to having an entire building's worth of S/370/168 on raised floor with all of its racks lined up perfectly and all of its tapes singing. Peace... Sridhar

Chuck Guzis wrote: I visited McAuto in the day, 1972, when they had Dual 168's and about 20 or so 158's on the top floor, Dasd on the second floor, and the basement full of printers and 360/40's. It was not that noisy, but definitely busy. They had the stick man walking the dog program running on the console lights of one of the 168's. Jim

Fred Cisin wrote: There was also an idle loop for the CDC 6800 (or 6700) that put a cdc "C" up in the front panel lights while idle. I saw a 6 way system at a company called DCC in Memphis Tn, and it was amazing to see all the boxes periodically go idle and see the "C" appear and then flicker out to a dull glow, then suddenly appear again. The power bill for the front panels was a significant amount. I imagine that the 168 was the most expensive, but I'd have to say the CDC OS (whatever it was) having the "C" integrated into its idle loop was better than the 168 with a special program to do the stick man. Also on the 168, you had to dial up all the right registers to get the display, on the CDC front panel, you always got it. IIRC on the cdc it probably was on 10 rows of lights. the 168 had more lights across more rows for a larger display. Jim

Chuck Guzis wrote: got it wrong, it was the burroughs "B" on the B 6700 mainframe. The 6700 was replaced by a Multics system at the site. It was only 30 years ago this year. I must be getting old or something.

On Thursday 27 April 2006 09:19 pm, jim stephens wrote: Nah... Dunno about you but I'm not gonna have any of that. But yeah, sometimes I forget, or maybe mix things up a bit, or stuff like that. Cluttered! That's what it is, my mind is too cluttered! Yeah, that's the ticket... :-) -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

On 4/27/2006 at 3:02 PM jim stephens wrote: walking the Noise is funny stuff. I remember at CDC, many people complained about the noise in the machine room. Eventually, they brought in a guy with a sound meter who said that the noise wasn't terrible--about 83 dB, measured, I think at 1000 Hz. Now, if this was a typewriter generating that 83 dB, I probably wouldn't have had a problem. But this was "white" noise--the collective noise of the tape drive vacuum pumps, all of the forced-air cooling, etc. The machines themselves were very quiet--they were cooled with a chilled-water heat exchanger, so there was no forced-air noise. The line printers were pretty well insulated, too. The card readers were loud, but they didn't run all of the time--and no one used the card punch. But put in 8 hours in a room full of white noise, and you find yourself getting jittery and irritable. I found that doing my serious thinking oustide of the machine room was very effective. The big problem was that some idiot would drift by and see an unattended machine and try to run his "little job", thereby screwing up your debugging efforts. Signs threatening bodily harm if were very useful when placed on what looked to be an idle system... To this day, I can't stand a PC with a fan that's much louder than barely audible. Cheers, Chuck

In article <44513F75.40302 at msm.umr.edu>, jim stephens <jwstephens at msm.umr.edu> writes: I'd love to see a video of this if anyone can make it happen or has one that they could digitize! -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

well the dddk guy al kosow knows.... he bid 9 grand.... ask Al? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Allain" <allain at panix.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: F*ck a f*cking duck

Patrick Finnegan wrote: The best part is dkdkk came in second, for once :-)

Fred Cisin wrote: Dang, you spoiled my illusion about that. I guess there is no Santa Claus either will be the next thing you'll tell me. I wonder if the 6$ guy will actually go thru with it, or whether it'll get relisted. I doubt that Mr. Corestore would have so many in his garage, if he bought them off ebay, if dkdkk had been around when they were all over the place then. with prices like this it seems like it may be time to fab up some reproductions, with Hercules SBC's inside blink'n the lights. I would almost buy such a gizmo, and have been sorely tempted to go for one of the Pdp 8's on a wall that are around, and so nice.

On Thursday 27 April 2006 00:25, Fred Cisin wrote: Nor does it mean that the moosehead should have been chopped off the moose in the first place. :) Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS --- http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org