On 10/1/12 11:12 AM, Al Kossow wrote: Well, thinking about it some more, cctlk isn't actually private, since I forgot that ay has maintained a web-accessable archive at http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/ So now some list aggregator has started crawing it.

On 1 October 2012 21:05, geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote: Fair enough. I prefer it if you have to subscribe to read the messages. -- Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems: "The Future Begins Tomorrow" Visit us at: http://www.yoyodyne-propulsion.net -------- "I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in. " General "Buck" Turgidson

That's fine. I don't like to see my messages inside the lists indexed and available for everybody in the Internet. It's a matter of privacy. I can have some care in my comments inside it but soon or later everyone can put some personal information which not concern to no one. The goal would be to protect the archive and put in service some kind of search engine as said below. And this is valid for any kind of 'mirror' of the list. I don't know if exists something so. Regards SPc. 2012/10/2, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>:

From: "Jason T": Monday, October 01, 2012 3:30 PM I'm hopeful that there will continue *not* to be a call for action on this point. I think the benefit of having the list indexed *far* outweighs the possibility that one of us will accidentally reveal something personal in public. And I consider myself a privacy buff. My experience is that when I want to look up something (often quite obscure) about my favorite vintage gear, nothing beats the search engines, and nothing matches so often as cctalk and the archives of the PDP8-Lovers mailing list. Unfortunately, the PDP8-lovers list is private, and the fact that only 2/89 thru 2/95 are archived and searchable is a great loss. Fortunately, this list has largely taken up the slack, giving a place where I can find information which was more recently discussed, and pointers to resources that have some chance of still existing. I'd also note that at various times, the "public" PDP8-lovers content from 89-95 has nearly vanished due to being (nearly) single-sourced. As far as I can tell, the more recent content *has* essentially vanished. This list has always been public, and I think we all knew that, though it may have slipped our minds from time to time. I, for one, am glad of it. I also think that the list has run quite well for a long time this way (thanks again to Jay and others who make it happen!), without any problems that I am aware of, related to it's being public. A lot of the bugaboos about spam and so on just haven't materialized. (Thanks also to Google and others for the archives themselves and for obscuring our email addresses in their archives.) Vince