http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=219 Speaking of the HP Vectra keyboard. This portable Vectra here has a *very* similar keyboard to the one that I was mentioned earlier in the keyboard thread. I'd imagine it's of the same ilk. Something about the design of these old "slab" portables has always been interesting to me. I know Dell has made a few "portables" post 2000 that are much larger and more of a "portable desktop replacement". I've seen them include somewhat-nicer keyboard with laptops to distinguish them (I'm thinkin' of the Thinkpad and some HP elite laptops). However, I haven't seen any modern machines ('cept luggables) that include "real" keyboards like this Vectra, Compaq, and others managed to do in the 80's. Also I love this photo. I could write 10 different short stories about what is *REALLY* going on this promotional photo: http://hpmuseum.net/images/VectraPortableCS_1987-PromoPhoto-60.jpg Manager = Blaine Jones Scientist = Janice Thornwinkle [Scene A] Blaine: Once I copy your research to this disk it'll prove that your research has no merit. We are probably going to shut the project down. Janice: Really sir?! We just about cured cancer here! [Scene B] Blaine: I just know you are going to spill some of that blue crap in those beakers on this new machine. I bet I can back up all your data on this floppy alone. Then I'm taking this laptop back to my office to watch porn. It's got CGA, after all. Janice: What? No. I never.. I mean... [Scene C] Blaine: Well, since this is your last day. I'll need a copy of that graph. Janice: Hmm? (I think I could kill him with this mechanical arm thing.) .... and so forth.... -Swift