7 Feb
2008
7 Feb
'08
5:48 a.m.
It's a strange thing to do but it might be worth keeping in mind if you
are looking at buying SID chips off of eBay (the C64's sound chip, for
those who don't know).
http://kevtris.org/Projects/sid/remarked_sids.html
I make no comment on the factuality of the assertions presented, but I
suppose the moral is when buying NOS, caveat emptor.
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7 Feb
7 Feb
10:23 a.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
It's a strange thing to do but it might be worth
keeping in mind if you
are looking at buying SID chips off of eBay (the C64's sound chip, for
those who don't know).
http://kevtris.org/Projects/sid/remarked_sids.html
I make no comment on the factuality of the assertions presented, but I
suppose the moral is when buying NOS, caveat emptor.
Very interesting web page.
There are many fake parts out there and companies must be careful to
protect themselves from this sort of fraud.
I've had problems with many parts that are sold as replacements yet are
of such poor quality that they collapse or bend or simply won't fit.
Because of this I am avoiding the low price companies and trying to buy
stock only from reputable dealers who will stand behind their products
if a problem is found.
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7:26 p.m.
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
It's a strange thing to do but it might be worth
keeping in mind if you
are looking at buying SID chips off of eBay (the C64's sound chip, for
those who don't know).
http://kevtris.org/Projects/sid/remarked_sids.html
I make no comment on the factuality of the assertions presented, but I
suppose the moral is when buying NOS, caveat emptor.
Counterfeiting components is a big racket.
http://sound.westhost.com/counterfeit.htm
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7:33 p.m.
It's a
strange thing to do but it might be worth keeping in mind if you
are looking at buying SID chips off of eBay (the C64's sound chip, for
those who don't know).
http://kevtris.org/Projects/sid/remarked_sids.html
I make no comment on the factuality of the assertions presented, but I
suppose the moral is when buying NOS, caveat emptor.
Counterfeiting components is a big racket.
http://sound.westhost.com/counterfeit.htm 
9 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Oh, I'm fully aware. But it doesn't seem like
the margins on 64 SIDs would
be worth it.
Why, how much does your typical SID go for?
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10:13 p.m.
On Friday 08 February 2008 00:00, Jim Leonard wrote:
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I've sold a few, it varies some.
That site would've had some more weight for me if he'd said specifically who
it was he bought 'em from...
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Oh, I'm fully aware. But it doesn't seem
like the margins on 64 SIDs
would be worth it.
Why, how much does your typical SID go for?
10:32 p.m.
Roy J. Tellason wrote:
On Friday 08 February 2008 00:00, Jim Leonard wrote:
What is "some"? I mean, are we talking about $20 for a SID or $80 for a
SID? If the latter, then yes, I can see how it would be worthwhile for
crooks to go through the trouble.
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Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I've sold a few, it varies some. Oh, I'm fully aware. But it doesn't seem
like the margins on 64 SIDs
would be worth it.
Why, how much does your typical SID go for?
11 p.m.
On Friday 08 February 2008 01:32, Jim Leonard wrote:
Roy J. Tellason wrote:
I don't think I've ever gotten anywhere near $80 for any that I've sold,
though $20 doesn't sound too far out of line. I'd really have to go digging
into some old emails to get all that more specific an idea, though. Back
when we were making something of a living fixing that stuff (1985-92 or
thereabouts), the going price for one was $25. I have no idea what they're
going for on ebay these days, though I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to
find out.
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On Friday 08 February 2008 00:00, Jim Leonard
wrote:
What is "some"? I mean, are we talking about $20 for a SID or $80 for a
SID? If the latter, then yes, I can see how it would be worthwhile for
crooks to go through the trouble. Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I've sold a few, it varies some. Oh, I'm fully aware. But it doesn't seem
like the margins on 64 SIDs
would be worth it.
Why, how much does your typical SID go for? 
8 Feb
8 Feb
9:34 a.m.
In article <47ABF77B.30501 at oldskool.org>,
Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> writes:
What is "some"? I mean, are we talking
about $20 for a SID or $80 for a
SID? If the latter, then yes, I can see how it would be worthwhile for
crooks to go through the trouble.
If SIDs are selling for $80, its cheaper to buy used C=64s for the
SIDs.
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11:18 a.m.
> What is "some"? I mean, are we talking
about $20 for a SID or $80 for a
> SID? If the latter, then yes, I can see how it would be worthwhile for
> crooks to go through the trouble.
A quick check on completed sales seems to indicate they are selling in
the $25 each, 120+ in Quantity 5, range.
At that price I am not surprised to see counterfeits. It is too bad.
Thanks for posting the link to the story.
Pax
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