1 Sep
1998
1 Sep
'98
1:38 a.m.
At 04:26 PM 8/31/98 -0700, Sam Ismail wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, John Foust wrote:
Yeah, then there's that really big market of Linux users who love to
pay for software.
I use Linux alot, but not for running Microsoft products or Windows code.
All my firewalls and source code servers are Linux. The SGI version
of my product easily recompiles and runs under Linux and X Window.
We used it occasionally to use Checker and Electric Fence for debugging.
I've got hundreds of unsold CDs of a Linux-based 3D product in the
basement, left over from when my company was acquired. I'll gladly
send a CD of it for free to anyone in the world who wants to send me
a piece of old computer junk or software in trade. See my web page
to see what I like.
(See a description of Megahedron
at http://www.threedee.com/mhedron/mhedron.htm>gt;,
and download a free, fully functional demo for Win95/NT x86 and AXP,
Linux and SGI IRIX from <http://www.threedee.com/demos/demos.html>.)
Frankly, Linux doesn't fit under the ten-year-rule. We'll need to
wait until 2003 for that. Sure, it might run on old PCs, though.
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
WinNT is quite stable. I've been running it
for years - since 3.0,
I think, under heavy daily software development.
Use Linux instead. Its far less picky about its hardware (and a whole
lot more stable too, not to mention just a better OS). 
1 Sep
1 Sep
3:55 a.m.
Yeah, then there's that really big market of Linux
users who love to
pay for software.
At the moment I see this as being the chief problem. There are a few
people that are willing to pay for stuff. Part of the problem is the stuff
you get for free is better quality in a lot of cases that what you pay for.
In that respect it rememinds me of OS/2, every commercial App I ever bought
for OS/2 except the one game I got, was of worse quality than the free
stuff.
I buy software all the time for the Mac, but the only commercial software
I've for Linux, with the exception of the backup software has gone unused
except for a brief tryout.
Note, I'm not commenting on the Linux software you mentioned trying to
sell, as I've never seen or heard of it.
Frankly, Linux doesn't fit under the ten-year-rule.
We'll need to
wait until 2003 for that. Sure, it might run on old PCs, though.
Now this statement has a problem, namely that we only need to wait till
2001 for it to fall under the 10-year rule (I've been actively running it
since January '91). Got to agree that for the most part it's only
applicable to talk about it in respect to running it on old computers, OR
using it to tie old computers together (one of my uses).
Zane
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7:20 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
The same uusally is true for BBS programs as well. One good example is Maximus
- free to general users and a great program with plentyu of support and in many
OS versions. Then take a pay BBS - ProBoard...Phillipe Lebeyart has promised a
32 bit OS version for 3 years now, and has finally dropped out of it without
even a good beta.
Not saying ALL free BBS programs are good or ALL pay ones are bad. Mustang puts
out a good product as well as the makers of PCboard. The problem is that when
you call it a pay bbs, you mean it's a PAY BBS, not cheap in the least - but
worth it if that's what you need.
Speaking of Linux....I just got a CD that says Debian LINUX LUG/nut (with a 5
over the nut) made by SSC of Seattle. Anyone know if this is a LINUX OS disk?
Linux is new to me and I really haven't had time to dealve into it.
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Yeah, then
there's that really big market of Linux users who love to
pay for software.
At the moment I see this as being the chief problem. There are a few
people that are willing to pay for stuff. Part of the problem is the stuff
you get for free is better quality in a lot of cases that what you pay for.
In that respect it rememinds me of OS/2, every commercial App I ever bought
for OS/2 except the one game I got, was of worse quality than the free
stuff. 
7:42 a.m.
Speaking of Linux....I just got a CD that says Debian
LINUX LUG/nut (with a 5
over the nut) made by SSC of Seattle. Anyone know if this is a LINUX OS disk?
Linux is new to me and I really haven't had time to dealve into it.
Debian Linux is one of the newer distributions...
Behind Tamu SLS, Slackware, RedHat. Ahead of Stallion, SuSe.
I've heard good things about it.
I still use mostly Slackware since I started with SLS.
However, I've installed RedHat and found it ok on most systems.
My favorite Unix install is FreeBSD.
Bill
8:07 a.m.
Bill Pechter wrote:
I'll have to try it after I get some clear time in a little while. THX
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Russ Blakeman
Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
ICQ UIN #1714857
___________________________________________________
Speaking of
Linux....I just got a CD that says Debian LINUX LUG/nut (with a 5
over the nut) made by SSC of Seattle. Anyone know if this is a LINUX OS disk?
Linux is new to me and I really haven't had time to dealve into it.
Debian Linux is one of the newer distributions...
Behind Tamu SLS, Slackware, RedHat. Ahead of Stallion, SuSe.
I've heard good things about it.
I still use mostly Slackware since I started with SLS.
However, I've installed RedHat and found it ok on most systems.
My favorite Unix install is FreeBSD.
Bill 
8:58 a.m.
OT - Linux apps. I've bought 1 commercial linux app, and I strongly recommend
it to all you folk running Unix (or VMS, I think) on classic machines (woohoo,
a tiein back on topic. :) - it's called Dnews. It runs on windows, Unix
, OS/2, Mac, Novell Netware, VMS, etc, according to their web site.
It's not cheap. My two user licence cost me about 200 bucks... but it sets up
in 5 minutes. Honest. And it's solid and reliable, and I have no regrets
whatever. It can do both IHAVE and multiple site suck feeding, lots of other
cool stuff.
Their web site is http://netwinsite.com. Note that they also have VERY
nice educational discounts on some of their products, including a 100%
discount for universities and schools using Dnews for non-profit
activities.
My only problem with this software is what happens when the clock gets munged
(as happens on my somewhat elderly linux box from time to time) - if it
goes before the beginning of the license, you have to reinstall the license
to make it work again. KEEP YOUR LICENSE INFORMATION HANDY. :)
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Jim Strickland
jim(a)calico.litterbox.com
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