30 May
2014
30 May
'14
5:53 p.m.
I have this vague memory that back in the day, any well-equipped computer operator would
have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end of a mangled magtape to a nice, neat
curve. Do I actually remember that, or did I make it up? As I get older, my imagination is
getting better than my memory, and it's getting a lot easier to vividly remember
things that never happened.
If such a tool exists, I want one!
I recall another little tool (and I think I still have one somewhere) that was a give-away
from the Sun User's Group. It was a little pocket-clip screwdriver with a flat blade
on one end, a hex key for VME card mounting screws on the other, and "SUGtool"
or something like that marked on the side.
One of our printers in the computer room that I worked in at UCI in the late 1980s had a
tool sitting about for punching the carriage control tapes for one of our old line
printers. We had separate printer queues for letter sized and wide format paper, both
pointing at the same printer. One of the operator's jobs was to frequently stop one
queue, change the control tape loop and the paper in the printer, then enable the other
queue.
Write rings were littered all over the place, naturally. And then there was the
suction-cup tool for lifting the raised floor tiles.
What else might be found in the operator's desk drawer or sitting around the computer
room?
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
30 May
30 May
6:23 p.m.
There was always a manual card punch. Something like this.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102665920
It is possible that something like that was used to produce the cards that
appear in this TED talk.
http://www.ted.com/talks/randall_munroe_comics_that_ask_what_if
On Fri May 30 2014 at 8:57:55 PM, Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote:
I have this vague memory that back in the day, any
well-equipped computer
operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end of a
mangled magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember that, or did
I make it up? As I get older, my imagination is getting better than my
memory, and it's getting a lot easier to vividly remember things that never
happened.
If such a tool exists, I want one!
I recall another little tool (and I think I still have one somewhere) that
was a give-away from the Sun User's Group. It was a little pocket-clip
screwdriver with a flat blade on one end, a hex key for VME card mounting
screws on the other, and "SUGtool" or something like that marked on the
side.
One of our printers in the computer room that I worked in at UCI in the
late 1980s had a tool sitting about for punching the carriage control tapes
for one of our old line printers. We had separate printer queues for letter
sized and wide format paper, both pointing at the same printer. One of the
operator's jobs was to frequently stop one queue, change the control tape
loop and the paper in the printer, then enable the other queue.
Write rings were littered all over the place, naturally. And then there
was the suction-cup tool for lifting the raised floor tiles.
What else might be found in the operator's desk drawer or sitting around
the computer room?
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
7:31 p.m.
On May 30, 2014, at 18:23 , Tony Aiuto <tony.aiuto at gmail.com> wrote:
There was always a manual card punch. Something like
this.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102665920
Sadly, by the time I first got access to a real computer room in 1986, there were no signs
of punched card paraphernalia left.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
9:37 p.m.
On Fri May 30 2014 at 8:57:55 PM, Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote:
> What else might be found in the operator's
desk drawer or sitting around
> the computer room?
A big box of Kimwipes--to clean up oil on the floor from a leaking disk
drive. Gloves for changing printer ribbons (and digging bits and pieces
out of the machinery). A broom with a very long handle to free the
write rings that some joker tossed up on the light fixtures or hung off
a sprinkler head. A clean shirt and a clip-on tie (in case it gets
caught in something). A few cards to trip the write enable on manual
load drives (just slip it in back of the reel and nudge it. We don't
need no flippin' rings!). A large felt-tip marker to make signs and
mark card decks.
Earplugs. Definitely earplugs.
--Chuck
11:05 p.m.
On Sat, 31 May 2014, Tony Aiuto wrote:
There was always a manual card punch. Something like
this.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102665920
In one of the collections I liquidated, I found a manual paper tape punch.
It looks a bit like this: http://www.cryptomuseum.com/telex/repair/ except
that it has only one column of holes.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
11:26 p.m.
On Sat, 31 May 2014, Tony Aiuto wrote:
There was always a manual card punch. Something like
this.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102665920
I never saw one of those--just regular keypunches not far from the
operator's console. But heck, if you were the operator, you could
always copy a file to the punch queue. On the 6000, there was a PP
utility called "O26" (oh, not zero) that allowed for the creation of a
text file from the operator's console.
--Chuck
31 May
31 May
10:15 a.m.
On May 30, 2014, at 23:05 , David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
In one of the collections I liquidated, I found a
manual paper tape punch. It looks a bit like this:
http://www.cryptomuseum.com/telex/repair/ except that it has only one column of holes.
Oooh, that is a cool little device!
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
2:26 p.m.
In one of the collections I liquidated, I found a
manual paper tape punch.
It looks a bit like this: http://www.cryptomuseum.com/telex/repair/ except
that it has only one column of holes.
I notice that web site says they are 'rare'. As ever that is somewhat
meaningless, i have 3 of 4 of the things. And very useful they are too...
-tony
4:18 p.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 14:26 , Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I notice that web site says they are 'rare'.
As ever that is somewhat
meaningless, i have 3 of 4 of the things. And very useful they are too...
Wanna sell or trade one? :)
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
1 Jun
1 Jun
1:38 p.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 14:26 , Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Not yet... I still use paper tape on many of my systems.
-tony
I notice that web site says they are
'rare'. As ever that is somewhat
meaningless, i have 3 of 4 of the things. And very useful they are too...
Wanna sell or trade one? :) 
10:44 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
There's a manual tape punch for sale at the Norwegian internet marketplace "
finn.no": http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=48764789. The
listed price is approximately ?50/$85.
On May 31, 2014, at 14:26 , Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I notice that web site says they are 'rare'. As ever that is somewhat
> meaningless, i have 3 of 4 of the things. And very useful they are
too...
Wanna sell or trade one? :)
Not yet... I still use paper tape on many of my systems.
31 May
31 May
2:18 p.m.
There was always a manual card punch. Something like this.
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102665920
There was also the card knife, used to extrat totally mangeld cards from
the reader. Often used when some idiot had put a lace card or twon in
their deck...
And of course a suitble chunk ofr clue-by-four to use on that idiot.
-tony
4:20 p.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 14:18 , Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
There was also the card knife, used to extrat totally
mangeld cards from
the reader. Often used when some idiot had put a lace card or twon in
their deck...
A friend of mine told me that a long time ago, he discovered that a Hershey bar fit
perfectly in the card feed hopper.
It didn't feed so well, though.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
30 May
30 May
6:24 p.m.
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:53:41PM -0700, Mark J. Blair wrote:
I have this vague memory that back in the day, any
well-equipped computer
operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end of a mangled
magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember that, or did I make it
up? As I get older, my imagination is getting better than my memory, and it's
getting a lot easier to vividly remember things that never happened.
Nope, it's real. I used to have one somewhere. Was there also something
for embossing a ridge or two into the tape so you could get the free end
loose for sure? That one's hazier.
Write rings were littered all over the place,
naturally.
I never quite got why each tape owned its own personal write ring, when
really you just need one per drive. It's not like a floppy-disk write-enable
tab where it actually sticks on. If they were trying to free the operator
from making an individual decision on each tape mount
... well that's *worse*!
What else might be found in the operator's desk
drawer or sitting around the
computer room?
Tex wipes and/or long Q-tips and 99% isopropynol? An O2 tank in case the
halon system goes off? A current resume?
John Wilson
D Bit
8:12 p.m.
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:24 PM, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
Nope, it's real. I used to have one somewhere. Was there also something
for embossing a ridge or two into the tape so you could get the free end
loose for sure? That one's hazier.
This tool embosses three short lengthwise ridges in the end of the
tape as it cuts the curve at the end. Is that what you mean?
https://sites.google.com/site/glensvintagecomputerinfo/9-track-tape-trimmer
10:20 p.m.
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:12:22PM -0700, Glen Slick wrote:
This tool embosses three short lengthwise ridges in the
end of the
tape as it cuts the curve at the end. Is that what you mean?
Yes! Looks like the same tool either way (being made in Natick sounds
familiar so I think I had the Pericomp version) but those little ridges
are what I mean. Presumably that's so you don't need fingernails to get
the end of the tape off the reel when it's clingy.
Conversely, I also liked the little strips of Colorform material for holding
the loose end of the tape (or was that more on DECtapes? I remember little
blocks of foam on magtapes, and it's all a blur now). They seemed ridiculous
but they worked well.
John Wilson
D Bit
31 May
31 May
10:19 a.m.
On May 30, 2014, at 22:20 , John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
I remember little
blocks of foam on magtapes, and it's all a blur now).
You remember those correctly. I got a 5-pack of NOS 3M magtapes off eBay a while back, and
they each have the little foam block to hold the tape end in place during shipment. I do
not recall ever seeing one back in the day, though. I think they must have been discarded
at the sites I worked in.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
2 Jun
2 Jun
11:19 a.m.
I have a similar one...except it's from IBM.
-Bob
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On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:24 PM, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
Nope, it's real. I used to have one somewhere. Was there also
something for embossing a ridge or two into the tape so you could get
the free end loose for sure? That one's hazier.
This tool embosses three short lengthwise ridges in the end of the tape as it cuts the
curve at the end. Is that what you mean?
https://sites.google.com/site/glensvintagecomputerinfo/9-track-tape-trimmer
31 May
31 May
9:05 a.m.
On May 30, 2014, at 9:24 PM, John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:53:41PM -0700, Mark J.
Blair wrote:
The curve cutter was for autoloading tape drives. For manually loaded drives, the end
wouldn?t matter. I don?t remember any embossing widget.
I have this vague memory that back in the day,
any well-equipped computer
operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end of a mangled
magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember that, or did I make it
up? As I get older, my imagination is getting better than my memory, and it's
getting a lot easier to vividly remember things that never happened.
Nope, it's real. I used to have one somewhere. Was there also something
for embossing a ridge or two into the tape so you could get the free end
loose for sure? That one's hazier. ...
The nice thing about Halon systems is that they would put out fires without endangering
the human. Quite unlike their politically correct replacement, large tanks of nitrogen
that would suffocate humans and flames alike.
How about a handful of Little Blue Things? Those are the 1/4 inch wide blue vinyl strips
that stick to the shiny backing of DECtape, and serve to hold the end to the reel when
you put it into the case.
And of course a Green Card (360 reference card) or variations in other colors for other
machines. I once saw an Illiac IV reference card, but I did?t snatch it. Too bad...
How about the original yellow VAX-11 reference card, the one produced by Stan Rabinowitz
as an unauthorized project ? but nevertheless handed out at DECUS? (It has what looks
like a DEC part number on it, but with ?P?S? in it somewhere.)
paul
What else might be found in the operator's
desk drawer or sitting around the
computer room?
Tex wipes and/or long Q-tips and 99% isopropynol? An O2 tank in case the
halon system goes off? A current resume? 
9:28 a.m.
On 31/05/2014 17:05, Paul Koning wrote:
--
Dave
G4UGM
On May 30, 2014, at 9:24 PM, John Wilson <wilson at
dbit.com> wrote:
You needed something to stop the end sticking to the reel. I am pretty
sure ours put a small dimple in the end of the tape. Just enough to
allow the end to be loose.
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:53:41PM -0700, Mark J.
Blair wrote:
The curve cutter was for autoloading tape
drives. For manually loaded drives, the end wouldn?t matter. I don?t remember any
embossing widget. I have this vague memory that back in the day,
any well-equipped computer
operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end of a mangled
magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember that, or did I make it
up? As I get older, my imagination is getting better than my memory, and it's
getting a lot easier to vividly remember things that never happened.
Nope,
it's real. I used to have one somewhere. Was there also something
for embossing a ridge or two into the tape so you could get the free end
loose for sure? That one's hazier. ...
The nice thing about Halon systems is
that they would put out fires without endangering the human. Quite unlike their
politically correct replacement, large tanks of nitrogen that would suffocate humans and
flames alike.
How about a handful of Little Blue Things? Those are the 1/4 inch wide blue vinyl strips
that stick to the shiny backing of DECtape, and serve to hold the end to the reel when
you put it into the case.
And of course a Green Card (360 reference card) or variations in other colors for other
machines. I once saw an Illiac IV reference card, but I did?t snatch it. Too bad...
How about the original yellow VAX-11 reference card, the one produced by Stan Rabinowitz
as an unauthorized project ? but nevertheless handed out at DECUS? (It has what looks
like a DEC part number on it, but with ?P?S? in it somewhere.)
paul
What else might be found in the operator's
desk drawer or sitting around the
computer room?
Tex wipes and/or long Q-tips and 99% isopropynol? An O2 tank in
case the
halon system goes off? A current resume? 
9:36 a.m.
How about a handful of Little Blue Things? Those are
the 1/4 inch
wide blue vinyl strips that stick to the shiny backing of DECtape, and
serve to hold the end to the reel when you put it into the case.
Anybody know where to get little blue things these days? Seems like
every 9track reel that comes my way needs an lbt or a block of foam
(lbts seem safer, given how foam often ages). Getting tired of needing
to run 500 feet off the reel to get to the fold-loopback caused by loose
packing and the inevitable shift in the mail.
De
11:09 a.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote:
I remember a child?s toy set ? the same material as LBTs but in several colors, cut into
shapes like flowers and fruit. You would stick them to clean dry windows to make
pictures.
So you might look in toy stores for that material and cut suitable strips.
paul
How about a
handful of Little Blue Things? Those are the 1/4 inch
wide blue vinyl strips that stick to the shiny backing of DECtape, and
serve to hold the end to the reel when you put it into the case.
Anybody know where to get little blue things these days? Seems like
every 9track reel that comes my way needs an lbt or a block of foam
(lbts seem safer, given how foam often ages). Getting tired of needing
to run 500 feet off the reel to get to the fold-loopback caused by loose
packing and the inevitable shift in the mail.
1:03 p.m.
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 02:09:51PM -0400, Paul Koning wrote:
I remember a child?s toy set ? the same material as
LBTs but in several
colors, cut into shapes like flowers and fruit. You would stick them to clean
dry windows to make pictures.
Colorforms. I agree it seems like the same stuff.
John Wilson
D Bit
10:25 a.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 09:05 , Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
The nice thing about Halon systems is that they would
put out fires without endangering the human. Quite unlike their politically correct
replacement, large tanks of nitrogen that would suffocate humans and flames alike.
I thought that the Halon system would extinguish operators, too? The machine room I worked
in at UCI had a Halon system, with a big red abort button next to each door. We were
instructed that if the alarm goes off, either abort the Halon dump (if it was an obvious
false alarm) or GTFO of the room before the dump.
Pressing the abort button would also sound a loud buzzer, so the button was always fun to
press just for fun. I think I may install a fake Halon abort button (with a suitable
buzzer, of course) in my computer room at home. :)
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
11:07 a.m.
On 05/31/2014 10:25 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
I thought that the Halon system would extinguish
operators, too? The
machine room I worked in at UCI had a Halon system, with a big red
abort button next to each door. We were instructed that if the alarm
goes off, either abort the Halon dump (if it was an obvious false
alarm) or GTFO of the room before the dump.
Absolutely--I remember getting a stern lecture from the local fire
mashall about our Halon setup. The advantage of Halon is that it's much
heavier than air--with the portable Halon extinguishers, the procedure
is to aim the nozzle at the base of the fire, empty the extinguisher and
get out of the room pronto. I still have a (full) Halon extinguisher
mounted to my office wall.
In terms of danger, at least it wouldn't kill your internal organs like
the old carbon tet ones.
--Chuck
12:32 p.m.
On Sat, 31 May 2014, Chuck Guzis wrote:
get out of the room pronto. I still have a (full)
Halon extinguisher
mounted to my office wall.
In terms of danger, at least it wouldn't kill your internal organs like
the old carbon tet ones.
Or the "Dry Powder - ABC" extinguishers. Those work exceptionally well
for putting out fires, but cause a lot of damage. Trying to get that
stuff out of auto uphostery was difficult. In my auto garage (1970s), I
equipped every stall with an ABC AND a CO2. I instructed each of my
emplyees:
If it's anything minor, use the CO2.
If your life is in danger, use the ABC.
If you were not in danger, and you use the ABC, you will be.
11:11 a.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote:
On May 31, 2014, at 09:05 , Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
Good advice because it?s not nice to be near a fire. But I thought that Halon would only
amount to a few percent of the room volume, leaving plenty of oxygen. The operation
mechanism of Halon apparently isn?t oxygen displacement (while for nitrogen systems it
obviously is).
paul
The nice thing about Halon systems is that they
would put out fires without endangering the human. Quite unlike their politically correct
replacement, large tanks of nitrogen that would suffocate humans and flames alike.
I thought that the Halon system would extinguish operators, too? The machine room I
worked in at UCI had a Halon system, with a big red abort button next to each door. We
were instructed that if the alarm goes off, either abort the Halon dump (if it was an
obvious false alarm) or GTFO of the room before the dump. 
12:24 p.m.
On May 31, 2014, at 14:11, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
Good advice because it?s not nice to be near a fire. But I thought that Halon would only
amount to a few percent of the room volume, leaving plenty of oxygen. The operation
mechanism of Halon apparently isn?t oxygen displacement (while for nitrogen systems it
obviously is).
In general, it's fairly non-toxic, though it does cause things
like giddiness and other impairments. You don't want to be
high as a kite next to a machine fire. The other problem is
that in contact with very high temperatures (which, oddly
enough, are often found around fires), halon can break down
into some seriously nasty stuff like hydrofluoric acid. I think
I'd take my chances with the fire at that point.
- Dave
9:16 p.m.
At 08:24 PM 5/30/2014, you wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:53:41PM -0700, Mark J. Blair
wrote:
Still have one hanging
on the wall at my desk.
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I have this vague memory that back in the day, any
well-equipped computer
operator would have a tool in the desk drawer
which trims the end of a mangled
magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually
remember that, or did I make it
up? As I get older, my imagination is getting
better than my memory, and it's
getting a lot easier to vividly remember things
that never happened.
Nope, it's real. I used to have one somewhere. Was there also something
for embossing a ridge or two into the tape so you could get the free end
loose for sure? That one's hazier.
>Write rings were littered all over the place, naturally. 
30 May
30 May
6:40 p.m.
On 5/30/2014 5:53 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
I have this vague memory that back in the day, any
well-equipped computer operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the end
of a mangled magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember that, or did I make it
up? As I get older, my imagination is getting better than my memory, and it's getting
a lot easier to vividly remember things that never happened.
If such a tool exists, I want one!
I don't know if wright line made it, but
there was a hard plastic (i
think) device that cut a very nice curved end on the tape.
one would also have an xacto knife or such for mid tape cuts when you
had a real situation and just a cleanup of the end was not enough.
also you would have a 3m roll or dispenser of BOT / EOT markers.
A few write rings.
I recall another little tool (and I think I still have
one somewhere) that was a give-away from the Sun User's Group. It was a little
pocket-clip screwdriver with a flat blade on one end, a hex key for VME card mounting
screws on the other, and "SUGtool" or something like that marked on the side.
One of our printers in the computer room that I worked in at UCI in the late 1980s had a
tool sitting about for punching the carriage control tapes for one of our old line
printers. We had separate printer queues for letter sized and wide format paper, both
pointing at the same printer. One of the operator's jobs was to frequently stop one
queue, change the control tape loop and the paper in the printer, then enable the other
queue.
There were rulers made up for measuring various line spacing, etc, and
line counts to make the carriage tapes.
our UMR data center also had a dedicated 029 to make up the occasional
card. They had both a small card reader actually open to the public to
enter jobs, and a 2540 reader punch that could do 3 or 4 decks at a time.
I don't recall how the interpreted the cards. the 2540 did not put the
human readable bit on the cards. I think it was another unit similar
to the 029, and you didn't get any joy if you asked for a 2000 card deck
to be interpreted, since you could only feed about 3 or 4" at a time
stack of cards.
Write rings were littered all over the place,
naturally. And then there was the suction-cup tool for lifting the raised floor tiles.
What else might be found in the operator's desk drawer or sitting around the computer
room?
List of phone numbers of who to wake up when the thing crashed at night.
6:50 p.m.
On Fri, 30 May 2014, Mark J. Blair wrote:
I have this vague memory that back in the day, any
well-equipped
computer operator would have a tool in the desk drawer which trims the
end of a mangled magtape to a nice, neat curve. Do I actually remember
that, or did I make it up? As I get older, my imagination is getting
better than my memory, and it's getting a lot easier to vividly remember
things that never happened.
If such a tool exists, I want one!
They DO exist!
http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/Media/BOT.jpg
You also needed a supply of BOT/EOT foil markers.
...
One of our printers in the computer room that I worked in at UCI in the
late 1980s had a tool sitting about for punching the carriage control
tapes for one of our old line printers.
http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/Printers/TapePunch-1L.jpg
... and the tape to go with it:
http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/Printers/CCtape.jpg
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
7:19 p.m.
On May 30, 2014, at 18:50 , Mike Loewen <mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us> wrote:
That looks really familiar! Thought I might have just made up the memory once I saw your
picture. :)
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Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
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31 May
31 May
12:33 p.m.
On 31/05/14 03:19, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On May 30, 2014, at 18:50 , Mike Loewen <mloewen at
cpumagic.scol.pa.us> wrote:
That looks really
familiar! Thought I might have just made up the memory once I saw your picture. :)
Mine looks identical except for the DIGITAL sticker on the front. PART
NO 47-00038, in case you want to look for one.
Antonio
arcarlini at iee.org
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tool exists, I want one!
They DO exist!
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