23 Dec
2000
23 Dec
'00
11:34 a.m.
Season's Greetings,
Well, today, I finally removed my CDC 9" SMD disk drive from the
living room; getting it down the basement steps was fun. Anyway, now
it's only a few feet away from my 11/73 and 11/44. The 11/73, running
RT-11 and RSX-11, already has two, much smaller, 8" Fujitsu SMD drives
in it.
Now then, I've got an RL02 pack labeled RSX-11M, which I'm hoping
contains a complete RSX-11M distribution. If I can get an RL02
controller board for the 11/73, will there be any problem with just
connecting one of the SMD cables to the CDC drive and copying RSX-11M
onto it? Should I be able to boot this from any PDP-11? One note:
this CDC drive appears to be configured for drive select 1, not
0... does anyone know where I can get one of those little square
buttons used to select drive 0?
When I get the intermittent CPU problem on the 11/44 fixed, and find a
UNIBUS SMD controller, can I just attach the CDC drive to the 11/44 and
have it boot and go, or will I need to reconfigure something?
Thanks for any info. that anyone can provide about this!
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23 Dec
23 Dec
11:58 a.m.
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10:36 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
I would doubt it. From what I remmeber, RSX11M 4.x was
about 3 RL02 packs or
5 RL01 packs, or 1 RK07 pack. 3.x might be a bit smaller, but it would be
a squeeze to get it onto a single RL02, I think.
Actually, the RSX11M 4.x distribution kit comes on 5 RL02 packs or 7
RL01 packs. The RK07 distibution is on 1 disk and the last form is
on 2 9 track tapes.
I assume you know about the physical cabling.
There's one 60 way ribbon
that links the control connectors on all the drives back to the
controller -- the furthest drive from the controller has a terminator
fitted. And there's a separate 26 way data/radial cable from each drive
back to the controller.
I have 2 Fujitsu SMD's as well, with the 68 way ribbon cable placed
between both drives (a sort of Y cable arrangement).
Regarding making a bootable RSX system on one of these drives, you
can do it using the following steps.
(I do not know how well you know RSX, so maybe I overdetail the steps)
Boot from the RL02 (> is the MCR prompt)
ins $ini #if already installed, ignore the warning
ins $pip # ditto
ins $bad # ditto
run bad
bad>db0:/li #lists bad blocks (if found)
bad>^Z
ini db0:RSX11M # initializes the disk and labels it
pip db0:[*,*]/nv/uf/fo=dl0:[*,*]*.*
asn db0:=sy:
asn db0:=lb:
set /uic=[1,54]
pip rsx11m.sys/co/nv/bl:498.=rsx11m.tsk
rem vmr
rem boo
ins db0:$vmr
ins db0:$boo
vmr @sysvmr
boo [1,54]rsx11m
Boot information is displayed, and an XDT prompt will show
XDT>g
tim 12:00 01-jan-90 # RSX below 4.7 is not Y2K
compliant!
sav /wb # saves the booted system and builds the
# bootblock on block 0 of the
SMD disk
The system will reboot automatically and you now have a running RSX
environment on your larger disk.
Emulex did made the SMD Unibus boards (others probably too), in my
machine I have the Emulex board, and it can control 4 SMD disks.
Alternatively, to build your CDC disk, if it can be connected to your
11/73, then you can copy RSX from the other disk to the new disk,
and make it so ready for use.
There might however be a little problem on behaviour of the 11/73
generated RSX environment compared to the 11/44 processor (cpu
behaviour).
Merry Xmas,
Ed
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10:49 p.m.
New subject: Board ID needed
A good day to all,
I have found a board of which I would like to know where it is used
for.
It seems to be made by ACT, and has the following numbers, 10046001 REV
C, 10046002 REV C, 10046-0. It is a hex slot board, and there are two
50 pin connectors on top. Above the A/B slots, there are 2 connectors
where a regular(?) dual card can be placed in. There are no special
chips other than the regular 74xx types.
+------------------------------+
| xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx |
| J1 J2 |
| +-======-======-+
| |
| |
| s |
| s |
| s s |
| s s |
+xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx+
|||||| |||||| |||||| |||||| |||||| ||||||
s = switch pack
Thanks,
Ed
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29 Dec
29 Dec
11:27 a.m.
New subject: Board ID needed
Well, finally dug up my old Able boards brochure. The 10046 board
is described as the Interlink/UNI.
It emulates and is software compatible with the DEC DR11B. It also
emulates the DEC DA11-B allowing computer link operation between
2 Unibus machines with a second 10046 or link with a Qbus system
when used with the Interlink/LSI, 10049.
Anyway, that was the sales pitch. $1600 in 1984.
nick o
wanderer wrote:
A good day to all,
I have found a board of which I would like to know where it is used
for.
It seems to be made by ACT, and has the following numbers, 10046001 REV
C, 10046002 REV C, 10046-0. It is a hex slot board, and there are two
50 pin connectors on top. Above the A/B slots, there are 2 connectors
where a regular(?) dual card can be placed in. There are no special
chips other than the regular 74xx types.
+------------------------------+
| xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx |
| J1 J2 |
| +-======-======-+
| |
| |
| s |
| s |
| s s |
| s s |
+xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx+
|||||| |||||| |||||| |||||| |||||| ||||||
s = switch pack
Thanks,
Ed
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10:04 p.m.
New subject: Board ID needed
Hello Nick,
Thanks for the info, since I have only one of these an I have no use
for it, is anybody intrested in it? $10 + postage.
no wrote:
Well, finally dug up my old Able boards brochure. The 10046 board
is described as the Interlink/UNI.
It emulates and is software compatible with the DEC DR11B. It also
emulates the DEC DA11-B allowing computer link operation between
2 Unibus machines with a second 10046 or link with a Qbus system
when used with the Interlink/LSI, 10049.
Anyway, that was the sales pitch. $1600 in 1984.
nick o
wanderer wrote:
>
> A good day to all,
>
> I have found a board of which I would like to know where it is used
> for.
>
> It seems to be made by ACT, and has the following numbers, 10046001 REV
> C, 10046002 REV C, 10046-0. It is a hex slot board, and there are two
> 50 pin connectors on top. Above the A/B slots, there are 2 connectors
> where a regular(?) dual card can be placed in. There are no special
> chips other than the regular 74xx types.
>
> +------------------------------+
> | xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx |
> | J1 J2 |
> | +-======-======-+
> | |
> | |
> | s |
> | s |
> | s s |
> | s s |
> +xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx--xxxxxx+
> |||||| |||||| |||||| |||||| |||||| ||||||
>
> s = switch pack
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
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23 Dec
23 Dec
10:57 p.m.
New subject: Switch settings
Another question to ask, I got an Unibus SCSI card, and I know that
it can be configured as either a tape controller or a disk controller.
Currently it is configured as a disk controller, but I would like
to know which switch settings change it into a tape controller.
There is are 2 switch banks on the card, one with 10 switches, and
one with 4 switches, which is placed at the top. Furthermore, there
are 4 jumpers which can be set/removed.
BTW, the card is an Emulex UC17.
It works perfectly, yesterday I did build RSX 4.6 onto an Iomega
jazz drive. It only uses 600Mb out of the 1Gb though.
Thanks,
Ed
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24 Dec
24 Dec
1:19 a.m.
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, R. D. Davis wrote:
it's only a few feet away from my 11/73 and 11/44.
The 11/73, running
RT-11 and RSX-11, already has two, much smaller, 8" Fujitsu SMD drives
in it.
Oops... big mistake in my original message: RT-11 and TSX11+ are what
exist on my 11/73; I guess that error was a result of wishful thinking
about RSX-11. :-) There's no RSX-11 on any of my systems, and I'm not
at all failiar with installing it (or using it, beyond having looked
at my manual set and briefly using it from a guest account on magica a
while back)... however, it looks like the closest thing to VMS on a
PDP-11, so I want to install it on another disk, but don't want to get
rid of RT-11 and TSX+. :-)
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