24 Feb
2018
24 Feb
'18
2:09 p.m.
I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies dealing with computers
The one in front of me is
"Once Upon a Punched Card"
I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
-pete
24 Feb
24 Feb
2:10 p.m.
I forgot, once done the physical media will be donated
-pete
On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com>
wrote:
I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies
dealing with computers
The one in front of me is
"Once Upon a Punched Card"
I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
-pete
2:24 p.m.
Pete - ?2 factors of ?course need ?to be addressed.... ?cost and ?quality
?
when it ?comes ?to quality ?there are ? some ?transfer machines that save each ?frame ?HD
as a still then re-assemble?as a ?video... but the converted still frames ?yield??some
?nice ?still photos ?for other purposes... ?Ed# ?www.smecc.org?
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In a message dated 2/24/2018 12:10:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
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I forgot, once done the physical media will be donated
-pete
On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com>
wrote:
I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies
dealing with computers
The one in front of me is
"Once Upon a Punched Card"
I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
-pete
3:16 p.m.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies
dealing with computers
The one in front of me is
"Once Upon a Punched Card"
I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
Digital telecine
If you don't need high quality, how much does Costco charge for their
"home movies" conversions?
'Course, if you want the best, you'd have to pay the prices for Monaco
Labs and Leo Diner Films.
https://www.cinesite.com/ ?
If you want to make your own digital Telecine hardware, . . .
In college, instead of the usual aiming a camera at the screen
(kinescope), I put extension tubes behind the lens on a C-mount video
camera (an added extension equal to the focal length of the lens will move
the focus from infinity to twice the focal length at 1:1) and shoved it
into the projector, in place of the projection lens. In those days, the
difference in frame-rate was the biggest problem (16(silent),18(super
8),24(sound) V 30/60,35/50); bizarre frame-skipping, frame doubling
algorithms were developed that don't need to be necessary for MP4.
You would probably want to go into the projector to add a switch to give
continuity on a wire timed to the film-gate, to single shot the camera
for digitizing, . . .
This guy was working on doing it with flat-bed scanner??
http://www.truetex.com/telecine.htm
3:23 p.m.
Hey Pete,
I can't speak to 16mm film transfer but www.digmypics.com did a fine job
for me on a huge assortment of print photos and VHS tapes.
=]
--
Anders Nelson
+1 (517) 775-6129
www.erogear.com
On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk
wrote:
I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of
movies dealing with computers
The one in front of me is
"Once Upon a Punched Card"
I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
Digital telecine
If you don't need high quality, how much does Costco charge for their
"home movies" conversions?
'Course, if you want the best, you'd have to pay the prices for Monaco
Labs and Leo Diner Films. https://www.cinesite.com/ ?
If you want to make your own digital Telecine hardware, . . . In college,
instead of the usual aiming a camera at the screen (kinescope), I put
extension tubes behind the lens on a C-mount video camera (an added
extension equal to the focal length of the lens will move the focus from
infinity to twice the focal length at 1:1) and shoved it into the
projector, in place of the projection lens. In those days, the difference
in frame-rate was the biggest problem (16(silent),18(super 8),24(sound)
V 30/60,35/50); bizarre frame-skipping, frame doubling algorithms were
developed that don't need to be necessary for MP4.
You would probably want to go into the projector to add a switch to give
continuity on a wire timed to the film-gate, to single shot the camera for
digitizing, . . .
This guy was working on doing it with flat-bed scanner??
http://www.truetex.com/telecine.htm
3:39 p.m.
Update:
cinesite.com is no longer Kodak's digitizing service.
Costco seems to want $0.13 per foot.
But I'm not sure whether they do SOUND.
3:57 p.m.
On Feb 24, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies
dealing with computers
The one in front of me is
"Once Upon a Punched Card"
I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
-pete
Hey Pete,
Might be worth checking to see if any of your titles have already been digitized. I know
Once Upon a Punch Card was loaded to YouTube a number of years ago (could be worth
checking with the uploader to see if they have a high quality version available if
you'd like a personal copy). Might save having to re-invent the wheel.
I like to pick up the occasional 16mm computer film off eBay for my own use, but I've
also converted a couple to digital using the low tech 'camera aimed at screen'
method. Actually, it was my iPhone on a tripod running software that allowed for frame
rate adjustment AND color shifting to take the red out of the film and boost the faded
hues. -Cory
4:35 p.m.
Cory - works ?best ?with ?a ?projector ?w/ 5 bladed shutter...
hard to ?find at the thrift? store ?alas...
?
I have ?some Honeywell computer?training ?films we need to ?digitize ?someday too..
also have a ?set of ?reels ?for Beginning or the ?End? ?the ?first doc-u-drama about the
Manhattan project that was ?dome right after the ?war ?I ?would??like ? shit ?to single
?frames. ?yea it is out ?on DVD?and on TCM sometimes but I want ?sharper stills?of a
family member that was in it.
?
We also have ?some of the old BELL system movies but many of those are ?utubed..
?
problem ?with the utubed stuff it ?is ?soft. and lo ?res ?and lousy If ?you want still ?
frames ?that look ?great.
?
Ed# ?www.smecc.org?
?
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In a message dated 2/24/2018 1:54:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
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Hey Pete,
Might be worth checking to see if any of your titles have already been digitized. I know
Once Upon a Punch Card was loaded to YouTube a number of years ago (could be worth
checking with the uploader to see if they have a high quality version available if
you'd like a personal copy). Might save having to re-invent the wheel.
I like to pick up the occasional 16mm computer film off eBay for my own use, but I've
also converted a couple to digital using the low tech 'camera aimed at screen'
method. Actually, it was my iPhone on a tripod running software that allowed for frame
rate adjustment AND color shifting to take the red out of the film and boost the faded
hues. -Cory
4:51 p.m.
Cory - works ?best ?with ?a ?projector ?w/ 5 bladed
shutter...
hard to ?find at the thrift? store ?alas...
Almost totally useless for THIS, I have a couple of Army training film
viewers to get rid of. A little screen, with a door to open if you want
to project. BUT, the unique part: they have no film gate! The film flows
continuously, without jerking, and there is a spinning polyhedronal mirror
instead. You can run extremely delicate films, or splice with masking
tape! Quality is mediocre, but condition is/was? good.
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