21 Dec
1999
21 Dec
'99
5:56 a.m.
Anyone know where I can get my hands on an emulator of an IBM 360/370?
Always wanted to meet one, and I'm curious. (Taking a shortish rest from
working on the '10. I'm into paging and such now and it's giving me fits.)
Failing that, anyone know where to get documentation so I can hack one up
after I'm done fighting with E10?
Altavista search turns up junk matches (resumes and such) and a couple
emulators that have disappeared.
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21 Dec
21 Dec
6:24 a.m.
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
Anyone know where I can get my hands on an emulator of
an IBM 360/370?
Always wanted to meet one, and I'm curious. (Taking a shortish rest from
working on the '10. I'm into paging and such now and it's giving me fits.)
Failing that, anyone know where to get documentation so I can hack one up
after I'm done fighting with E10?
Altavista search turns up junk matches (resumes and such) and a couple
emulators that have disappeared.
Try http://www.snipix.freeserve.co.uk/hercules.htm for an in-progress
370/390 emulator. You can also download a 3330 DASD image ("DASD" = IBM's
term for hard disk - "Direct Access Storage Device") containing a mimimal
OS/360 MFT installation from the FAQ page there.
Documentation? You want documentation? We got documentation.
Manual Part # Price
------ ------ -----
S/360 Principles of Operation GA22-6821-08 $ 8.40
S/370 Principles of Operation GA22-7000-10 $11.25
370/XA Principles of Operation SA22-7085-01 $33.50
ESA/370 Principles of Operation SA22-7200-00 $41.00
ESA/390 Principles of Operation SA22-7201-06 $14.75
ESA/390 Common I/O-Device Commands SA22-7204-02 $ 3.85
ESA/390 Princ. Oper. binder inserts SA22-7205-00 $ 9.55
Generic 8 1/2 x 11 binder for above SX80-0258-00 $11.00
All available from IBM Manuals and Publications, 800-879-2755.
Disclaimer: The prices are what I just looked up as external selling
prices in one of our databases; you'll need to verify pricing and
availability with the folks at the 800 number for the final word....
I just ordered the S/360 Principles of Operation for myself, and can
verify that it is still available.
--Pat.
6:35 a.m.
http://www.snipix.freeserve.co.uk/hercules.htm
--m
Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
Anyone know where I can get my hands on an emulator of an IBM 360/370?
Always wanted to meet one, and I'm curious. (Taking a shortish rest from
working on the '10. I'm into paging and such now and it's giving me fits.)
Failing that, anyone know where to get documentation so I can hack one up
after I'm done fighting with E10?
Altavista search turns up junk matches (resumes and such) and a couple
emulators that have disappeared.
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7:32 a.m.
"Daniel A. Seagraves" wrote:
Anyone know where I can get my hands on an emulator of an IBM 360/370?
Always wanted to meet one, and I'm curious. (Taking a shortish rest from
working on the '10. I'm into paging and such now and it's giving me fits.)
If you can wait until the end of january (hopefully) you will be able
to use the real machine. As some of you probably know I have acquired
a complete 4381 and am working to put it back on-line accessible
from internet
e.
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1:16 p.m.
[Gonna have a real 360]
Cool! Can you explain to me then how to IPL OS/360?
I have it, and the emulator, but no idea how to make it go. ^_^
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8:46 a.m.
Failing that, anyone know where to get documentation
so I can hack one up
after I'm done fighting with E10?
IBM will still sell you (and relatively cheaply) the Principles of Operation
documents for the 360, 370, 370/XA, ESA 370, and 390.
IBM has a web site for ordering documentation, but it's just about
impossible to find (i.e., a search from www.ibm.com does not find it),
and unfortunately I don't seem to have the URL. I ordered some manuals
from them about two months ago, including the 360
Principles of Operation,
the 360/30 Functional Characteristics, and the 360/67
Functional
Characteristics.
Unfortunately they obsoleted the majority of the 360 manuals about 18
months ago. There are still some 370 manuals available.
5:23 p.m.
Anyone know where I can get my hands on an emulator of
an IBM 360/370?
Always wanted to meet one, and I'm curious. (Taking a shortish rest from
working on the '10. I'm into paging and such now and it's giving me fits.)
Failing that, anyone know where to get documentation so I can hack one up
after I'm done fighting with E10?
Altavista search turns up junk matches (resumes and such) and a couple
emulators that have disappeared.
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Did anybody buy some of those emulation card sets that turned up a few
months ago on the list? Some surplus place claimed for have a bunch of for
like $50 a pop, then seemed to back off later on about having many at all.
28 Dec
28 Dec
5:41 a.m.
They don't have any left. (In spite of the fact that their last mailing
still had them on the sheet).
I got the last one last go 'round -- and it doesn't seem to want to work,
though I have heard of others whose cards seem to work -- so I suspect I
just got "lucky".
Jay
At 11:23 PM 12/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
<< snip >>
Did anybody buy some of those emulation card sets that turned up a few
months ago on the list? Some surplus place claimed for have a bunch of for
like $50 a pop, then seemed to back off later on about having many at all.
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