I've never seen one. I've been looking for one for a long time as well, and I've never seen one for sale anywhere (eBay or otherwise). I somehow doubt that a whole lot of them survived, they were pretty early, and would have been probably made obsolete by even the ADM3A. Right up there with other unobtanium terminals like Beehive, Soroc, and the Ann Arbor Ambassador. I'd put the Tektronix 4010 on the list too, except I know that at least one of those exists :) -Ian

Richard wrote: Been meaning to ask about a Soroc. I know they're subject to screen rot, but would that be visible with the terminal powered down? Are they really unobtainium? Doc

In article <ded268c40712091038offab0fbg2bc611169d5c55b7 at mail.gmail.com>, "Paxton Hoag" <innfoclassics at gmail.com> writes: I had to outbid other Crommeco collectors for the Beehive. $350. For the Tektronix 4010/4014 that I got -- well they were free! I had a post out on comp.terminals looking for one of these and for a while there if you googled "Tektronix 4010" (or 4014), my post would be in the first page of results (alas, no longer) and the guy contacted me. He was in Denver and I drove out there to haul them back from his storage. He even let me crash at his house instead of getting a hotel, a very nice guy. The 4014 is in near mint condition. It turns out it was one of the very last ones purchased by his company right before they discontinued support for the 4014. So it sat in his company's storage for 10+ years. Then he rescued it from his company and stored it for another 10+ years. Then I rescued it from him :-). -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

In article <200712091555.19523.rtellason at verizon.net>, "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> writes: As we have discussed many times, the prices on ebay are not a necessarily reliable indicator of value. But yes, I had to pay that much to win that auction. If you auction yours, will it command 350? I don't know. I think I'm about the only person actively *looking* for a beehive terminal. Just another demonstration of how, even in a bunch of "odd" people, I will still be "odder" :-). I've noticed that when a seller on ebay has quantity 4 of the exact same item, that when they auction them off one at a time, the first one tends to command a hefty pricetag, then 2nd not so much, the 3rd less, and so-on. So if you only have 1, and there's sufficient demand, then the price tends to be a little spikey. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

I doubt the scrap got anything like $350 for a BeeHive. I doubt there was more than $20 all to gether in metal in one. I'd gladly pay $50 for a working BeeHive, especially if it had the Intel blue paint. Dwight _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007

Peter C. Wallace wrote: They did indeed. In an era of model 33s the boxy 2000 with the equally boxy detached keyboard was Really Very Cool. I seem to recall that one had to be careful about power cycling them too quickly as they'd eat HOTs if you did. I remember the Ann Arbor Ambassador as well. The novelty of lower case characters (with descenders, as I recall) in a case that made the adm 3a look like the pig that it was. -- Chris Kennedy chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP http://www.mainecoon.com PGP KeyID 108DAB97 PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97 "Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration..."

Richard wrote: Horizontal output transistors. 2N3055 IIRC. -- Chris Kennedy chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP http://www.mainecoon.com PGP KeyID 108DAB97 PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97 "Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration..."

On Sunday 09 December 2007 15:54, Chris Kennedy wrote: They used one of those for a HOT? Wow. I'd not have expected that, with the ratings on that part. Most of those have *way* higher voltage ratings... -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

I asume 'Horizontal Output Transistor' (which we call the 'Line Output Transistor' in the UK). A power transsitor that drives the horizontal deflection coils and the flyback trasnformer. -tony

Mr Ian Primus wrote: Richard wrote: Hindsight says I should have picked up a couple of Ambassadors when I saw them at the University surplus in the mid-90s. (They all came from the lab I used to work in, I probably could have found 'my' unit that I spent a good portion of the 80's sitting in front of (where was my sense of nostalgia?).)