11 Dec
2003
11 Dec
'03
10:41 a.m.
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular keylock power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
11 Dec
11 Dec
11:44 a.m.
Do you have the serial number? You should report it to Steve Gabaly
(SP?). He was keeping a list of all the Altair serial numbers that he could
find. I don't have his e-mail address any more but he's Obtronix on E-bay.
Joe
At 08:41 AM 12/11/03 -0800, you wrote:
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular keylock
power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
10:44 p.m.
Joe wrote:
Do you have the serial number? You should report it
to Steve Gabaly
(SP?). He was keeping a list of all the Altair serial numbers that he could
find. I don't have his e-mail address any more but he's Obtronix on E-bay.
Joe
At 08:41 AM 12/11/03 -0800, you wrote:
The system is quite distinct, The leds are multicolor, with green for
data, red address and yellow
status, The front panel has a rough hole with a radio shaack circular
key switch and a 555 mod to
repeat single step when held down. It has one of the poly 22 slot
motherboards. The one with the
stupid delron rod. I just wondered if anybody had seen it. I'd just like
to hassle the guy, There's nothing
else that can be done at this late a date.
Jim Davis.
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular
keylock power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
12 Dec
12 Dec
11:32 a.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Jim Davis wrote:
I just wondered if anybody had seen it. I'd just
like to hassle the guy,
There's nothing else that can be done at this late a date.
A good ass-kicking always makes one feel better (well, depending on which
side of the ass-kicking you're on).
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11 Dec
11 Dec
1:49 p.m.
was it an a or a b?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Davis" <jpdavis(a)gorge.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Stolen altair 8800
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular keylock
power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
2:02 p.m.
He ripped off
a bunch of other people, IMHO, Jim Willing [snip]
Speaking of ripped off and Jim Willing, has anybody heard from him, or is
perhaps willing (no pun intended) to disclose his whereabouts? --Patrick
2:23 p.m.
Jim's still around and in the same place he's
been for a while, to the
best of my knowledge. I've spoken to him on the phone a few times and he
did finally send out most of the stuff I bought from him, although I
needed to send out pre-paid shipping tags.
I'm still trying to get the last of my items but I'm pretty confident
that
I will.
What ever happened to "The Plan" for getting someone out there to relieve
Jim of this burden?
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
Good! I'm glad someone finally got in contact with him! Erik, can you do
me a favor? E-mail me off-list, I have something that Jim needs to know
about concerning my shipment.
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2:24 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com wrote:
What ever happened to "The Plan" for getting
someone out there to relieve
Jim of this burden?
Sellam took charge of collecting donations to help Jim out;
I didnt hear more after submitting my donation. Sellam?
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2:37 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com
wrote:
I never received any donations from anyone.
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What ever happened to "The Plan" for
getting someone out there to relieve
Jim of this burden?
Sellam took charge of collecting donations to help Jim out;
I didnt hear more after submitting my donation. Sellam?
2:44 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
No, I said I submitted it, I didnt say
I gave you cash, which is
kinda hard, physially, right now :) I did tell you about being
able to pick it up from my bank, tho :)
(moot point anyway; you didnt have time, and I'm going to drag
your behind through fry's next week anyways ;-)
[yes, good plan: fry's for christmas]
*snicker*
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Sellam took
charge of collecting donations to help Jim out;
I didnt hear more after submitting my donation. Sellam?
I never received any donations from anyone.
2:55 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
No, I said I submitted it, I didnt say
I gave you cash, which is
kinda hard, physially, right now :) I did tell you about being
able to pick it up from my bank, tho :)
Oh right, sorry :( It's been a while since that discussion.
Sellam
took charge of collecting donations to help Jim out;
I didnt hear more after submitting my donation. Sellam?
I never received any donations from anyone. (moot point anyway; you didnt have time, and I'm
going to drag
your behind through fry's next week anyways ;-)
Can I be nude and shout obscenities?
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3:16 p.m.
On Thursday 11 December 2003 12:55, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
---snip---snip---
Can I be nude and shout obscenities?
Hey, we'll all come and take pictures.....
Lyle
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8:24 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Lyle Bickley wrote:
On Thursday 11 December 2003 12:55, Vintage Computer
Festival wrote:
I'll be sure to pierce my nipples the day before.
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
---snip---snip---
Can I be nude and shout obscenities?
Hey, we'll all come and take pictures..... 
8:52 p.m.
New subject: Way OT (but still funny). (Was: Re: Stolen altair 8800)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> I'll be sure to pierce my nipples the day before.
>
What? *Just* your nipples? What a pansy!
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12 Dec
12 Dec
12:16 a.m.
New subject: Way OT (but still funny). (Was: Re: Stolen altair 8800)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, David Vohs wrote:
I already had the Prince Albert done.
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On Thu, 11 Dec
2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> I'll be sure to pierce my nipples the day before.
>
What? *Just* your nipples? What a pansy! 
11 Dec
11 Dec
3:25 p.m.
New subject: Jim Willing, was: Re: Stolen altair 8800
[Pretty much everybody is writing about Jim Willing]
Hey guys, does it really hurt to change the subject line ?
This has nothing to do with a stolen altair, and Jim has probably enough
problems. He doesn't need another one being in the archives as having
something to do with a stolen box ...
3:55 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Yes, you can, as far as *I* am concerned :)
Fred
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(moot point
anyway; you didnt have time, and I'm going to drag
your behind through fry's next week anyways ;-)
Can I be nude and shout obscenities? 
4:06 p.m.
I think it would be a good idea though not to be carrying the Stolen
Altair as indicated in the subject line :).
"Fred N. van Kempen" wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Yes, you can, as far as *I* am concerned :)
Fred
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(moot
point anyway; you didnt have time, and I'm going to drag
your behind through fry's next week anyways ;-)
Can I be nude and shout obscenities? 
4:53 p.m.
New subject: IRC! was RE: Stolen altair 8800
(moot point
anyway; you didnt have time, and I'm going to drag
your behind through fry's next week anyways ;-)
Can I be nude and shout
obscenities?
2:36 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com wrote:
What ever happened to "The Plan" for getting
someone out there to relieve
Jim of this burden?
I must admit I dropped the ball on this due to VCF 6.0 and trying to keep
my new business afloat. However, I plan to get back on this within a week
or so (it's been nagging at me).
Jim has certainly (hopefully) had enough time to stabilize his affairs by
now.
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2:47 p.m.
Jim's still around and in the same place he's
been for a while, to the
best of my knowledge. I've spoken to him on the phone a few times and he
did finally send out most of the stuff I bought from him, although I
needed to send out pre-paid shipping tags.
Could you please send this information? I have been trying to contact him
for a long time via email - only sometimes do I get a response - and I
have to arrange to ship back a large quantity of older 6800 based
hardware/software/docs that were part of a failed deal we were working
out. I sent several boxes some time ago, and when everything was sent, he
was going to send me a fair amount of money for the pile. Things, as we
see, did not go to plan.
If I don't have the stuff back by Springtime, I may swing by on my annual
NY to CA run.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
1:49 p.m.
email me his name off list please.....
ed sharpe archivist for smecc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Davis" <jpdavis(a)gorge.net>
To: <General Discussion :>; "On-Topic Posts Only"
<cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Stolen altair 8800
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular keylock
power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
12 Dec
12 Dec
11:15 a.m.
I still need the mane of the altair thief....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Davis" <jpdavis(a)gorge.net>
To: <General Discussion :>; "On-Topic Posts Only"
<cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Stolen altair 8800
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular keylock
power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
12:11 p.m.
pardon me... I meant I still need the name of the altair thief... not he
mane ecch! I think my keyboard motor skills are getting worse.
----- Original Message -----
From: "vrs" <vrs(a)msn.com>
To: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Stolen altair 8800
here
I still need
the mane of the altair thief....
You can have the scalp as far as I'm concerned, but there may be others who wanted it :-).
Vince
4 May
4 May
8:52 a.m.
Do you have the serial number? You should report it to Steve Gabaly
(SP?). He was keeping a list of all the Altair serial numbers that he could
find. I don't have his e-mail address any more but he's Obtronix on E-bay.
Joe
At 08:41 AM 12/11/03 -0800, you wrote:
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular keylock
power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
10:26 a.m.
Where the hell did that come from???? I sent that message OVER a year ago!
Joe
At 09:52 AM 5/4/04 -0400, you wrote:
Do you have the serial number? You should report it
to Steve Gabaly
(SP?). He was keeping a list of all the Altair serial numbers that he could
find. I don't have his e-mail address any more but he's Obtronix on E-bay.
Joe
At 08:41 AM 12/11/03 -0800, you wrote:
Has anyone seen an altair 8800 with a circular
keylock power switch, I
would like to track down the bastard
that ripped me off a long time ago.
This was in Oregon, 20 years from before, He ripped off a bunch of other
people, IMHO, Jim Willing and Mike Boyd.
His position was last reported in Eugene, that was years ago.
Jim Davis.
12:27 p.m.
At 11:36 AM 5/4/04 -0400, you wrote:
No five months ago it also made a reappearance. I think I originally
sent it about 1 1/2 or 2 years ago.
Joe
Where the hell
did that come from???? I sent that message OVER a year
ago!
Well... Actually about 5 months ago (checked my archives), but I was
wondering
the same thing!
12:35 p.m.
I'd venture a guess of this as the originating machine from the headers:
Received: from afdldashlas (73.151.202.68.cfl.rr.com [68.202.151.73])
by ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i44Du683015611
for
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
Anything there look recognizable?
David
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Joe R. wrote:
At 11:36 AM 5/4/04 -0400, you wrote:
No five months ago it also made a reappearance. I think I originally
sent it about 1 1/2 or 2 years ago.
Joe
Where the
hell did that come from???? I sent that message OVER a year
ago!
Well... Actually about 5 months ago (checked my archives), but I was
wondering
the same thing!
12:48 p.m.
I'd venture a guess of this as the originating
machine from the headers:
Received: from afdldashlas (73.151.202.68.cfl.rr.com [68.202.151.73])
by ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id
i44Du683015611 for
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
Anything there look recognizable?
David
It looks like the following (from the message in December), except
for the SMTP id, AND the SMTP server itself. Very weird.
Received: from afdldashlas (73.151.202.68.cfl.rr.com [68.202.151.73])
by ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id
hBBHi278009495
for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:44:03 -0500 (EST)
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5 May
7:48 p.m.
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Zane H. Healy wrote:
It's probably the dude who stole the Altair messing with Joe just to rub
it in some more.
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I'd venture
a guess of this as the originating machine from the headers:
Received: from afdldashlas (73.151.202.68.cfl.rr.com [68.202.151.73])
by ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id
i44Du683015611 for
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
Anything there look recognizable?
David
It looks like the following (from the message in December), except
for the SMTP id, AND the SMTP server itself. Very weird.
Received: from afdldashlas (73.151.202.68.cfl.rr.com [68.202.151.73])
by ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id
hBBHi278009495
for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:44:03 -0500 (EST) 
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