23 Apr
2012
23 Apr
'12
2:24 p.m.
The 2 HP 2100's from GovLiquidation arrived a few weeks ago in
incredible shape (after waiting some 8 weeks for DLA to decide I'm OK
to acquire a weapon system component.....) Anyway, for anyone
interested. there's another one listed - this time in Oklahoma. The
title shows it as an "HP 21005 microprogramming systems computer" but
it's clearly the HP 2100s mini in the photos!
Event ID is 10728
Item No is 1510
Unit appears in good shape and already has a heavy duty shipping carton.
23 Apr
23 Apr
5:01 p.m.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM, steve shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
The 2 HP 2100's from GovLiquidation arrived a few
weeks ago in incredible
shape ?(after waiting some 8 weeks for DLA to decide I'm OK to acquire a
weapon system component.....) ? ?Anyway, for anyone interested. there's
I take it from the word "arrived" that GovLiq does shipping? I
thought at one time they were local pick-up only.
How has your experience been with them? I have watched items there
now and then but have never made an account to bid.
--
jht
5:27 p.m.
As far as I'm aware, Gov Liquidation never does shipping.. There are
links on the G/L website for shippers that are "associated". Clicking
the primary shipping link on the G/L site takes you to a list of
shippers organized by locations. Those links take you to an individual
commercial shipper web site that is more or less familiar with the G/L
auction process. Bidders are free to select any shipper willing to go
do pack and ship on a gov't installation. The biggies that have been
discussed here in various threads are Craters and Freighters and
FastTrack Logistics. Both seem to use local shippers as on site reps
except for the larger sites. I've used both with "reasonable" success
- again, there's been discussions of those and others here and YMMV!
The comment about the wait involved a requirement that I'd not dealt
with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in
question is prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That
process took 8 wks. Once completed, G/L releases the item to the
shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in 10 days.
steve
On 4/23/2012 5:01 PM, Jason T wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM, steve
shumaker<shumaker at att.net> wrote
The 2 HP 2100's from GovLiquidation arrived a
few weeks ago in incredible
shape (after waiting some 8 weeks for DLA to decide I'm OK to acquire a
weapon system component.....) Anyway, for anyone interested. there's
I take it from the word "arrived" that GovLiq does shipping? I
thought at one time they were local pick-up only.
How has your experience been with them? I have watched items there
now and then but have never made an account to bid.
5:40 p.m.
On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:27 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
The comment about the wait involved a requirement that
I'd not dealt with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in question is
prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That process took 8 wks. Once
completed, G/L releases the item to the shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in
10 days.
There was some scary language in their EULA about "Demil B and Q"
items having a requirement to be "mutilated beyond reasonable hope of
recovery", which was a horrifying phrase (worse, they wanted to be
there and watch while you did it, the sick bastards). Is that only
for items designated for scrap?
- Dave
7:25 p.m.
On 4/23/2012 5:40 PM, David Riley wrote:
On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:27 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
Apparently so.. ISTR something like that in the past - certainly this
was the first time I've actually bid on a Q item. So it would seem
that they are now offering stuff without the destruction rqmt. This
latest auction seems to be all Demil Q stuff.
The really strange thing about all this excursion into govt surplus is
the stuff they apparently still carry as critical weapons technology...
an HP 2100 minicomp? that's like the recent discussion about the
missile guidance computers... our govmnt at work!
steve
The comment about the wait involved a requirement
that I'd not dealt with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA
does a background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in question is
prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That process took 8 wks. Once
completed, G/L releases the item to the shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in
10 days.
There was some scary language in their EULA about "Demil B and Q"
items having a requirement to be "mutilated beyond reasonable hope of
recovery", which was a horrifying phrase (worse, they wanted to be
there and watch while you did it, the sick bastards). Is that only
for items designated for scrap?
- Dave
8:29 p.m.
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:25 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
The really strange thing about all this excursion into
govt surplus is the stuff they apparently still carry as critical weapons technology...
an HP 2100 minicomp? that's like the recent discussion about the missile guidance
computers... our govmnt at work!
I think it's a very literal implementation of the "If it ain't
broke, don't fix it" mentality. For all the money and power it
may be wasting running our weapons on ancient machines, just
think of all the money and manpower they waste when they try to
*update* these systems (look at the sad state of the attempts to
update our air traffic control system if you want an example).
- Dave
9:03 p.m.
After looking at the picture in the auction could that be a never used
2100 in the original box ? That must be a pretty rare beast if so.
Museum piece for sure. It looks brand new and the military doesn't tend
to keep boxes around for stuff once it is out of them.
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=5180299&convertTo=USD
On 4/23/2012 8:29 PM, David Riley wrote:
I think it's a very literal implementation of the
"If it ain't broke,
don't fix it" mentality. For all the money and power it may be wasting
running our weapons on ancient machines, just think of all the money
and manpower they waste when they try to *update* these systems (look
at the sad state of the attempts to update our air traffic control
system if you want an example). - Dave
9:39 p.m.
On 23 Apr 2012, at 9:03 PM, mc68010 wrote:
After looking at the picture in the auction could that
be a never used 2100 in the original box ? That must be a pretty rare beast if so. Museum
piece for sure. It looks brand new and the military doesn't tend to keep boxes around
for stuff once it is out of them.
There's military and there's military. Stuff that was destined for something like
the NSWL that just ended up in inventory would likely still be in its box.
I find it mildly amusing that a 2100S microprogrammable machine is being describes as a
"21005 microprogramming system"
--
Dr. Christian Kennedy
chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP
http://www.mainecoon.com PGP KeyID 108DAB97
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
"Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration..."
9:58 p.m.
Even in that bad picture it looks like it's brand new. Even labs don't
often put things back in boxes in my experience. It would have been a
new spare in inventory even if it was taken out a couple times to
inspect. Still pretty amazing after all these years. Bet there is all
sorts of similar stuff sitting in dark government storerooms and
warehouses.
On 4/23/2012 9:39 PM, Christian Kennedy wrote:
There's military and there's military. Stuff
that was destined for
something like the NSWL that just ended up in inventory would likely
still be in its box.
9:50 p.m.
On 23 Apr 2012, at 8:29 PM, David Riley wrote:
I think it's a very literal implementation of the
"If it ain't
broke, don't fix it" mentality. For all the money and power it
may be wasting running our weapons on ancient machines, just
think of all the money and manpower they waste when they try to
*update* these systems (look at the sad state of the attempts to
update our air traffic control system if you want an example).
The ATC upgrade is a very good example; the earlier attempts were fairly successful thanks
to emulation of the old hardware (first 3083 BX1 machines replaced in turn by 9672 RA4
machines both of which ran the original 9020/System 360 assembly code in emulation mode);
it wasn't until they actually started trying to deploy something entirely new that it
turned into a huge money pit. That lesson is a large part of why the GSE remanufacturing
sector prefers to replace obsolete computing platforms with emulators and hardware support
for systems-specific interface cards; they can use the same software and, if the gods
smile upon them, the same interface hardware while dispensing with the unsupported
computer in the middle of it all.
--
Dr. Christian Kennedy
chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP
http://www.mainecoon.com PGP KeyID 108DAB97
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
"Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration..."
9:35 p.m.
On 23 Apr 2012, at 7:25 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
[snip]
The really strange thing about all this excursion into govt surplus is the stuff they
apparently still carry as critical weapons technology... an HP 2100 minicomp? that's
like the recent discussion about the missile guidance computers... our govmnt at work!
Actually, it's probably not critical weapons technology as in "it is part of a
weapons system"'; a large number of 2100 series machines wound up in inspection,
test and repair systems that were used to *support* weapons systems. A lot of these
things are staring to spill out onto the surplus market because they're being replaced
by software emulators backed up by hardware that allows existing custom hardware to be
used with the PC-based emulator. I've personally seen hardware that supports HP
cards, DG Nova bus cards and ones that implement ROLM's version of the Nova bus in
remanufactured ground support and test equipment.
--
Dr. Christian Kennedy
chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP
http://www.mainecoon.com PGP KeyID 108DAB97
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
"Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration..."
24 Apr
24 Apr
11:20 a.m.
On 04/23/2012 10:25 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
The really strange thing about all this excursion into
govt surplus is
the stuff they apparently still carry as critical weapons technology...
an HP 2100 minicomp? that's like the recent discussion about the
missile guidance computers... our govmnt at work!
If it's old, it's bad, and if it's not new, it's old?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
11:24 a.m.
On 4/24/2012 11:20 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 04/23/2012 10:25 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
that pretty much covers everything.....
steve
The really strange thing about all this excursion
into govt surplus is
the stuff they apparently still carry as critical weapons technology...
an HP 2100 minicomp? that's like the recent discussion about the
missile guidance computers... our govmnt at work!
If it's old, it's bad, and if it's not new, it's old?
-Dave
12:20 p.m.
The comment about the wait involved a requirement that
I'd not dealt
with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in
question is prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That
process took 8 wks. Once completed, G/L releases the item to the
shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in 10 days.
Are you saying there are export restrictions on an HP2100A? I hate to say
this, but there are plenty of them outside the States....
-tony
1:35 p.m.
Are you saying there are export restrictions on an
HP2100A? I hate
to say this, but there are plenty of them outside the States....
Export restrictions have rarely had anything to do with sense.
Consider the days when crypto developed outside the USA (eg, IDEA),
once imported, couldn't be re-exported again - or at least not without
a lot of annoying paperwork.
Head-in-the-sand at its finest.
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1:39 p.m.
On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
It sounds more like there are export restrictions on *this* HP2100S.
Presumably it had confidential military data on it, though if it is
in fact NIB, that would surprise me. My guess is that it's just
easier for them to assume there's data on it that shouldn't be
exported than to make a mistake and export it.
- Dave
The comment
about the wait involved a requirement that I'd not dealt
with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in
question is prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That
process took 8 wks. Once completed, G/L releases the item to the
shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in 10 days.
Are you saying there are export restrictions on an HP2100A? I hate to say
this, but there are plenty of them outside the States....
3:21 p.m.
On 4/24/2012 1:39 PM, David Riley wrote:
On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
It sounds more like there are export restrictions on *this* HP2100S.
Presumably it had confidential military data on it, though if it is
in fact NIB, that would surprise me. My guess is that it's just
easier for them to assume there's data on it that shouldn't be
exported than to make a mistake and export it.
- Dave
That might perhaps be the case although I suspect not. My
understanding of the Demil process is that the DRMO people look up the
NSN in their monster database. If they find a match they use the data
to make disposition decisions. If the NSN for this item was never
removed from the restricted category, then it will show up yet today as
a export controlled item - and get a Demil Q code on the auction.
Steve
The
comment about the wait involved a requirement that I'd not dealt
with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in
question is prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That
process took 8 wks. Once completed, G/L releases the item to the
shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in 10 days.
Are you saying there are export restrictions on an HP2100A? I hate to say
this, but there are plenty of them outside the States....
3:10 p.m.
tis 2012-04-24 klockan 20:20 +0100 skrev Tony Duell:
Be happy that your gov will sell equipment on the 2nd hand market !!
Here in Sweden very little from F?rsvarsmakten including spare equipment
gets out into the 2nd hand market.
Almost every corporation and most in the gov sector sends disused
computers to the SCRAPPERS and later it ends up in R?nnsk?r (a large
gold melting operation)
Personally i live outside of Sk?vde and what do we find here ??
VOLVO who was a big Digital customer (Sk?vde makes car and truck engines
for the world market.)
Nothing of what they decommission gets out into the 2nd hand market. (a
lot of VAX and PDP machines from PDP 11/70 thru VAXserver 4000.)
Completely invisible....
The comment
about the wait involved a requirement that I'd not dealt
with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in
question is prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That
process took 8 wks. Once completed, G/L releases the item to the
shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in 10 days.
Are you saying there are export restrictions on an HP2100A? I hate to say
this, but there are plenty of them outside the States....
-tony
3:17 p.m.
On 4/24/2012 12:20 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
I don't know about the "A" model - this one was an
"S"and yes, it is
still export restricted - that's the definition of a Demil Q class item
Steve
The comment
about the wait involved a requirement that I'd not dealt
with before - namely that of an EUC or End User Certificate. DLA does a
background check to validate that you are a US citizen when the item in
question is prohibited from sale to a foreign national (Demil Q). That
process took 8 wks. Once completed, G/L releases the item to the
shipper. FastTrack shipped it from OH to CA in 10 days.
Are you saying there are export restrictions on an HP2100A? I hate to say
this, but there are plenty of them outside the States....
-tony
25 Apr
25 Apr
11:41 a.m.
I don't know about the "A" model - this
one was an "S"and yes, it is
still export restricted - that's the definition of a Demil Q class item
Well, _this_ one has export restrictions from what you are saying, I
doubt all 2100S's do.
IIRC the techncial manuals and probably schematics for the machine are
availalbe on th web with no restrictions (and with the blessign of HP).
If there was really somethign secret about the machine itslef, the
manuals would be a much quicker way to discover it.
My guess is that, as others ahve said, it's a typicla government
regulation...
-tony
30 Apr
30 Apr
11:46 a.m.
So, is this auction for a potentially viable 2100S or is there some reason that it
wouldn't be a good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Tony Duell
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:41 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: another HP2100 on govliquidation
I don't know about the "A" model - this
one was an "S"and yes, it is
still export restricted - that's the definition of a Demil Q class item
Well, _this_ one has export restrictions from what you are saying, I
doubt all 2100S's do.
IIRC the techncial manuals and probably schematics for the machine are
availalbe on th web with no restrictions (and with the blessign of HP).
If there was really somethign secret about the machine itslef, the
manuals would be a much quicker way to discover it.
My guess is that, as others ahve said, it's a typicla government
regulation...
-tony
12:10 p.m.
On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Bob Brown wrote:
So, is this auction for a potentially viable 2100S or
is there some reason that it wouldn't be a good buy?
Should be good to run, assuming you are a US citizen. Looks like it's
basically NOS, but has probably been sitting in its box since its
initial checkout, so there may be some "bit rot" or cap degradation,
etc.
- Dave
12:17 p.m.
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown <bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
From: Bob Brown <bbrown at harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
1 May
1 May
6 a.m.
Any idea what it may cost to ship this to the Chicago area?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Bob Rosenbloom
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:18 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown <bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
From: Bob Brown <bbrown at harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
6:47 a.m.
On 5/1/2012 9:00 AM, Bob Brown wrote:
Any idea what it may cost to ship this to the Chicago
area?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Rosenbloom
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:18 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown<bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
pkg weight was 140lb for the unit I obtained. prep and shipping from
Columbus OH to Santa Cruz CA was ~$200 per unit.
steve
From: Bob Brown<bbrown at
harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"<cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
#### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
9:55 a.m.
Which shipping company did you use? Were you happy with it?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of steve shumaker
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:47 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: another HP2100 on govliquidation
On 5/1/2012 9:00 AM, Bob Brown wrote:
Any idea what it may cost to ship this to the Chicago
area?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Rosenbloom
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:18 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown<bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
pkg weight was 140lb for the unit I obtained. prep and shipping from
Columbus OH to Santa Cruz CA was ~$200 per unit.
steve
From: Bob Brown<bbrown at
harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"<cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
#### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
10:12 a.m.
On 5/1/2012 12:55 PM, Bob Brown wrote:
Which shipping company did you use? Were you happy
with it?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of steve shumaker
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:47 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: another HP2100 on govliquidation
On 5/1/2012 9:00 AM, Bob Brown wrote:
I used Fast Track Logistics - quite satisfied with the service.
steve
Any idea what it may cost to ship this to the
Chicago area?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Rosenbloom
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:18 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown<bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
pkg weight was 140lb for the unit I obtained. prep and shipping from
Columbus OH to Santa Cruz CA was ~$200 per unit.
steve
From: Bob Brown<bbrown at
harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"<cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
#### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
11:45 a.m.
Was yours similar to the one currently for sale? Was it as clean as the pictures show?
Did yours include the core and all the boards?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of steve shumaker
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:47 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: another HP2100 on govliquidation
On 5/1/2012 9:00 AM, Bob Brown wrote:
Any idea what it may cost to ship this to the Chicago
area?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
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From:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Rosenbloom
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:18 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown<bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
pkg weight was 140lb for the unit I obtained. prep and shipping from
Columbus OH to Santa Cruz CA was ~$200 per unit.
steve
From: Bob Brown<bbrown at
harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"<cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
#### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
4:31 p.m.
On 5/1/2012 2:45 PM, Bob Brown wrote:
Was yours similar to the one currently for sale? Was
it as clean as the pictures show? Did yours include the core and all the boards?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of steve shumaker
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:47 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: another HP2100 on govliquidation
On 5/1/2012 9:00 AM, Bob Brown wrote:
My units appear identical to this one. Systems were not as new
looking as this one although a lot of that can be attributed to "shelf
wear" on the boxes... Both units have core memory in them but one
has significantly more cards installed (almost the entire cage is
loaded). I'd hazard a guess that these were actually used and pulled
Any idea what it may cost to ship this to the
Chicago area?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Rosenbloom
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:18 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Bob Brown<bbrown at harpercollege.edu> wrote:
pkg weight was 140lb for the unit I obtained. prep and shipping from
Columbus OH to Santa Cruz CA was ~$200 per unit.
steve
From: Bob Brown<bbrown at
harpercollege.edu>
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"<cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
So, is this auction for a potentially
viable 2100S or is there some reason that it wouldn't be a
good buy?
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu
#### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Supervisor of
Operations
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by
grace
The thing I noticed is the power cord is stored in the unit. Must be
taking up quite a bit of space as it's a think, long cable. I'd be
worried that some boards are missing, or if your lucky, it just
has no I/O cards. Worst case, the cord is stored where the core
memory was.
Bob
from an operational environment. Both appear intact but
without a list
of what was considered a "standard" card load, it's
hard to tell which
one is the more "typical." I've not had an opportunity to remove,
catalog and photograph either unit yet so I don't have a way to compare
them.
IMHO, my guess is that this latest one is probably a pretty good score.
Just remember though that Govliquidation urges you to inspect the goods
for a reason!
Steve
5:17 p.m.
Interesting. Went for $640.00. Anyone gonna fess up? All the paperwork and warnings
scared me off from even trying although I coulda made a road trip (roughly the same value
as the price to ship it though).
2 May
2 May
6:24 a.m.
I tried but got outbid.
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Sam Onella
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:17 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: another HP2100 on govliquidation
Interesting. Went for $640.00. Anyone gonna fess up? All the paperwork and warnings
scared me off from even trying although I coulda made a road trip (roughly the same value
as the price to ship it though).
23 Apr
23 Apr
5:28 p.m.
In article <CAEfH1SHYFkA_--A+5v_Q7Pa6RnKcQAVz5dOoCjb3wxG9ASNCWw at mail.gmail.com>,
Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> writes:
I take it from the word "arrived" that
GovLiq does shipping? I
thought at one time they were local pick-up only.
govliquidation does not offer shipping directly, but will put you in
touch with service bureas at their location(s) that will pick up and
ship for you.
How has your experience been with them? I have
watched items there
now and then but have never made an account to bid.
I have purchased several items from them and been satisfied, but as
always, it pays to read the fine print in the sales agreement. They
reserve the right to demand that you return stuff you purchased from
them.
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