A few days ago I was doing my usual scan of Weirdstuff's inventory and came across the following vintage Sun system: 1. Sun 386i. Looks clean - opened it up - memory and HDD controller present - no SCSI HDD. 2. Multiple Sun-4 systems, part number 600-2157-01, Model 247. OEMed and labeled "CADNET IX". I did not open them up - but look quite clean from the outside. If you are interested in any of these systems, email me privately and I'll give you the contact at Weirdstuff. Note: My only relationship with Weirdstuff is as a client and I do not receive compensation for any item I mention on this list. I do this to preserve vintage systems from being scrapped. Regards, Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"