25 Mar
2006
25 Mar
'06
7:16 p.m.
the manual for my T Personal Mini calls for a T 925 or
950 for the console. Floppies (bad) have emulator
software that makes a pc look like one of those. So
does anyone know of another way of emulating a T
terminal, or perhaps got one theyll let go cheapish?
This all assumes the hard drive even works, but what
have I got to lose.
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29 Mar
29 Mar
12:28 p.m.
In article <20060326001626.83746.qmail at web61022.mail.yahoo.com>,
Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> writes:
the manual for my T Personal Mini calls for a T 925
or
950 for the console. Floppies (bad) have emulator
software that makes a pc look like one of those. So
does anyone know of another way of emulating a T
terminal, or perhaps got one theyll let go cheapish?
This all assumes the hard drive even works, but what
have I got to lose.
I have a Televideo 925 in my collection, although I haven't tested it
yet. I believe that basically any VT100 compatible terminal would
work though. I don't have manuals for the 925 but I think it has a
VT100 compatible mode.
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2:34 p.m.
On 3/29/2006 at 10:28 AM Richard wrote:
I have a Televideo 925 in my collection, although I
haven't tested it
yet. I believe that basically any VT100 compatible terminal would
work though. I don't have manuals for the 925 but I think it has a
VT100 compatible mode.
IIRC, I don't believe that either the 925 or 950 handled VT100/ANSI
protocol. I believe you had to go to the 922 for that.
Cheers,
Chuck
2:45 p.m.
IIRC, I don't believe that either the 925 or 950
handled VT100/ANSI
protocol. I believe you had to go to the 922 for that.
I used to use TeleVideo heavily. The 950 was my favourite, but I also
used the 925, and I can confirm that neither one does X3.64 (nor even
that foundation X3.64 built on, whose name I'm having trouble recalling
- X3.41 maybe?).
I don't think I've ever seen a 922, so I can't speak to that part.
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3:22 p.m.
In article <200603291948.OAA06986 at Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>,
der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> writes:
I used to use TeleVideo heavily. The 950 was my
favourite, but I also
used the 925, and I can confirm that neither one does X3.64 (nor even
that foundation X3.64 built on, whose name I'm having trouble recalling
- X3.41 maybe?).
I stand corrected and more interested in my 925 as a result :-).
It looks cosmetically similar to the VT100 so I figured that might
carry over to the escape code sequences as well.
So now I'm on the lookout for documentation on the 925 control
sequences.
Mouse, do you know if the 925 and 950 share the same control codes?
The 950 Operator's Manual is on manx.
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3:35 p.m.
They do except for the status line programming and the real-time clock.
You can use the 950 manual for 99.44% of your programming.
--jc
Richard wrote:
In article <200603291948.OAA06986 at
Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>,
der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> writes:
I used to use TeleVideo heavily. The 950 was my
favourite, but I also
used the 925, and I can confirm that neither one does X3.64 (nor even
that foundation X3.64 built on, whose name I'm having trouble recalling
- X3.41 maybe?).
I stand corrected and more interested in my 925 as a result :-).
It looks cosmetically similar to the VT100 so I figured that might
carry over to the escape code sequences as well.
So now I'm on the lookout for documentation on the 925 control
sequences.
Mouse, do you know if the 925 and 950 share the same control codes?
The 950 Operator's Manual is on manx.
3:36 p.m.
I stand corrected and more interested in my 925 as a
result :-).
It looks cosmetically similar to the VT100 so I figured that might
carry over to the escape code sequences as well.
So now I'm on the lookout for documentation on the 925 control
sequences.
Mouse, do you know if the 925 and 950 share the same control codes?
The 950 Operator's Manual is on manx.
If I may barge into this topic...
The 950 is a superset of the 925 in functionality and control codes.
One of the key differences is that attributes (i.e. changes to bold,
dim, etc.) on the 925 take a screen position. On the 950, they don't.
(That may be configurable on the 950; memory isn't giving me a solid
answer on this point.)
I have 925 manual(s) and control code info somewhere. I'll try to
get them typed in.
De
5:24 p.m.
[Richard <legalize at xmission.com>]
Mouse, do you know if the 925 and 950 share the same
control codes?
I used to know the commonly-used ones by heart, but that memory has
long bitrotted out of existence.
["J.C. Wren" <jcwren at jcwren.com>]
They do except for the status line programming and the
real-time
clock. You can use the 950 manual for 99.44% of your programming.
[Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu>]
The 950 is a superset of the 925 in functionality and
control codes.
One of the key differences is that attributes (i.e. changes to bold,
dim, etc.) on the 925 take a screen position. On the 950, they
don't. (That may be configurable on the 950; memory isn't giving me
a solid answer on this point.)
Yes, this is a major difference for many applications, and one reason
why I hated to have to use a 925 - I hate "occupy a screen position"
attribute cookies.
My memory is fuzzy on this point, but it does agree that the 950 and
925 were very similar.
Here are my private termcap file's entries for the 950 and 925,
reformatted into two columns for comparison. Looking at them now, I
see some errors (for example, the 950 really should have :hs: as well,
and I'm not sure it should have :xn:), but these are what I've been
using.
tvi950|950|televideo 950:\ tvi925|TeleVideo 925:\
:ae=\E%:\
:al=\EE:\ :al=\EE\ET:\
:am:\ :am:\
:as=\E$:\
:bl=^G:\ :bl=^G:\
:bs:\ :bs:\
:bt=\EI:\ :bt=\EI:\
:bw:\ :bw:\
:cd=\EY:\ :cd=\EY:\
:ce=\ET:\ :ce=\ET:\
:cl=^Z:\ :cl=^Z:\
:cm=\E=%+ %+ :\ :cm=\E=%+ %+ :\
:co#80:\ :co#80:\
:cr=^M:\ :cr=^M:\
:ct=\E3:\ :ct=\E3:\
:dc=\EW:\ :dc=\EW:\
:dl=\ER:\ :dl=\ER:\
:do=^V:\ :do=^V:\
:ei=\Er:\ :ei=:\
:ho=^^:\ :ho=^^:\
:hs:\
:ic=\EQ:\
:im=\Eq:\ :im=:\
:is=\E)^^\EO\E= (\E1\E= 0\E1\E= 8\E1\E= @\E1\E= H\E1\E= P\E1\E= X\E1\E= `\E1\E= h\E1\E=
n\E1:\
:is=\El\E":\
:.is=\EX\E3\E= (\E1\E= 0\E1\E= 8\E1\E= @\E1\E= H\E1\E= P\E1\E= X\E1\E= `\E1\E=
h\E1\E= n\E1\E)\E'\El\E,\E"\Ew\EN:\
:it#8:\
:kb=^H:\
:kd=^V:\
:kh=^^:\
:kl=^H:\
:kr=^L:\
:ku=^K:\
:le=^H:\ :le=^H:\
:li#24:\ :li#24:\
:mi:\ :mi:\
:ms:\
:nd=^L:\ :nd=^L:\
:nl=^J:\
:pt: :pt:\
:se=\E):\ :se=\E):\
:sf=^J:\
:so=\E(:\ :so=\E(:\
:sr=\Ej:\
:st=\E1:\ :st=\E1:\
:ta=^I:\
:up=^K:\ :up=^K:\
:vb=\Eb\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\Ed\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200:\
:vb=\Eb\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\Ed\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200\200:\
:xn:\
:xo:\
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4:32 p.m.
On 3/29/2006 at 2:45 PM der Mouse wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen a 922, so I
can't speak to that part.
I've got the manual--VT 110/220 compatible, with VT925/950 emulation.
It's been a long time since I've fooled with the 925 or 950 (or 911), but
something sticks on my mind about the 925 about there being a lmit to the
number of attribute changes (blink, highlight, etc.) per line. Am I
remembering correctly?
Cheers,
Chuck
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