30 Dec
2005
30 Dec
'05
12:04 p.m.
From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch at 30below.com>
Subject: Re: The future of our hobby (was Re: ImageDisk project
is canceled)
Rumor has it that Jos Dreesen may have mentioned these
words:
[snippage]
>There will never be a hacker-friendly mobile phone
for instance.
"Build your own" isn't hacker-friendly???
;-)
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Neat stuff; _Love_ the rotary dial cell phone...
mike
30 Dec
30 Dec
1:07 p.m.
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:04:40 -0500
M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> wrote:
I have pondered installing a rotary dial phone on our line here
at home. I suspect, though, that it would REALLY mess up our DSL
connection.
From: Roger
Merchberger <zmerch at 30below.com>
Subject: Re: The future of our hobby (was Re: ImageDisk project
is canceled)
Rumor has it that Jos Dreesen may have mentioned
these words:
[snippage]
>There will never be a hacker-friendly mobile
phone for instance.
"Build your own" isn't
hacker-friendly??? ;-)
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
------------------------
Neat stuff; _Love_ the rotary dial cell phone...
mike
1:30 p.m.
New subject: hobby cellular (was: Re: The future of our hobby (was Re: ImageDisk project is canceled))
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Scott Stevens wrote:
I have pondered installing a rotary dial phone on our
line here
at home. I suspect, though, that it would REALLY mess up our DSL
connection.
Shouldn't. It'll probably eat all your REN though.
Speaking of homebrewed cellphones, the hardest part will be getting the
specs. Even with GSM, where the 3GPP has thankfully published everything
for free, reading and understanding all of that is a mamoth undertaking.
<cough>9.02</cough>
Then again, you'll need at least a base station, MSC and protocol analyzer
just to test the damned thing... <sigh> the barrier to entry into voice
telecom is still astronomic, and not likely to lower much if the current
players have any say in the process.
Alexey
4:23 p.m.
New subject: hobby cellular (was: Re: The future of our hobby (was Re: ImageDisk project is canceled))
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:30:02 +0000 (UTC)
Alexey Toptygin <alexeyt at freeshell.org> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Scott Stevens wrote:
The barrier is also high because of the relative shortage of
experienced RF design engineers. In the modern era, everybody
goes 'digital' and the arcane art of RF design looses out in the
educational system. Companies compete to hire the good
designers, and the designers with a knack for it are busy making
a mint, probably too busy to do a 'hobby' project.
I worked in telemetry for a biomedical device company, and have
seen how 'coddled' a good RF Design engineer is when working on a
critical project.
I have pondered installing a rotary dial phone on
our line here
at home. I suspect, though, that it would REALLY mess up our DSL
connection.
Shouldn't. It'll probably eat all your REN though.
Speaking of homebrewed cellphones, the hardest part will be getting the
specs. Even with GSM, where the 3GPP has thankfully published everything
for free, reading and understanding all of that is a mamoth undertaking.
<cough>9.02</cough>
Then again, you'll need at least a base station, MSC and protocol analyzer
just to test the damned thing... <sigh> the barrier to entry into voice
telecom is still astronomic, and not likely to lower much if the current
players have any say in the process.
Alexey 
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