21 Dec
2005
21 Dec
'05
8:09 p.m.
I have one of the above that is giving a 102 error, meaning the system
board is toast. Any suggestions on what to do?
I do have a couple of Portable III's so could possible use some of the
parts, but see no way to reasonable revive the beast.
Next project is to revive a Wang portable(sans power supply), or maybe a
DEC Rainbow (sans monitor and keyboard).
Would a Decmate keyboard and monitor work with a Rainbow?
21 Dec
21 Dec
8:19 p.m.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Choctaw Bob wrote:
I have one of the above that is giving a 102 error,
meaning the system
board is toast. Any suggestions on what to do?
Fix it, or buy another system board
($16)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Compaq-System-Board-for-Portable-386-w-memor-107683-001…
8:41 p.m.
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With Seagate to purchase Maxtor (which purchased Quantum not so long ago) I
started thinking of all the HD makers that bit the dust ( Micropilis and IBM
comes to mind since I have a few of each on the spare parts shelf shelf).
What do you guys think of the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what were
some of the older good ones that are no more?
8:50 p.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Seagate to Purchase Maxtor
If anyone's interested, IDC this fall said the top drive manufacturers (in
order) are Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi Global Storage Technologies
(formerly IBM), Maxtor, Toshiba, Samsung, and Fujitsu.
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Teo Zenios
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:41 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Seagate to Purchase Maxtor
With Seagate to purchase Maxtor (which purchased Quantum not so long ago) I
started thinking of all the HD makers that bit the dust ( Micropilis and IBM
comes to mind since I have a few of each on the spare parts shelf shelf).
What do you guys think of the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what were
some of the older good ones that are no more?
9:44 p.m.
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Teo Zenios wrote:
With Seagate to purchase Maxtor (which purchased
Quantum not so long ago) I
started thinking of all the HD makers that bit the dust ( Micropilis and IBM
comes to mind since I have a few of each on the spare parts shelf shelf).
What do you guys think of the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what were
some of the older good ones that are no more?
Saying IBM's drive manufacture "bit the dust" is a lot like saying
that IBM is out of the PowerPC business.
I've been on several IBM campuses this year that have "Hitachi" R&D
facilities onsite. ;)
Doc
10:11 p.m.
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On 12/21/2005 at 11:44 PM Doc Shipley wrote:
In 8" and smaller:
Shugart, Rodime, Evotek, Disctron, Miniscribe, CDC, Priam, Prarietek,
Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I really, really didn't like
was JTS.
-Chuck
> comes to mind since I have a few of each on the
spare parts shelf
shelf).
What do you
guys think of the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what
were
> some of the older good ones that are no more? 
22 Dec
22 Dec
1:29 a.m.
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In message <200512212211200240.072AFC9B at 10.0.0.252>
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I really,
really didn't like
was JTS.
Never used a Kalok then? Those things were nasty...
As far as drive failures go, I've had one Maxtor 40GB fail and a Seagate 2GB
develop sticktion. Interestingly enough, the Quantum-designed drives (D740X
especially) don't seem to be as failure-prone as the newer "pureblood"
Maxtor
drives. DiamondMax 8 slimlines are truly crap as far as reliability goes.
That said, you buy cheap, you get cheap - DM8s are (or at least were) the
absolute cheapest drives Maxtor made. I usually pick drives from somewhere in
the middle of the capacity range, and aim to pay around ?65-?80 per drive.
Notice how most of the people whining "XYZ drives are crap" are the
cheapskates that went and bought the ?30 "white box" OEM drives... Cheap
is generally synonymous with "crap" in the world of hard drives, IME.
On a lighter note, anyone ever had a Conner drive? I've got a CFS425 that I
pulled out of a 1996-model Acorn RiscPC600. It's nearly ten years old and
it's still fully functional. Now *that's* engineering.
Later.
--
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philpem at philpem.me.uk | Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxe R2 512MB+100GB
http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Panasonic CF-25 Mk.2 Toughbook
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8:53 a.m.
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On 12/22/05, Philip Pemberton <philpem at dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
In message <200512212211200240.072AFC9B at
10.0.0.252>
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
My circa 1985 First Class Peripherals Sider 10 Meg drive still works
like a champ. Cost me ~ $700. Not sure who manufactured the drive
itself - I'll have to open it up and take a look when I get home
tonight.
I swore off Maxtor earler this year after having one of those
DiamondMax junkers go south on me. And it's replacement. And the RMA
Maxtor sent me... Good gods, those things get hot...
- Mike
Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I
really, really didn't like
was JTS.
Never used a Kalok then? Those things were nasty...
As far as drive failures go, I've had one Maxtor 40GB fail and a Seagate 2GB
develop sticktion. Interestingly enough, the Quantum-designed drives (D740X
especially) don't seem to be as failure-prone as the newer "pureblood"
Maxtor
drives. DiamondMax 8 slimlines are truly crap as far as reliability goes.
That said, you buy cheap, you get cheap - DM8s are (or at least were) the
absolute cheapest drives Maxtor made. I usually pick drives from somewhere in
the middle of the capacity range, and aim to pay around ?65-?80 per drive.
Notice how most of the people whining "XYZ drives are crap" are the
cheapskates that went and bought the ?30 "white box" OEM drives... Cheap
is generally synonymous with "crap" in the world of hard drives, IME.
On a lighter note, anyone ever had a Conner drive? I've got a CFS425 that I
pulled out of a 1996-model Acorn RiscPC600. It's nearly ten years old and
it's still fully functional. Now *that's* engineering.
Later.
--
Phil. | Acorn RiscPC600 SA220 64MB+6GB 100baseT
philpem at philpem.me.uk | Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxe R2 512MB+100GB
http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Panasonic CF-25 Mk.2 Toughbook
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
9:04 a.m.
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On 12/22/2005 at 9:29 AM Philip Pemberton wrote:
It's pretty surprising how many drives I don't remember because they had
such a short working life. JTS was one of the first Indian-made drives and
didn't even have the industry-standard drive dimensions (was too long by
about 1/2"). Seagate isn't infallible, either. I have a few of the
ST15230WC 4GB 3.5" SCSI drives. Miserable, hot-at-as-a-pistol drives. I
think I still have every Conner (under 500MB) that I ever purchased. There
were some bright spots in other manufacturers lines--the WD 31200 Caviar
drives were a bright spot in an otherwise dim line. Lots of dim
spots--the early Quantum XT-era MFM drives (e.g. 30MB) weren't bad, but
the Bigfoot IDE were awful, regardless of type.
Cheers,
Chuck
In message <200512212211200240.072AFC9B at
10.0.0.252>
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
> Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I really, really didn't
like
was JTS.
Never used a Kalok then? Those things were nasty... 
9:08 a.m.
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On 12/22/05, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Seagate isn't infallible, either. I have a few of
the
ST15230WC 4GB 3.5" SCSI drives. Miserable, hot-at-as-a-pistol drives.
I have a stack of those that came out of some EISA servers at
CompuServe... they _do_ run hot. I mostly leave them powered off and
only use them on machines that have a 4GB cap (like old Amigas).
-ethan
12:58 p.m.
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> ST15230WC 4GB 3.5" SCSI drives. Miserable,
hot-at-as-a-pistol drives.
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I have a stack of those that came out of some EISA
servers at
CompuServe... they _do_ run hot. I mostly leave them powered off and
only use them on machines that have a 4GB cap (like old Amigas).
How well would they work in a cold environment?
1:35 p.m.
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On 12/22/05, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Like a machine room? Probably better than my non-airconditioned back bedroom.
-ethan
> ST15230WC
4GB 3.5" SCSI drives. Miserable, hot-at-as-a-pistol drives.
On Thu, 22 Dec
2005, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I have a stack of those that came out of some
EISA servers at
CompuServe... they _do_ run hot.
How well would they work in a cold environment?
1:53 p.m.
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> > > ST15230WC 4GB 3.5" SCSI drives.
Miserable, hot-at-as-a-pistol drives.
> How well would they work in a cold environment?
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Like a machine room? Probably better than my
non-airconditioned back bedroom.
I was thinking more like your other work site:
--
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South Pole Station
PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -37 F (-38.4 C) Windchill -66 F (-54.4 C)
APO AP 96598 Wind 8.4 kts Grid 034 Barometer 676.6 mb (10756 ft)
Ethan.Dicks at amanda.spole.gov
http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html
9:20 a.m.
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Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/22/2005 at 9:29 AM Philip Pemberton wrote:
It's pretty surprising how many drives I don't remember because they had
such a short working life. JTS was one of the first Indian-made drives and
didn't even have the industry-standard drive dimensions (was too long by
about 1/2"). Seagate isn't infallible, either. I have a few of the
ST15230WC 4GB 3.5" SCSI drives. Miserable, hot-at-as-a-pistol drives. I
think I still have every Conner (under 500MB) that I ever purchased. There
were some bright spots in other manufacturers lines--the WD 31200 Caviar
drives were a bright spot in an otherwise dim line. Lots of dim
spots--the early Quantum XT-era MFM drives (e.g. 30MB) weren't bad, but
the Bigfoot IDE were awful, regardless of type.
I'm trying to remember what size Conner came in the Aspen Alpine AXP
systems. The Alpine is a 21064 EB64+ clone with onboard NEC/Symbios
53C810, and both of mine came with a 4200RPM Conner disk. I *think* 1GB.
With no other upgrades, putting in a 5400RPM Seagate got me a 20%
overall performance boost.
Doc
In message <200512212211200240.072AFC9B at
10.0.0.252>
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
>Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I really, really didn't
like
was JTS.
Never used a Kalok then? Those things were nasty... 
11:24 a.m.
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On Thursday 22 December 2005 04:29 am, Philip Pemberton wrote:
Notice how most of the people whining "XYZ drives are crap" are the
cheapskates that went and bought the ?30 "white box" OEM drives... Cheap
is generally synonymous with "crap" in the world of hard drives, IME.
People who complain about one specific brand are usually those folks that have
had *one* instance of that brand fail on them, which wasn't backed up...
On a lighter note, anyone ever had a Conner drive?
I've got a CFS425 that I
pulled out of a 1996-model Acorn RiscPC600. It's nearly ten years old and
it's still fully functional. Now *that's* engineering.
I've got a few kicking around here. I've had one of them fail on me, was
during a thunderstorm that did all sorts of interesting things here. As it
turned out, the machine that it was in somehow was not plugged into a surge
suppressor, by contrast with the other four that were running here 24/7. It
was a 386 box that was my firewall/router, and the drive in question was an
80M (!) drive. I've since replaced that machine with a 486dx2/66 and a
somewhat larger drive, the software in question being a minimal install of
Slackware that I ripped all sorts of stuff out of and configured. Still
going... :-)
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4 p.m.
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I have a Connor 4.x GB model laying about, it did
power up and work last time I used it (several months ago).
-John Boffemmyer IV
At 04:29 AM 12/22/2005, you wrote:
In message <200512212211200240.072AFC9B at
10.0.0.252>
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
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Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I
really, really didn't like
was JTS.
Never used a Kalok then? Those things were nasty...
As far as drive failures go, I've had one Maxtor 40GB fail and a Seagate 2GB
develop sticktion. Interestingly enough, the Quantum-designed drives (D740X
especially) don't seem to be as failure-prone as the newer "pureblood"
Maxtor
drives. DiamondMax 8 slimlines are truly crap as far as reliability goes.
That said, you buy cheap, you get cheap - DM8s are (or at least were) the
absolute cheapest drives Maxtor made. I usually pick drives from somewhere in
the middle of the capacity range, and aim to pay around ?65-?80 per drive.
Notice how most of the people whining "XYZ drives are crap" are the
cheapskates that went and bought the ?30 "white box" OEM drives... Cheap
is generally synonymous with "crap" in the world of hard drives, IME.
On a lighter note, anyone ever had a Conner drive? I've got a CFS425 that I
pulled out of a 1996-model Acorn RiscPC600. It's nearly ten years old and
it's still fully functional. Now *that's* engineering.
Later.
--
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philpem at philpem.me.uk | Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxe R2 512MB+100GB
http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Panasonic CF-25 Mk.2 Toughbook
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. 
23 Dec
23 Dec
9:40 a.m.
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Philip Pemberton wrote:
As far as drive failures go, I've had one Maxtor
40GB fail and a Seagate 2GB
The only drives that have failed on my like clockwork have been the Plus
Hardcard drives. The EEPROMS give up the ghost after about 10 years, no idea
why. I have three and they're all non-functional (they need working BIOSes to
work, unfortunately, can't use them in "dumb" mode).
I pulled a dead Quantum out of a 386SX last week, about 80MB I think. Horrible
grinding noise; I believe the head was tracing a nice groove into a platter :-)
Western Digital drives don't fail on me as much as they "pause for no good
reason". I have WD 600ABs in my RAID and for no reason they'll just decide to
lock up for 1-8 seconds on a write (never a read). I've checked SMART and it's
not errors -- thermal recalibration maybe?
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9:49 a.m.
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On 12/23/2005 at 11:40 AM Jim Leonard wrote:
Western Digital drives don't fail on me as much as
they "pause for no good
reason". I have WD 600ABs in my RAID and for no
reason they'll just
decide to
lock up for 1-8 seconds on a write (never a read). I've checked SMART and
it's
not errors -- thermal recalibration maybe?
I've seen this too and it seems as if the drives spin down for a moment and
then back up again. I have no idea what causes it.
9:55 a.m.
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Chuck Guzis wrote:
What's irritating is that, in a RAID system, if they don't spin back up quickly
enough, the RAID card thinks the drive has failed and goes degraded. It's easy
enough to disconnect then reconnect the drive, but I'll go with better calibre
drives in my RAID next time.
--
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Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
Western Digital
drives don't fail on me as much as they "pause for no good
reason". I have WD 600ABs in my RAID and for no reason they'll just
decide to
lock up for 1-8 seconds on a write (never a read). I've checked SMART and
it's
not errors -- thermal recalibration maybe?
I've seen this too and it seems as if the drives spin down for a moment and
then back up again. I have no idea what causes it. 
27 Dec
27 Dec
10:14 p.m.
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On a lighter note, anyone ever had a Conner drive?
I've got a CFS425
that I pulled out of a 1996-model Acorn RiscPC600. It's nearly ten
years old and it's still fully functional. Now *that's* engineering.
I've got one. I don't know what the model number is; markings that
might be relevant are
0019329-9602X0MJS9
3701964-03
EX9MJS9
CFP1080E
SAG01
8AS051
G54332
9602
Q
SG3
It's an SCA drive, so I don't have any machines I can conveniently pop
it into to check whether it works, but it's probably about ten years
old (the chip datecodes I can see range from 9531 to 9543) and I have
no reason to think it less than fully working; it's in the "working
last time I checked" collection, not the "dead" pile.
I also have an HP drive that's a good deal older, weighs about what I
do, pulls something like 7A mains current (running - more like 12A
spike on startup), and holds all of about half a gigabyte - but it too
worked perfectly last time I fired it up, which was within the last few
years. I can't easily get to it or I'd cite its model number.
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10:40 p.m.
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On a lighter
note, anyone ever had a Conner drive? I've got a CFS425
that I pulled out of a 1996-model Acorn RiscPC600. It's nearly ten
years old and it's still fully functional. Now *that's* engineering.
I've got one. I don't know what the model number is; markings that
might be relevant are
0019329-9602X0MJS9
3701964-03
EX9MJS9
CFP1080E
SAG01
8AS051
G54332
9602
Q
SG3
10:53 p.m.
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Nico de Jong wrote:
CFP1080E is a 1 gig drive, and probably assembled in
96/02
I show 1995: http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/scsi/1080s_r3.pdf
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22 Dec
22 Dec
12:50 p.m.
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was JTS.
-Chuck
A QUICKIE: That JTS 1GB hd still running in front desk computer at
our TV shop, been this way for 3 years now. That pc with that
horrible JTS was there when I started there.
8-O
About Maxtors, I started buying Maxtors in decent numbers (about 10
of different models, 2 before Quantum, rest after. They're still
working. Except for one Quantum I had to RMA 2x a LPS 120A, a
quickest IDE I had for a Quantum in 1993. Even I had bought several
Quantums but not bigfoot (slooow). I only started buying Seagate
again this year starting with 20GB 5400.2 then 80GB 7200.7 SATA
(mistake!!, slow and fussy to get working with motherboard!), 200GB 2
platter version 7200.8 ATA, this one is quickest one I have compared
to other HDs I have currently. I even have Samsung 80GB ATA. Not
too bad but heat is compareable to other decent running HDs but
performance is well, is ok.
Cheers, Wizard
PS: if JTS ever dies, no weeping involved since data is stored on
server. Front desk pc just a client. :)
30 Dec
30 Dec
4:13 p.m.
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On 12/21/05, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Shugart, Rodime, Evotek, Disctron, Miniscribe, CDC,
Priam, Prarietek,
Atasi...the list is endless. The only drive I really, really didn't like
was JTS.
You obviously didn't get an original 6 MHz IBM PC-AT with the
pre-installed 20MB CMI drive. I don't know if all CMI's 20MB drives
were that bad or if IBM just said "We'll take that pile of bad 20MB
drives off your hands." Damn drives sounded like an Apple II booting
up when they were working properly.... which was never for long.
4:23 p.m.
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On 12/30/2005 at 4:13 PM Eric J Korpela wrote:
You obviously didn't get an original 6 MHz IBM
PC-AT with the
pre-installed 20MB CMI drive. I don't know if all CMI's 20MB drives
were that bad or if IBM just said "We'll take that pile of bad 20MB
drives off your hands." Damn drives sounded like an Apple II booting
up when they were working properly.... which was never for long.
Hmmm, I STILL have a working 20MB CMI drive. The noisy ones were the
100+MB Priams. All sorts of interesting sound effects.
Cheers,
Chuck
22 Dec
22 Dec
8:16 a.m.
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Actually, I've been a Seagate man myself ever since I bought my first hard
disk. In fact, I don't own anything without a Seagate in it, even my
PDP-11.
One of the few companies that simply continues to be better than the rest.
I'll continue to tip my hat to IBM/Hitachi drives though, those are pretty
solid too in my experiences with them.
Long live not-crap.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Teo Zenios
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:41 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Seagate to Purchase Maxtor
With Seagate to purchase Maxtor (which purchased Quantum not so long ago)
I
started thinking of all the HD makers that bit the dust ( Micropilis and
IBM
comes to mind since I have a few of each on the spare parts shelf shelf).
What do you guys think of the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what
were
some of the older good ones that are no more?
4:55 p.m.
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:16:04 -0600
"Julian Wolfe" <fireflyst at earthlink.net> wrote:
Actually, I've been a Seagate man myself ever
since I bought my
first hard disk. In fact, I don't own anything without a
Seagate in it, even my PDP-11.
Middle era Seagate drives (the ST-225 era) sound like a steel mill
running out of control. Meaning, they are horrendously noisy.
That teeth-grating 'Seagate sound' is very characteristic and one
can tell a machine has one of those drives lurking within just by
the sound. My first hard drive, a Shugart 5-1/4" full height 5
meg drive, was one of the quietest I have ever owned. I think it
was a model ST-506.
23 Dec
23 Dec
9:49 a.m.
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Scott Stevens wrote:
Middle era Seagate drives (the ST-225 era) sound like
a steel mill
running out of control. Meaning, they are horrendously noisy.
That teeth-grating 'Seagate sound' is very characteristic and one
can tell a machine has one of those drives lurking within just by
the sound.
Actually, I'm comforted by that sound. :-) When I write essays, I usually do
so on the 5150 with 83-key keyboard and ST-225. It's very relaxing (to me).
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22 Dec
22 Dec
3:44 p.m.
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Teo Zenios wrote:
With Seagate to purchase Maxtor (which purchased
Quantum not so long ago) I
started thinking of all the HD makers that bit the dust ( Micropilis and IBM
comes to mind since I have a few of each on the spare parts shelf shelf).
What do you guys think of the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what were
some of the older good ones that are no more?
IBM didn't bite the dust, really. Pretty much all of what is now HGST
used to be IBM/Adstar.
Peace... Sridhar
4:49 p.m.
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:41:08 -0500
"Teo Zenios" <teoz at neo.rr.com> wrote:
With Seagate to purchase Maxtor (which purchased
Quantum not so
long ago) I started thinking of all the HD makers that bit the
dust ( Micropilis and IBM comes to mind since I have a few of
each on the spare parts shelf shelf). What do you guys think of
the ever shrinking HD manufacturers, and what were some of the
older good ones that are no more?
Why, CMI, of course! (evil wink)
23 Dec
23 Dec
9:01 a.m.
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Scott Stevens wrote:
Why, CMI, of course! (evil wink)
I have a PC AT downstairs. When I first aquired it (recycling cage at
work) I opened it up to survey the situation, and found a CMI drive in
it. After cleaning out the dust bunnies I powered it up, and it booted
from the evil unit.
After that I gingerly re-assembled it, and I am waiting to post it on
eBay with a reserve of $10K USD.
No seriously, I was so suprised that the drive was working that my jaw
probably hit the floor. I had never seen a CMI drive and I heard the
story about how they ramped up production very quickly for IBM, and thus
threw the quality out of the window. This drive was either very lightly
used, or it was a very early model that didn't suffer from the ramp-up
in production.
22 Dec
22 Dec
12:48 p.m.
Would a Decmate keyboard and monitor work with a
Rainbow?
Well, the keyboard/monitor from a DECmate II will work, they are the same
units (modulo different keycaps in some cases).
The keyboard is a plain LK201, the mono monitor is a VR201 (and the
keyboard plugs into the monitor). That is just a composite monitor with
strange connectors, The colour monitor is a VR241 (RGB monitor with
sync-on-green).
If you don't have the colour graphics board fitted, you get composite text
video on one pin of the monitor connector. That's what drives the VR201
If you add the colour card, an output from that is combined with the text
video and appears on the same pin. That gives you mono graphics/text on a
VR201, and is also the green drive signal for the VR241. 2 other outputs
from the colour card go to the R and B inputs on the
VR241. You get green
text and colour graphics. There is anouther output from the
colour card
that is combined with the syncs and ends up on another pin of the monitor
connector. With a sepcial cable you can link that to the green input of
the VR241 and also connect a VR201. That way you can have text (and
optionally mono graphics) on the VR201, and colour graphics on the VR241.
You should be able to find a file in the archives which explains the
monitor connector on the 'bow, how to link up non-standard monitors, what
happens if you have the colour card, etc. If not, I'll post it again.
-tony
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