24 Apr
2006
24 Apr
'06
2:37 a.m.
Ohh boy, if I can not use the HSC70, even if the CI board L0009
is installed in the VAX without the CI750 (which is a complete
cabinets in its own), I think I will try to sell the HSC70 to get
some money back spent on the transportation on the system ...
I really don't have the space for yet an other cabinet :-(
I downloaded DUNGEON, but I mean Zork. Are those two (almost)
identical? I never saw Zork, just read about it in an article.
I will check out DUNGEON and ADVENT in RT-11 is a couple of
weeks. I will also take the time to read through the updated
manual (I know, ... I have it on a stack "todo" things).
- Henk.
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Subject: RE: VAX ADVENTURE, was Re: RL02 problem
"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote:
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$ zem /li
-- System games --
Game Release Serial Inform Z-Machine
ADVENT 5 961209 6.05 5
AMFV 77 850814 4
BALLYHOO 97 851218 3
BEYONDZOR 57 871221 5
BOMBER 3 971123 6.13 5
BORDERZON 9 871008 5
BUREAUCRA 116 870602 4
CUTTHROAT 23 840809 3
DEADLINE 27 831005 3
DOGSLIFE 1 981015 6.15 5
DUNGEON 12 990623 6.14 5
ENCHANTER 29 860820 3
HITCHHIKE 31 871119 5
HOLLYWOOD 37 861215 3
INFIDEL 22 830916 3
LEATHER 59 860730 3
LURKING 203 870506 3
MOONMIST 9 861022 3
NORDANDBE 19 870722 4
PLANETFAL 37 851003 3
PLUNDERER 26 870730 3
SAMEGAME 1 980731 6.15 5
SEASTALKE 16 850603 3
SHERLOCK 21 871214 5
SORCERER 15 851108 3
SPACEZ 1 980710 6.15 5
SPELLBREA 87 860904 3
STARCROSS 17 821021 3
STATIONFA 107 870430 3
SUSPECT 14 841005 3
SUSPENDED 8 840521 3
TRINITY 12 860926 4
WISHBRING 69 850920 3
WITNESS 22 840924 3
ZOKOBAN 1 990810 6.21 5
ZORK1 88 840726 3
ZORK2 48 840904 3
ZORK3 17 840727 3
ZTUU 16 970828 6.13 5
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Cool! Thanks Jim.
Ethan's and your response have exact the same hh:mm time stamp!
(at least on my computer).
For my 11/750 I will need a copy of some OpenVMS version
first, because I >
promised to wipe the disks, otherwise I
could only get the system without > the disks. I wanted the
cab with the three RA81's too, and the HSC70, > although I
am not sure if the HSC70 will ever be useful as the L0009 and
internal cabling is not in the 11/750.
And I have read that you need besides the L0009 more stuff
... need to find >
out what the HSC70 requires, and maybe I
come to the conclusion that the > HSC70 is only taking up
space ... I am not planning to build a cluster > (don't know
anything about that stuff either), but ... never say never > :-)
The HSC will require a CI750, which is a whole cabinet of it's own.
If you don't have that one, you're out of luck.
I posted a request for Zork (PDP-11) on Amazon a
year ago,
but > never had any response. So, your link to the VMS
version is great!
Hmm. I saw that ZEMU was mentioned later in this discussion
as well, but let me start by asking if you're talking about
the Infocom commercial release, or the FORTRAN port called
DUNGEON is what you're thinking of?
Anyway, ZEMU exists, and works just fine. However, Megan have
not done anything in a long while, so I'm not sure if it
works as is on RT-11 or not. If someone who have RT-11 is
willing to look at it, I'd be grateful.
The RSX version is just fine, though. Anyone who wants to
try, just log into MIM.
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Trying 130.238.19.211...
Connected to mim.update.uu.se.
Escape character is '^]'.
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Revision history:
16-Jan-03 Backport to RSX-11M-PLUS (V3.2C).
20-Oct-94 Bug fixes (V3.2B).
01-Oct-94 Bug fixes (V3.2A).
01-Feb-94 Portable VMS/UNIX version (V3.1A).
01-Jan-90 Portable version (V3.0A).
18-Oct-80 Revised DECUS version (V2.6A).
18-Jul-80 Transportable data base file (V2.5A).
28-Feb-80 Compressed text file (V2.4A).
15-Nov-79 Bug fixes (V2.3A).
18-Jan-79 Revised DECUS version (V2.2A).
10-Oct-78 Puzzle Room (V2.1A).
10-Sep-78 Endgame (V2.0A).
10-Aug-78 DECUS version (V1.1B).
14-Jun-78 Public version with parser (V1.1A).
04-Mar-78 Debugging version (V1.0A).
quit
Your score would be 0 [total of 616
points], in 2 moves.
This gives you the rank of Beginner.
Do you wish to leave the game?
y
Ok.
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24 Apr
24 Apr
8:54 a.m.
Gooijen, Henk wrote:
Ohh boy, if I can not use the HSC70, even if the CI
board L0009
is installed in the VAX without the CI750 (which is a complete
cabinets in its own), I think I will try to sell the HSC70 to get
some money back spent on the transportation on the system ...
I really don't have the space for yet an other cabinet :-(
I downloaded DUNGEON, but I mean Zork. Are those two (almost)
identical? I never saw Zork, just read about it in an article.
I will check out DUNGEON and ADVENT in RT-11 is a couple of
weeks. I will also take the time to read through the updated
manual (I know, ... I have it on a stack "todo" things).
Henk,
I don't know if it is the DUNGEON you have, but the following sort of
implies that Zork and DUNGEON are the same game. It's the READ_ME file
from the 2.11BSD Zork "source" directory:
This is a patched up RT-11 binary which ran on an LSI-11.
This program was originally distributed on a Purdue mailing and
was full of bugs. Many bugs in that distribution have been fixed.
This is not a pristine, elegent implemention but it works!
DUNGEON expects following files:
/usr/chris/dungeon/zork UNIX a.out file for Dungeon root
segment and RT-11 Fortran Runtime
/usr/chris/dungeon/dtext.dat Text file in random access-format
/usr/chris/dungeon/dindex.dat Indicies (probably into dtext.dat)
/usr/chris/dungeon/doverlay Original RT-11 DUNGEO.SAV
(reads overlays from here)
If you don't like these pathnames, "dungeon.c" may be modified to
reflect the desired names. Pathnames were originally in "o.s" but
"dungeon.c" was implemented at Purdue as an easier way to change them
than patching binaries. However, we have standardized the d/o.s
interface. It now would be an simple task to put pathnames in o.s
if one so desired.
Other files of interest:
dungeon.c C program with date and UID check and exec of dungeon.
o.s Assembler driver to make dungeon run under UNIX.
Loads overlays, save/restore games, etc. This must
be relocated to 0146000 and stuck on the end of the
dungeon binary file "d". (We don't have sources)
p1 sh file to patch up a.out file "dung" so interface
between "d" and "o.s" works.
1.s kludge file to achive . = .+ 0146000
mkovl sh file to make overlay driver, attach it to "d",
and make a UNIX a.out file by attaching the
proper header.
--ccw
11:33 a.m.
I downloaded DUNGEON, but I mean Zork. Are those two
(almost)
identical?
Yes and no. I've actually seen either name used for the same thing, so
the answer can be "yes"...but there also is the commercial text
advernture games under the Zork name (from Infocom, IIRC). They are a
three-parter, where the first part is about 75% lifted from DUNGEON and
25% new, the second is about 50/50, and the third 75% new.
IMO all of them are well worth playing.
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12:39 p.m.
In article <447524F844B59D48B8F7AE7F560935EE066816B7 at
OVL-EXBE01.ocevenlo.oce.net>,
"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> writes:
I downloaded DUNGEON, but I mean Zork. Are those two
(almost)
identical? I never saw Zork, just read about it in an article.
I will check out DUNGEON and ADVENT in RT-11 is a couple of
weeks. I will also take the time to read through the updated
manual (I know, ... I have it on a stack "todo" things).
Fuzzy memory says that DUNGEON was more than ADVENT and less than Zork
in terms of the scope of the game.
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Richard wrote:
In article <447524F844B59D48B8F7AE7F560935EE066816B7
at OVL-EXBE01.ocevenlo.oce.net>,
"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> writes:
Dungeon was the original.
Advent is unrelated to zork, except maybe as inspiration.
Zork (the commercial version) was created by breaking dungeon into
three parts, with additional stuff thrown in to fill out the three
sections, and making an end-point in each. Many locations are identical.
I downloaded DUNGEON, but I mean Zork. Are those
two (almost)
identical? I never saw Zork, just read about it in an article.
I will check out DUNGEON and ADVENT in RT-11 is a couple of
weeks. I will also take the time to read through the updated
manual (I know, ... I have it on a stack "todo" things).
Fuzzy memory says that DUNGEON was more than ADVENT and less than Zork
in terms of the scope of the game.
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