2 May
2017
2 May
'17
5:21 p.m.
This might be a tempest or shielded vaxstation? Anyone speculate or
know for sure.
The vendor may have these mixed in as equivalent to their other
vaxstations. If you search for "DEC vax VS42A-BN"
you end up back at the vendors listing for the ones with plastic
covers. I didn't turn up any info yet, not hoping to.
but the thing has what appears to be optical, and a huge connector which
may be shielded SCSI on the back.
I can't tell from the front, but there may be a hatch to allow it to be
opened and a floppy inserted, not sure from
the photos.
VINTAGE-RARE-DEC-DIGITAL-VAXSTATION-3100-PF-VS42A-AA-RF-VS42A-BN-COMPUTER-SYSTEM/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370930391341
Kind of an interesting device.
I looped back into the vendors listings to this auction for the plastic
topped version, by the way
VINTAGE-DEC-DIGITAL-VT1300-VAXSTATION-VS42A-BB-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-VT-1300-TERMINAL/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370912245260
It is badged VT-1300 so may not be a vaxstation. And the other box may
be one of the VT-1300's
that is tempest or shielded.
thanks
Jim
2 May
2 May
5:38 p.m.
I keep meaning to stop by the guy's shop in MD and check out some of his DEC stuff.
From what I can tell, this isn't TEMPEST shielding, but RF shielding for e.g. lab
situations that require a low RF noise floor. It's probably effectively the same as
TEMPEST in practice, but seems to lack the gov't certification.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Tue, 2 May 2017 17:21:28 -0700
jim stephens via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
This might be a tempest or shielded vaxstation? Anyone speculate or
know for sure.
The vendor may have these mixed in as equivalent to their other
vaxstations. If you search for "DEC vax VS42A-BN"
you end up back at the vendors listing for the ones with plastic
covers. I didn't turn up any info yet, not hoping to.
but the thing has what appears to be optical, and a huge connector which
may be shielded SCSI on the back.
I can't tell from the front, but there may be a hatch to allow it to be
opened and a floppy inserted, not sure from
the photos.
VINTAGE-RARE-DEC-DIGITAL-VAXSTATION-3100-PF-VS42A-AA-RF-VS42A-BN-COMPUTER-SYSTEM/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370930391341
Kind of an interesting device.
I looped back into the vendors listings to this auction for the plastic
topped version, by the way
VINTAGE-DEC-DIGITAL-VT1300-VAXSTATION-VS42A-BB-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-VT-1300-TERMINAL/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370912245260
It is badged VT-1300 so may not be a vaxstation. And the other box may
be one of the VT-1300's
that is tempest or shielded.
thanks
Jim
5:45 p.m.
On 5/2/2017 5:38 PM, Systems Glitch via cctalk wrote:
I keep meaning to stop by the guy's shop in MD
Please provide photos and info if you would. They have a lot of stuff.
I'm interested in whether this is a wound down
or ongoing Dec material operation, or the operation of an e waste recycler.
Vendor name on ebay is EFI. May have other aliases.
thanks
Jim
7:55 p.m.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:21 PM, jim stephens via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
VINTAGE-DEC-DIGITAL-VT1300-VAXSTATION-VS42A-BB-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-VT-1300-TERMINAL/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370912245260
It is badged VT-1300 so may not be a vaxstation. And the other box may be
one of the VT-1300's
that is tempest or shielded.
A VT1300 is a VAXstation 3100 M30 KA42-A CPU in a BA42-A box but
without the SCSI interface and internal hard disk shelf mounting
hardware. It might also have different firmware than a standard VS3100
M30. It is meant to net boot the X Window System server software. I
have a VT1300 (and a couple of VXT2000) that I haven't powered on in a
while.
-Glen
10 May
10 May
1:12 p.m.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
A VT1300 is a VAXstation 3100 M30 KA42-A CPU in a
BA42-A box but
without the SCSI interface and internal hard disk shelf mounting
hardware. It might also have different firmware than a standard VS3100
M30. It is meant to net boot the X Window System server software. I
have a VT1300 (and a couple of VXT2000) that I haven't powered on in a
while.
Is the software for this still around someplace? I had it at one time,
but didn't have a monitor, keyboard or mouse. Now I have everything
but the software.
-chuck
3:26 p.m.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Charles Dickman <chd at chdickman.com> wrote:
Is the software for this still around someplace? I had it at one time,
but didn't have a monitor, keyboard or mouse. Now I have everything
but the software.
-chuck
The VXT software is included in the InfoServer software which is
included the OpenVMS Freeware Distribution, V8, Disk1.
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms/FREEWARE80_1.ZIP
Inside the infoserver.zip file which is inside the infoserver directory:
ag-pjjhh-be.img - VTX Software V2.1 CD-ROM image
The current HP website makes it difficult to find OpenVMS freeware
packages. I wouldn't be surprised if these files vanished at some
point. Hope they are archived elsewhere.
9:37 p.m.
The VXT software is included in the InfoServer
software which is
included the OpenVMS Freeware Distribution, V8, Disk1.
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms/FREEWARE80_1.ZIP
Inside the infoserver.zip file which is inside the infoserver directory:
ag-pjjhh-be.img - VTX Software V2.1 CD-ROM image
Just to refresh my memory about the VXT software, I started a OpenVMS
session on a SIMH VAX and mounted the ag-pjjhh-be.img image as an
RRD40 CD-ROM to take a look at its contents.
It contains a saveset that you can install on an OpenVMS host using
VMSINSTAL, along with documentation in PostScript format. I converted
those documents into PDF files. I forget if I ever uploaded them
anywhere.
There are also files on the ag-pjjhh-be.img image that can be
installed on an InfoServer using UPDATE. If you do have an InfoServer
there are some things you can do with that that you can't do with the
OpenVMS host VXT software installation.
$ dir dua1:[vxt021...]*.*;* /columns=1
Directory DUA1:[VXT021]
KIT.DIR;1
LINE_DOCS.DIR;1
POST_DOCS.DIR;1
Total of 3 files.
Directory DUA1:[VXT021.KIT]
VXT021.A;1
VXT021.B;1
VXT021.C;1
VXT021.D;1
VXT021.E;1
Total of 5 files.
Directory DUA1:[VXT021.LINE_DOCS]
VXT021.RELEASE_NOTES;1
Total of 1 file.
Directory DUA1:[VXT021.POST_DOCS]
VXT021_RELEASE_NOTES.PS;1
VXT_GETTING_STARTED_DE.PS;1
VXT_GETTING_STARTED_EN.PS;1
VXT_GETTING_STARTED_ES.PS;1
VXT_GETTING_STARTED_FR.PS;1
VXT_GETTING_STARTED_IT.PS;1
VXT_GETTING_STARTED_NL.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_APPENDIX.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_DEC_OSF1_AXP.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_HP-UX.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_IBM_AIX.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_INDEX.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_INFOSERVER.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_OPENVMS.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_OVERVIEW.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_SCO_ODT.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_SUNOS.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_ULTRIX.PS;1
VXT_SYSMAN_INSTALL_USING_CONFIG_MANAGER.PS;1
VXT_USER_GUIDE.PS;1
Total of 20 files.
Grand total of 4 directories, 29 files.
$ dir DUA1:[SYSD.SYSEXE...]*.*;* /columns=1
Directory DUA1:[SYSD.SYSEXE]
ESS$VXT_V2.DAT;1
VXT.PWD;1
VXT021.SYS;1
VXTEX020A.SYS;1
VXTLDR021.SYS;1
VXT_G_.XRM;1
VXT_INFOREADER_021.LIBRARY;1
VXT_IR_GETTING_STARTED_DE_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_GETTING_STARTED_EN_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_GETTING_STARTED_ES_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_GETTING_STARTED_FR_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_GETTING_STARTED_IT_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_GETTING_STARTED_NL_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_INFOSERVER_OPS_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SOFTWARE_RELNOTES_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_APPENDIX_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_CONFIGMAN_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_HP_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_IBM_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_INFOSERVER_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_OSF_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_OVERVIEW_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_SCO_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_SUN_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_ULTRIX_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_SYSMAN_VMS_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_USER_INFO_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_IR_USING_INFOREADER_021.DECW$BOOK;1
VXT_V2_1.FNT;1
VXT_VER_021.DAT;1
Total of 30 files.
3 Feb
3 Feb
12:38 p.m.
New subject: RX02 problem
Do we have any real RX02 experts?? My long time running
RX02 seems to have decided to go on strike.? When I try to
access it now it repeatedly loads and unloads the heads but
never reads anything.? I can usually break out of it with
control-C.? Attempts to boot from it have the same effect.
Anybody else ever see this behavior?
Oh yeah, I know the controllers are good as I also have an
AK6DN emulator and it works (well up to a point, but that's
a problem for another message.? :-)
bill
2:26 p.m.
New subject: RX02 problem
On 02/03/2018 03:38 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Do we have any real RX02 experts?? My long time
running
RX02 seems to have decided to go on strike.? When I try to
access it now it repeatedly loads and unloads the heads but
never reads anything.? I can usually break out of it with
control-C.? Attempts to boot from it have the same effect.
Anybody else ever see this behavior?
Oh yeah, I know the controllers are good as I also have an
AK6DN emulator and it works (well up to a point, but that's
a problem for another message.? :-)
bill
HI,
Assuming you haven't killed the media either the heads are crudded up
or the cable is partially disconnected.
FYI if the heads are crudded up the media with have a circular scratch
generally in the directory or boot areas (outer edges).? That kills the
media for reading that area.
FYI like everyone I use Isopropanal-91% for cleaning but fpr the
difficult jobs
either xylene(hard to find) or MEK (Methyl-Ethel-keytone)? for the
really stiff
stuff piles as they can dissolve binder.
Allison
2:42 p.m.
New subject: RX02 problem
On 02/03/2018 05:26 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
On 02/03/2018 03:38 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
Ah ha.? I suspect the cable is bad.? I had to repair it once and
I now suspect it is gone bad yet again.? Wonder if I have another
cable that size floating around here somewhere.
Do we have any real RX02 experts?? My long time
running
RX02 seems to have decided to go on strike.? When I try to
access it now it repeatedly loads and unloads the heads but
never reads anything.? I can usually break out of it with
control-C.? Attempts to boot from it have the same effect.
Anybody else ever see this behavior?
Oh yeah, I know the controllers are good as I also have an
AK6DN emulator and it works (well up to a point, but that's
a problem for another message.? :-)
bill
HI,
Assuming you haven't killed the media either the heads are crudded up
or the cable is partially disconnected.
FYI if the heads are crudded up the media with have a circular scratch
generally in the directory or boot areas (outer edges).? That kills the
media for reading that area.
While possible I would expect that to develop slowly and this was sudden
like.
Thanks.
bill
16 Feb
16 Feb
4:50 p.m.
New subject: RX02 problem
On 02/03/2018 05:42 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 02/03/2018 05:26 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
Well, I made a new cable for my RX02.? No luck.? Any attempt
to access either drive just results in the rapid loading and
unloading of the head.? Happens when I try to boot them
or try to get a DIR after booting from the harddisk.
Anybody have any suggestions other than the RXes have
bit the farm?
bill
On 02/03/2018 03:38 PM, Bill Gunshannon via
cctalk wrote:
Ah ha.? I suspect the cable is bad.? I had
to repair it once and
I now suspect it is gone bad yet again.? Wonder if I have another
cable that size floating around here somewhere.
Do we have any real RX02 experts?? My long time
running
RX02 seems to have decided to go on strike.? When I try to
access it now it repeatedly loads and unloads the heads but
never reads anything.? I can usually break out of it with
control-C.? Attempts to boot from it have the same effect.
Anybody else ever see this behavior?
Oh yeah, I know the controllers are good as I also have an
AK6DN emulator and it works (well up to a point, but that's
a problem for another message.? :-)
bill
HI,
Assuming you haven't killed the media either the heads are crudded up
or the cable is partially disconnected. FYI if the heads are crudded up the media with
have a circular scratch
generally in the directory or boot areas (outer edges).? That kills the
media for reading that area.
While possible I would expect that to develop slowly
and this was sudden
like.
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