Searching for Sun2 and Sun3 bits and bobs- a long-running project approaches completion!
24 Feb
2018
24 Feb
'18
2:46 p.m.
Hi folks,
I recently, on a trip to Oregon, finally got a compatible ECL monitor for my Sun 2. It
came with a rather nice Sun 3/260, which I?d like to run as well.
So I thought I?d put out a beg here- I?m so close to finishing this.
I need to shake loose a keyboard and mouse for a Sun 2.
Would anyone be willing to sell me one? I?m not expecting a handout; they would be paid
for and well loved.
On a related note, I?d love to run the 3/260 as well: What I?d like to do for that is hunt
down a Sun color framebuffer for it so I can use a more common display. (and of course,
enjoy the wonders of color).
I?m not sure what the options there are, but I have a nice scan converter so just about
any compatible color framebuffer will do. I can then totally repurpose the monitor I?ve
just found for my 2/120.
So, in the words of another immortal list member, ?advice hints ?????
Thanks in advance,
- I
24 Feb
24 Feb
4:42 p.m.
On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Ian via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I need to shake loose a keyboard and mouse for a Sun 2.
For non-Sun experts, what is that exactly?
I have a keyboard that looks like this one with a 15-pin D-shell
connector which has the title "Sun-2 keyboard" on this page:
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X1550.98B
Looking up the number 370-1095 (full number is 370109556799 on my
keyboard) indicates it is a Type-3 keyboard. The optical mouse plugs
into the back of the keyboard with an RJ type plug.
This keyboard/mouse combo plugs into a Sun 4/110. No idea what other
Sun models it may be compatible with.
6:57 p.m.
Glen, thanks for the response.
The keyboard I?m looking for which I need for the 2/120 looks like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanc/4013376694/in/photostream
Part #: 540-1006-01
It terminates with a registered jack and not a d-sub.
Perhaps maybe some late mode Sun2s used the one you pointed at... I have one for the Sun3.
I?m not sure.
I also know the mouse for the Sun2/120 looks like the one for the 3, but is in black and
again terminated with a registered jack that connects to the CPU directly, and not via the
keyboard as on the keyboard you posted.
I?m sure somewhere, some rotten keyboard collector is using the keyboard I need with their
Dell PC because the keys click with some vaguely unique hysteresis curve or something...
Thanks,
- I
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On Feb 24, 2018, at 16:42, Glen Slick via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Ian via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I need to shake loose a keyboard and mouse for a Sun 2.
For non-Sun experts, what is that exactly?
I have a keyboard that looks like this one with a 15-pin D-shell
connector which has the title "Sun-2 keyboard" on this page:
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X1550.98B
Looking up the number 370-1095 (full number is 370109556799 on my
keyboard) indicates it is a Type-3 keyboard. The optical mouse plugs
into the back of the keyboard with an RJ type plug.
This keyboard/mouse combo plugs into a Sun 4/110. No idea what other
Sun models it may be compatible with. 
11:15 p.m.
On Feb 24, 2018, at 18:57, Ian wrote:
Glen, thanks for the response.
The keyboard I?m looking for which I need for the 2/120 looks like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanc/4013376694/in/photostream
That is a Sun Type 2 keyboard.
Part #: 540-1006-01
It terminates with a registered jack and not a d-sub.
Perhaps maybe some late mode Sun2s used the one you pointed at... I have one for the
Sun3. I?m not sure.
I also know the mouse for the Sun2/120 looks like the one for the 3, but is in black and
again terminated with a registered jack that connects to the CPU directly, and not via the
keyboard as on the keyboard you posted.
The Sun 2/120 had the two RJ connectors for keyboard and mouse and the Type 2 Keyboard and
Type 2 Mouse (which you correctly describe) fit them.
I am thinking that there was a passive adapter box that went between the 15-pin D
connector on later Suns and the two RJ connectors. Maybe for the Sun 2/50. It also
allowed one to use the Type 2 keyboard and mouse on the Sun 3/60 (and probably other
models too).
Type 2 and Type 3 are electrically the same, the big differences are the connectors and
that the Type 3 keyboard is where the mouse signals are split out.
I?m sure somewhere, some rotten keyboard collector is
using the keyboard I need with their Dell PC because the keys click with some vaguely
unique hysteresis curve or something?
I remember preferring the Type 2 keyboard to the Type 3 keyboard, and for a while using a
Type 2 keyboard and mouse with a Sun 3/60 through one of the passive adaptor boxes. I do
not recall why I preferred the Type 2 keyboard.
And the keyboard collectors want "decent mechanical switches".
<https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12506.0>
And look at this page, and the 12th picture, for another Type 2 keyboard:
<http://www.9999hp.net/botnet/>
I have to wonder whether that is a sort of thing the keyboard collectors get up to.
-Frank McConnell
25 Feb
25 Feb
2:41 a.m.
On 2/24/18, 2:46 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Ian via cctalk"
<cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org on behalf of cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently, on a trip to Oregon, finally got a compatible ECL monitor for
my Sun 2. It came with a rather nice Sun 3/260, which I?d like to run as
well.
So I thought I?d put out a beg here- I?m so close to finishing this.
I need to shake loose a keyboard and mouse for a Sun 2.
Would anyone be willing to sell me one? I?m not expecting a handout; they
would be paid for and well loved.
On a related note, I?d love to run the 3/260 as well: What I?d like to do
for that is hunt down a Sun color framebuffer for it so I can use a more
common display. (and of course, enjoy the wonders of color).
I?m not sure what the options there are, but I have a nice scan converter
so just about any compatible color framebuffer will do. I can then
totally repurpose the monitor I?ve just found for my 2/120.
So, in the words of another immortal list member, ?advice hints ?????
Thanks in advance,
- I
id recommend either a CGtwo-VME 501-1014 or the 3rd party matrox vme for
the sun 3 series.
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