17 Mar
2006
17 Mar
'06
5:34 p.m.
Got a box of SCSI drives a while back, and in there is one that's apparently
18G, but it's marked "LV-D" which from my understanding of things won't
work
with anything I have here. Can any of you guys use this?
Ideal for me would be a trade for something roughly comparable in size...
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17 Mar
17 Mar
5:50 p.m.
Roy J. Tellason wrote:
Got a box of SCSI drives a while back, and in there
is one that's apparently
18G, but it's marked "LV-D" which from my understanding of things
won't work
with anything I have here. Can any of you guys use this?
Ideal for me would be a trade for something roughly comparable in size...
Most likely Low Voltage Differential.
Many LVD drives can also be run single-ended (either by autosensing
the connection *or* with a strapping option on the drive).
Without a model number, it's hard to tell.
--don
18 Mar
18 Mar
2:11 p.m.
On Friday 17 March 2006 05:50 pm, Don Y wrote:
Roy J. Tellason wrote:
What I was thinking...
Got a box of SCSI drives a while back, and in
there is one that's
apparently 18G, but it's marked "LV-D" which from my understanding of
things won't work with anything I have here. Can any of you guys use
this?
Ideal for me would be a trade for something roughly comparable in size...
Most likely Low Voltage Differential. Many LVD drives can also be run single-ended (either
by autosensing
the connection *or* with a strapping option on the drive).
Without a model number, it's hard to tell.
I don't know why (and can't seem to lay hands on the book I was using for
reference in this) I assumed that it couldn't be used single-ended. The
model is IBM DNES-318350 E182115 F, and yeah, it does say "LVD/SE" on
there. :-0
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ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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M Dakin
10:56 p.m.
I have a bunch of these drives and I use them in my SGI systems.
I've never been able to find a controller that let's me use them in a
PC. If you find one that works, I would appreciate hearing about.
Thanks
Rob
On Mar 18, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
On Friday 17 March 2006 05:50 pm, Don Y wrote:
Roy J. Tellason wrote:
What I was thinking...
Got a box of SCSI drives a while back, and in
there is one that's
apparently 18G, but it's marked "LV-D" which from my
understanding of
things won't work with anything I have here. Can any of you guys
use
this?
Ideal for me would be a trade for something roughly comparable in
size...
Most likely Low Voltage Differential. Many LVD drives can also be run single-ended
(either by autosensing
the connection *or* with a strapping option on the drive).
Without a model number, it's hard to tell.
I don't know why (and can't seem to lay hands on the book I was
using for
reference in this) I assumed that it couldn't be used single-
ended. The
model is IBM DNES-318350 E182115 F, and yeah, it does say "LVD/
SE" on
there. :-0
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet
Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by
lies. --James
M Dakin
11:01 p.m.
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:56:44PM -0500, Robert Borsuk wrote:
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I have a bunch of these drives and I use them in my
SGI systems.
I've never been able to find a controller that let's me use them in a
PC. If you find one that works, I would appreciate hearing about.
They work great with an Adaptec 2940(UW/U2W), Symbios 53c8xx
controllers, and everything else I've tried in a PC.
You might need a good cable though (may need to have a proper
active terminator at the end).
Pat
>Many LVD
drives can also be run single-ended (either by autosensing
>the connection *or* with a strapping option on the drive).
>Without a model number, it's hard to tell.
On Mar 18, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
>
>I don't know why (and can't seem to lay hands on the book I was
>using for
>reference in this) I assumed that it couldn't be used single-
>ended. The
>model is IBM DNES-318350 E182115 F, and yeah, it does say "LVD/
>SE" on
>there. :-0 
19 Mar
19 Mar
5:15 p.m.
Pat's right on (of course). I have a lot of LVD drives on Adaptec
2940UW controllers, and also on LSI MegaRAID controllers (475, etc).
That's a very common interface, actually.
Beware the 2944 controller however. Not the same. It's HVD, and an LVD
drive and HVD controller will make short work of one, the other, or both
if connected.
Patrick
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:56:44PM -0500, Robert
Borsuk wrote:
>I have a bunch of these drives and I use them in my SGI systems.
>I've never been able to find a controller that let's me use them in a
>PC. If you find one that works, I would appreciate hearing about.
20 Mar
20 Mar
4:29 p.m.
Patrick/VCM SysOp wrote:
Pat's right on (of course). I have a lot of LVD
drives on Adaptec
2940UW controllers, and also on LSI MegaRAID controllers (475, etc).
That's a very common interface, actually.
Beware the 2944 controller however. Not the same. It's HVD, and an LVD
drive and HVD controller will make short work of one, the other, or both
if connected.
My tape changer came with 2 2944 controllers. It's a Quantum ATL-7100
changer with 2 DLT 7000 drives in it. I'd very much like to run it on
non-2944 drives. Anyone know how to get the HVD drives to interoperate
with normal drives/controllers? I'm guessing that the quantum drives can
be reconfigured, but I'm not sure about the changer hardware.
pictures here:
http://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-atl7100
play here:
http://p2.rikers.org/cgi-bin/changer.cgi
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21 Mar
21 Mar
3:58 a.m.
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:29:38 -0700
Tim Riker <Tim at rikers.org> wrote:
Anyone know how to get the HVD drives to interoperate
with normal drives/controllers?
There are HVD-SE converters. E.g. DEC made them as
a stand alone version
and as SSB for the Storage Works shelfes. It is just a box HVD on one
seide and SE on the other.
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25 Mar
25 Mar
11:17 a.m.
Hi, Tim,
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On 20-Mar-06 at 14:29 Tim Riker wrote:
<snippety-one>
My tape changer came with 2 2944 controllers. It's
a Quantum ATL-7100
changer with 2 DLT 7000 drives in it. I'd very much like to run it on
non-2944 drives. Anyone know how to get the HVD drives to interoperate
with normal drives/controllers? I'm guessing that the quantum drives can
be reconfigured, but I'm not sure about the changer hardware.
The only way I know of to safely do so is to use a single-ended (or LVD) to HVD converter
on the specific device that needs it.
Rancho Technology still makes such units. Check this link...
http://www.rancho.com/Products.aspx?ID=1&Model=RTBLVD-HVD&CatID=1
Happy hunting.
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27 Mar
27 Mar
1:13 p.m.
Bruce Lane wrote:
The only way I know of to safely do so is to use a
single-ended (or LVD) to HVD converter on the specific device that needs it.
Rancho Technology still makes such units. Check this link...
http://www.rancho.com/Products.aspx?ID=1&Model=RTBLVD-HVD&CatID=1
Looks like that would do it, but at $389 I'm not planning to pick one
up. Thanx anyway.
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19 Mar
19 Mar
11:19 p.m.
In article <20060319040149.GC23112 at ned.cc.purdue.edu>,
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> writes:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:56:44PM -0500, Robert
Borsuk wrote:
I have 7 Adaptec 2940W/2940UW PCI cards, if anyone wants them for the
cost of shipping.
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I have a bunch of these drives and I use them in
my SGI systems.
I've never been able to find a controller that let's me use them in a
PC. If you find one that works, I would appreciate hearing about.
They work great with an Adaptec 2940(UW/U2W), Symbios 53c8xx
controllers, and everything else I've tried in a PC. 
11:37 p.m.
Richard wrote:
In article <20060319040149.GC23112 at
ned.cc.purdue.edu>,
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> writes:
How about one of each? I don't want to be a pig ... Also, do you still
have the IBM 5161 Expansion transmitter card laying around? Our
conversation kind of died out last time ...
Mike
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:56:44PM -0500, Robert
Borsuk wrote:
I have 7 Adaptec 2940W/2940UW PCI cards, if anyone wants them for the
cost of shipping. I have a bunch of these drives and I use them in
my SGI systems.
I've never been able to find a controller that let's me use them in a
PC. If you find one that works, I would appreciate hearing about.
They work great with an Adaptec 2940(UW/U2W), Symbios 53c8xx
controllers, and everything else I've tried in a PC.
11:52 p.m.
In article <441E3197.7060004 at brutman.com>,
"Michael B. Brutman" <mbbrutman-cctalk at brutman.com> writes:
Just to clarify, this is a single card that says Adaptec 2940W/2940UW
on it. It has two connectors internal and one connector external.
The external connector says SCSI SE on it.
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I have 7
Adaptec 2940W/2940UW PCI cards, if anyone wants them for the
cost of shipping.
How about one of each?
20 Mar
20 Mar
10:51 p.m.
New subject: Cat Weasel on the bay
All this talk, and like magic, one shows up.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Catweasel-MK4-for-Amiga-and-PC-
NEW_W0QQitemZ8784158924QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Rob
ps. Item 8784158924 in case the link doesn't work.
11:20 p.m.
New subject: Cat Weasel on the bay
In article <38BC780D-0577-4D83-A0EE-25686EC4514A at colourfull.com>,
Robert Borsuk <rborsuk at colourfull.com> writes:
All this talk, and like magic, one shows up.
Hrm. $128 starting bid? For an extra $4 I might as well buy one new.
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21 Mar
21 Mar
5:31 a.m.
New subject: Cat Weasel on the bay
Like buses there are 2 this one starts at 99p
item no. 8784157220
Dan
11:50 p.m.
OK, offers are already coming in for those Adaptec cards ;-).
I will make good on the offer, just understand that you're in a queue
behind those who asked for the PCMCIA cards that I offered. Yes, I'm
finally getting to those, maybe this week.
After that trixter is getting some stuff and then I can send out a
list of what's left of the other cards from the big purge of 2006 at
work :-). I haven't counted all of them, but I think I have about 150
cards of the ISA and PCI variety. Mostly NICs, sound and SCSI, but
also a few other weird things in there.
I'm happy to disperse them to cctalk'ers, just please understand that
you'll need a little patience with me! :-) If there is some "I need
it now to fix blah blah blah" sort of need, please make that clear in
any email to me.
Thanks!
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24 Mar
24 Mar
7:03 a.m.
Plenty of LVD compatible PC-based host adapters available. The Tekram DC390U/W comes
immediately to mind, as does Adaptec's AHA2940U2W.
Happy hunting.
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On 18-Mar-06 at 22:56 Robert Borsuk wrote:
I have a bunch of these drives and I use them in my SGI
systems.
I've never been able to find a controller that let's me use them in a
PC. If you find one that works, I would appreciate hearing about.
Thanks
Rob
On Mar 18, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
> On Friday 17 March 2006 05:50 pm, Don Y wrote:
>> Roy J. Tellason wrote:
>>> Got a box of SCSI drives a while back, and in there is one that's
>>> apparently 18G, but it's marked "LV-D" which from my
>>> understanding of
>>> things won't work with anything I have here. Can any of you guys
>>> use
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Ideal for me would be a trade for something roughly comparable in
>>> size...
>>
>> Most likely Low Voltage Differential.
>
> What I was thinking...
>
>> Many LVD drives can also be run single-ended (either by autosensing
>> the connection *or* with a strapping option on the drive).
>> Without a model number, it's hard to tell.
>
> I don't know why (and can't seem to lay hands on the book I was
> using for
> reference in this) I assumed that it couldn't be used single-
> ended. The
> model is IBM DNES-318350 E182115 F, and yeah, it does say "LVD/
> SE" on
> there. :-0
>
> --
> Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
> ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
> be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet
> Masters"
> -
> Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by
> lies. --James
> M Dakin
>
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