6 Dec
2007
6 Dec
'07
1:52 a.m.
And a few things I've noticed about it are:
-- It says "digital" (lowercase like that) on the front. :-)
-- it has a third power supply connector to the MB, and that PS is rated to
ptu 33A (!) out on the +5
-- It has the CPU on a separate small daughterboard. A jumper there seems to
select speeds, up to maybe 100 or so. I have a 486dx2/66 chip in it at
present, which will run real flaky at 80, and not at all at 100. :-)
-- It has a _very_ loud beep when you power it up.
-- It wants only _parity_ ram -- there's no option in CMOS to disable that. I
have a couple of 16s and a couple of 4s in there at present, all the parity
parts I was able to scrounge. Anybody have some they might wanna trade?
-- Slots are ISA only, but they're _all_ 16-bit.
-- This thing's built like a tank!
I'd originally planned to put OS/2 in this box. Now I'm lots less enthused
about that OS than I was at one time, so I dunno what I'm gonna do with it.
Thoughts on this?
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6 Dec
6 Dec
12:53 p.m.
On 6 Dec 2007 at 1:52, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
I'd originally planned to put OS/2 in this box.
Now I'm lots less enthused
about that OS than I was at one time, so I dunno what I'm gonna do with it.
Thoughts on this?
Can you get a DX4/100 to run in the slot? There are versions of
Linux that will work; as well as other operating systems if you don't
like OS/2 (I do like it better than a lot of other operating
systems).
How about PC-MOS? MP/M-86 with GEM? UCSD Pascal?
Cheers,
Chuck
1 p.m.
In article <4757C67F.8640.85E6FB48 at cclist.sydex.com>,
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> writes:
How about PC-MOS? MP/M-86 with GEM? UCSD Pascal?
Aren't there some no-OS-required FORTH implementations you can use on
a bare x86 PC?
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6:23 p.m.
On Thursday 06 December 2007 13:00, Richard wrote:
In article <4757C67F.8640.85E6FB48 at
cclist.sydex.com>,
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> writes:
Hmm...
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How about PC-MOS? MP/M-86 with GEM? UCSD Pascal?
Aren't there some no-OS-required FORTH implementations you can use on
a bare x86 PC? 
8 Dec
8 Dec
12:28 p.m.
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
FORTH likes to *be* the OS. I have played a few implementations of
bare-metal FORTHs on PCs (under QEMU on a Mac) and most of them are
pretty nice.
-Dave
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"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> writes:
Hmm... How about PC-MOS? MP/M-86 with GEM? UCSD Pascal?
Aren't there some no-OS-required FORTH implementations you can use on
a bare x86 PC?
1:12 p.m.
On 8 Dec 2007 at 12:28, Dave McGuire wrote:
FORTH likes to *be* the OS. I have played a few
implementations of
bare-metal FORTHs on PCs (under QEMU on a Mac) and most of them are
pretty nice.
Off-list, I'd suggested ForthOS--a 32-bit standalone system:
http://www.forthos.org/
Looks like a good match to the machine.
Cheers,
Chuck
9 Dec
9 Dec
11:05 a.m.
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Yup, I've used ForthOS a little bit...it looks like a really nice
system. I hope to mess with it some more soon.
-Dave
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Port Charlotte, FL
FORTH likes
to *be* the OS. I have played a few implementations of
bare-metal FORTHs on PCs (under QEMU on a Mac) and most of them are
pretty nice.
Off-list, I'd suggested ForthOS--a 32-bit standalone system:
http://www.forthos.org/
Looks like a good match to the machine.
6 Dec
6 Dec
6:22 p.m.
On Thursday 06 December 2007 12:53, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 6 Dec 2007 at 1:52, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
Maybe. I was running a "5x86/133" in another box, I just need to figure out
what jumper setting would allow that one to work...
I'd originally planned to put OS/2 in this
box. Now I'm lots less
enthused about that OS than I was at one time, so I dunno what I'm gonna
do with it. Thoughts on this?
Can you get a DX4/100 to run in the slot? There are versions of Linux that will work; as well as
other operating
systems if you don't like OS/2 (I do like it better than a lot of other
operating systems).
It's not that I dislike OS/2, it's just that I'm not as fired up as I was
about it at one point. I have a copy of "Warp Connect Blue", which means
the networking stuff is included and you don't need DOS or Windows to get it
to run that software, but that's only version 3 and v4 was supposed to be
very different. Then there are all those fixpacks, not just for the OS
itself but for all this other stuff and I think those had to be applied in a
certain order, too. It made a lot of sense when I was still running my BBS,
since just about all of the software I was running also had OS/2 versions,
but I took that down a couple of years ago, and have no pressing need to run
DOS or win 3.1 type apps any more, so...
How about PC-MOS? MP/M-86 with GEM? UCSD Pascal?
Dunno why I'd want any of these -- they run any special apps? I'd like it
better if I could fill the RAM up, and also get the fastest CPU in there
that the box would support. But I'm in no hurry, either. :-)
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