Very true, Pierre. It is a matter willingness to travel several hundreds of kilometers just to get something, but in the first instance it's of course a matter of luck. The years that the real old stuff was thrown out are gone. An 11/34 can be found with some patience, but the machines with many lights and switches are indeed becoming a "rare find". Edward and I travelled from The Netherlands to Italy to get two (!) 11/70's ... already some four years ago! We did not pay $1000 for the machines, but we both paid $400 for the truck rental. Almost the same, as in the end, your wallet is just as empty :-( - Henk. ________________________________ Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org namens Pierre Gebhardt Verzonden: ma 13-02-2006 18:26 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Onderwerp: Re: sexy PDP-11/44 panel (was: Re: Original 11/74 front panel) Well Henk, at least, you HAVE PDPs with a "lights and switches" console. Please think of those (I'm part of them!) who are eager to get one. 11/24 or 11/73s are nice, but unfortunately not the same. Today, it's almost impossible to get one...if you don't consider the possibility of buying one for a 1000$. THAT'S definitely the case for students like me. ... 11/74s are really cool! Thanks for that nice picture, Tim. Regards, Pierre This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.