8 Nov
2006
8 Nov
'06
8:50 p.m.
For the most part, no software is available because DEC/Compaq/HP hasn't given
permission for redistribution
(other than the implicit one in your being allowed to borrow someone's VMS set with a
valid Hobbyist license). The
rumors I've heard indicate that OSF/1-DIGITAL Unix-Tru64 is "encumbered" and
so is unlikely to ever be freely
released. The GossipNet indicates that this (encumberances and royalty payments) is why
the "Enthusiast" license is $100
instead of the VMS program's $0 (or $30 if you want the disk). Sadly, Alpha died at
the end of October and the enthusiast
Tru64 program likely died with it.
Ultrix seems to be a slippery beast, though, and pops up from time to time on the
Internet, in both VAX and MIPS forms- look around.
9 Nov
9 Nov
2:18 a.m.
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Scott Quinn wrote:
For the most part, no software is available because
DEC/Compaq/HP hasn't
given permission for redistribution (other than the implicit one in your
being allowed to borrow someone's VMS set with a valid Hobbyist
license). The rumors I've heard indicate that OSF/1-DIGITAL Unix-Tru64
is "encumbered" and so is unlikely to ever be freely released. The
GossipNet indicates that this (encumberances and royalty payments) is
why the "Enthusiast" license is $100 instead of the VMS program's $0 (or
$30 if you want the disk). Sadly, Alpha died at the end of October and
the enthusiast Tru64 program likely died with it.
Ultrix seems to be a slippery beast, though, and pops up from time to
time on the Internet, in both VAX and MIPS forms- look around.
As I understand it, some of the larger systems I ended up with originally
ran OSF/1, but the OS tapes were tossed out before I got them. I *did* end
up with quite a bit of Tru64 stuff, but I really needed something older...
-Toth
10:41 a.m.
On 9/11/06 10:18, "Tothwolf" <tothwolf at concentric.net> wrote:
As I understand it, some of the larger systems I ended
up with originally
ran OSF/1, but the OS tapes were tossed out before I got them. I *did* end
up with quite a bit of Tru64 stuff, but I really needed something older...
What version? I've got 1.3, 2.x, 4.0b/d/e/g and 5.1a/b. Somewhere in my
stash is also T1.0 for MIPS but I'm damned if I can find it.....
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10:48 a.m.
I've got a couple copies of OSF/1 if anyone needs anything. I'm not sure
what version it is, it's pretty old, though.
On 11/9/06, Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
On 9/11/06 10:18, "Tothwolf" <tothwolf at concentric.net> wrote:
As I understand it, some of the larger systems I
ended up with
originally
ran OSF/1, but the OS tapes were tossed out
before I got them. I *did*
end
up with quite a bit of Tru64 stuff, but I really
needed something
older...
What version? I've got 1.3, 2.x, 4.0b/d/e/g and 5.1a/b. Somewhere in my
stash is also T1.0 for MIPS but I'm damned if I can find it.....
--
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Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
10:39 a.m.
On 9/11/06 04:50, "Scott Quinn" <compoobah at valleyimplants.com> wrote:
with a valid Hobbyist license). The
rumors I've heard indicate that OSF/1-DIGITAL Unix-Tru64 is "encumbered"
and
so is unlikely to ever be freely
released. The GossipNet indicates that this (encumberances and royalty
I'm surprised at this since even HP don't own Tru64 any more, haven't they
sold it to the Chinese government? Sure I read that somewhere in an
interview with one of the Alpha experts.
instead of the VMS program's $0 (or $30 if you
want the disk). Sadly, Alpha
died at the end of October and the enthusiast
Tru64 program likely died with it.
Both a supplier and one of our salescritters yesterday told me Alpha had
been extended for another year but I've not had time to look into it
officially. New stock is still available, the rest is marked as Renew.
Ultrix seems to be a slippery beast, though, and pops
up from time to time on
the Internet, in both VAX and MIPS forms- look around.
And a few of us have 4.2 and 4.4 distro CDs :)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
11:23 a.m.
I'm surprised at this since even HP don't own
Tru64 any more, haven't they
sold it to the Chinese government? Sure I read that somewhere in an
interview with one of the Alpha experts.
?!?! I think you had best check your facts on this one. I've heard nothing
to indicate that HP has sold Tru64, and with no knew Alpha chips they'd be
hard pressed to find a buyer.
instead of the
VMS program's $0 (or $30 if you want the disk). Sadly, Alpha
died at the end of October and the enthusiast
Tru64 program likely died with it.
Both a supplier and one of our salescritters yesterday told me Alpha had
been extended for another year but I've not had time to look into it
officially. New stock is still available, the rest is marked as Renew.
1:14 p.m.
On 9/11/06 19:23, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
?!?! I think you had best check your facts on this
one. I've heard nothing
to indicate that HP has sold Tru64, and with no knew Alpha chips they'd be
hard pressed to find a buyer.
http://www.inquirerinside.com/Default.aspx?article=4266
Obviously not a guarantee of 100% FACT but it's out there. This wasn't the
source of the rumour I remembered but a quick google turned it up. The
source was an interview with someone who was big on Alpha before leaving
Hpaq, wish I could remember his name!
Interesting, I've not seen any word of this in the
OpenVMS areas. What does
marking as "Renew" mean? Could your suppliers be confusing the fact that HP
has said support and parts will be available for a good long time?
No, renew in the proliant world means refurbished or old stock product, I
guess in the Alpha world it means it's not 'new' any more since the last
order date has passed so the marque is now 'old'.
--
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Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
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collection?
1:30 p.m.
In article <C1794AAF.5708%witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>,
Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> writes:
I wouldn't trust anything I read on that site based on the things that
they've said about technologies where I know better than them what's
going on. They are literally a tech. tabloid.
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2:04 p.m.
On 9/11/06 21:30, "Richard" <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
I wouldn't trust anything I read on that site
based on the things that
they've said about technologies where I know better than them what's
going on. They are literally a tech. tabloid.
If you'd read further into my message you'd have seen that I said that that
wasn't where I'd got my info from but the first thing a google search turned
up.
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Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
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