19 Apr
2010
19 Apr
'10
9:57 a.m.
Towards the end of last year, the Manx documentation catalogue was
pronounced dead by its maintainer and taken offline. Understandably,
many pleas for a dump of the database followed, and this was
subsequently made available. Thankfully the site was soon up again,
although no longer maintained and apparently missing a few PDFs.
Since then it seems to have gone quiet. Did anyone end up doing
anything with the dump, or were all the requests for this simply to
ensure that the raw data was preserved?
Cheers,
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19 Apr
19 Apr
12:52 p.m.
In article <z2ofc5d5e3c1004190657pf10dcda5mae6b4a536805203b at mail.gmail.com>,
Steve Maddison <steve at cosam.org> writes:
Towards the end of last year, the Manx documentation
catalogue was
pronounced dead by its maintainer and taken offline. Understandably,
many pleas for a dump of the database followed, and this was
subsequently made available.
My attempts to get a dump of the database failed. Where is it?
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1:31 p.m.
Richard [legalize at xmission.com] wrote:
My attempts to get a dump of the database failed.
Where is it?
http://hisdeedsaredust.com/2009/10/manx-dumps/
9:27 p.m.
In article <D8FDFAE7708E494F8328C93CE116BDA4 at ANTONIOPC>,
<arcarlini at iee.org> writes:
Richard [legalize at xmission.com] wrote:
"Dump" is right.
Without an explanation of the schema this isn't very useful.
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My attempts to get a dump of the database failed.
Where is it?
http://hisdeedsaredust.com/2009/10/manx-dumps/
20 Apr
20 Apr
8:52 a.m.
Richard wrote:
"Dump" is right.
Without an explanation of the schema this isn't very useful.
It's not that bad. The data model is pretty simple (I count only 11
tables) and the field names are reasonably descriptive. It wouldn't be
too hard to make sense of it.
The blog post announcing the dump hinted that some kind of description
of the database would follow, as would documentation of the various
code and scripts. This was last October though, so I'm not holding my
breath.
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4:55 p.m.
In article <h2sfc5d5e3c1004200552me0d6baft4026a602b107e084 at mail.gmail.com>,
Steve Maddison <steve at cosam.org> writes:
Richard wrote:
Well, I don't have time to invest in reverse engineering someone's
schema in order to do something with it. The bar for contributing is
pretty high right now. I'm happy to collaborate with someone who has
put in the time to figure out the schema and now can explain it to me
so we can collaborate on some code for a community site that allows
expansion without central authority.
I think that was the downfall of the original manx. It required
everything to go through a single person who eventually became too
busy and/or uninterested. If we had something to which we could all
contribute as a community, I think it would have more legs.
Eventually it'd be nice to just fold it into bitsavers proper.
"Dump" is right.
Without an explanation of the schema this isn't very useful.
It's not that bad. The data model is pretty simple (I count only 11
tables) and the field names are reasonably descriptive. It wouldn't be
too hard to make sense of it. The blog post announcing the dump hinted that some
kind of description
of the database would follow, as would documentation of the various
code and scripts. This was last October though, so I'm not holding my
breath.
Yep, saw that.
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21 Apr
21 Apr
3:53 a.m.
Richard wrote:
Well, I don't have time to invest in reverse
engineering someone's
schema in order to do something with it. ?The bar for contributing is
pretty high right now. ?I'm happy to collaborate with someone who has
put in the time to figure out the schema and now can explain it to me
so we can collaborate on some code for a community site that allows
expansion without central authority.
I'll have a stab at this over the next few days. Picking out the
foreign keys shouldn't be too difficult, but I'm not planning to go
into great detail, just enough to understand the current situation. A
new front-end wouldn't necessarily need to use an identical data
model, after all.
I think that was the downfall of the original manx.
?It required
everything to go through a single person who eventually became too
busy and/or uninterested. ?If we had something to which we could all
contribute as a community, I think it would have more legs.
Couldn't agree more.
Eventually it'd be nice to just fold it into
bitsavers proper.
I don't know if that's a good thing to aim for (as in I actually do
not know, I'm by no means against it).
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6:47 a.m.
Steve Maddison wrote:
Richard wrote:
Here's what I make of it, based purely on the table definitions as yet.
http://sources.cosam.org/svn/manx/manx_dm_orig.pdf
There's a Visio file in the same directory. A lot of it is pretty
self-explanatory, but that PUBHISTORY table could use some
deciphering. I'll look into that next.
I don't want to bore the entire list with the gory details. If this
starts getting much more involved, it may be appreciated if the
discussion were to continue elsewhere...
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Well, I don't have time to invest in reverse
engineering someone's
schema in order to do something with it. ?The bar for contributing is
pretty high right now. ?I'm happy to collaborate with someone who has
put in the time to figure out the schema and now can explain it to me
so we can collaborate on some code for a community site that allows
expansion without central authority.
I'll have a stab at this over the next few days. Picking out the
foreign keys shouldn't be too difficult, but I'm not planning to go
into great detail, just enough to understand the current situation.
11:14 a.m.
In article <w2hfc5d5e3c1004210347t8372e0ceu801cfa52693a63d at mail.gmail.com>,
Steve Maddison <steve at cosam.org> writes:
Here's what I make of it, based purely on the
table definitions as yet.
http://sources.cosam.org/svn/manx/manx_dm_orig.pdf
I get no response from that host.
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12:06 p.m.
Richard wrote:
? ?Steve Maddison ?writes:
Odd. It certainly appears to be up from here. If you still can't reach
it, let me know and I'll mail it. I also uploaded my annotated version
of the table definitions (chop off the file name for a directory
index).
Anyone else have trouble reaching this?
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Here's what I make of it, based purely on the
table definitions as yet.
? http://sources.cosam.org/svn/manx/manx_dm_orig.pdf
I get no response from that host. 
1:37 p.m.
Al Kossow wrote:
I got the document OK. Where are the URL's to the
actual documents?
The URLs are in the "COPY" table.
MANX used to reference a lot of material on bitsavers,
for example.
Or, did they just keep a local copy?
The author did have an archive of documents on the same site, which
sadly seems to have disappeared. The majority of the documents were
however just linked to. In the case of bitsavers, several mirrors are
also included.
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2:41 p.m.
look in the table COPY it has the urls to the docs
Dave Caroline
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 4/21/10 10:37 AM, Steve Maddison wrote:
The author did have an archive of documents on
the same site, which
sadly seems to have disappeared.
It would be good to sort out the sources and make sure the non-bitsavers
material is rounded up.
2:46 p.m.
select sum(size) from COPY;
+-------------+
| sum(size) |
+-------------+
| 53420366153 |
+-------------+
for your interest the space required :)
Dave Caroline
6:13 p.m.
Dave Caroline wrote:
select sum(size) from COPY;
+-------------+
| sum(size) |
+-------------+
| 53420366153 |
+-------------+
for your interest the space required :)
50GB? That's not too bad. The GCC Subversion repository (including all
change history) is about 12GB, and that "only" took two days to download.
Thank $DEITY for always-on servers and DC-rail battery back-up (yep, the
server runs from 12V DC).
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4:49 p.m.
In article <i2zfc5d5e3c1004210906ka76ead72nd674948188aaf1f1 at mail.gmail.com>,
Steve Maddison <steve at cosam.org> writes:
Richard wrote:
Seems it was a temporary outage.
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Odd. It certainly appears to be up from here. [...] Here's what I make of it, based purely on the
table definitions as yet.
=A0 http://sources.cosam.org/svn/manx/manx_dm_orig.pdf
I get no response from that host.
5:49 p.m.
So, assuming the way forward is to build a new system to host this
information, what kind of features would people like to see? A few
things I've been mulling over:
* Search on part numbers, document numbers, keywords, etc. Globally
and per manufacturer.
* Interface through which documents and related data (TOC, etc.) can
be submitted, individually or in bulk.
* Some kind of moderation/approval system for above.
* Interfaces/scripts to (partially) automate submissions via feeds
from known archives.
* Replication of the entire
system to mirrors, or at least the ability
to pack the whole shebang up and move it to a different host with
relative ease.
* Ability to upload images of components/modules/machines.
As far as design goes, I'm thinking along the lines of a central
library that can be used by both a web-based front end and any scripts
necessary for maintenance.
Where do we go from here? I'd be happy to contribute in terms of
design, coding and hosting of a version control repository, maybe even
the finished system itself.
Cheers,
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6:35 p.m.
Steve Maddison wrote:
So, assuming the way forward is to build a new system
to host this
information, what kind of features would people like to see? A few
things I've been mulling over:
At the risk of provoking a bout of "creeping featurism", it would be
nice if this system could track books, journals and so forth, and not
just reference manuals.
That is, it would be nice to have the option of:
- Tree-based navigation. So I could navigate through, say:
BYTE => 1979 => January => [TOC]
- Tables of contents (where available) for books, journals, etc.
Very handy when you're looking for a specific article and don't
know where it is.
- Open-source, with as few dependencies as possible. PHP+PDO would
be my choice (maybe PHP+CodeIgniter). Should be possible to install
a version on a "home" server or desktop machine (Linux/OSX box?) to
play with.
- XML-based API. Make the data available to other systems. Maybe limit
this to registered users to prevent (or at least reduce the
likelihood of) data-scraping and the associated bandwidth/CPU costs.
* Replication of the entire system to mirrors, or at
least the ability
to pack the whole shebang up and move it to a different host with
relative ease.
Mysqldump and a 15-minute (or whatever) period each day when the DBs
sync against each other?
Where do we go from here? I'd be happy to
contribute in terms of
design, coding and hosting of a version control repository, maybe even
the finished system itself.
I'd be happy to contribute hosting, development time and such. PHP, PDO,
Smarty, MySQL and occasionally CodeIgniter are my "weapons of choice"
for webapps, and I'm a total grammar and standards-compliance Nazi -- if
I see a typo or a glitch that breaks HTML/CSS validation, I WILL fix it.
I don't do AJAX, but I'm willing to learn (there are two O'Reilly AJAX
books on my desk waiting to be read).
As long as it doesn't kill my server (it's a quad Xeon with 500GB RAID1
HDD and 8GB RAM, so "not likely"), I'm fine with it.
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22 Apr
22 Apr
8:53 a.m.
Philip Pemberton wrote:
Probably something along those lines - it wouldn't need to be anything
like real time.
?- Tables of contents (where available) for books,
journals, etc.
? ?Very handy when you're looking for a specific article and don't
? ?know where it is.
The current data model has TOCs for a lot of documents and I'd
definitely want to keep that feature. So for books/journals, you'd get
that for free.
?- Open-source, with as few dependencies as possible.
PHP+PDO would
? ?be my choice (maybe PHP+CodeIgniter). Should be possible to install
? ?a version on a "home" server or desktop machine (Linux/OSX box?) to
? ?play with.
Open source and runable at home: certainly. But let's not get too hung
up on the technical implementation before we know what it needs to do.
I'd really like to see a core library/API which can be used by
different languages.
?- XML-based API. Make the data available to other
systems. Maybe limit
? ?this to registered users to prevent (or at least reduce the
? ?likelihood of) data-scraping and the associated bandwidth/CPU costs.
And possibly enabled/disabled at the discretion of the person hosting
a particular mirror.
* Replication
of the entire system to mirrors, or at least the ability
to pack the whole shebang up and move it to a different host with
relative ease.
Mysqldump and a 15-minute (or whatever) period each day when the DBs sync
against each other? I'd be happy to contribute hosting, development
time and such.
Great! Looks like we have a good few volunteers. I'm wondering how we
can best co-ordinate our efforts. If may be enough to simply keep
others informed of what we're thinking about and working on. Myself,
I'm going to brainstorm a bit more, but I wouldn't mind drafting a
preliminary design some time soon.
Cheers,
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http://www.cosam.org/
10:23 a.m.
Steve Maddison wrote:
Absolutely.
I can rig up mailing lists, version control hosting (I usually use
Mercurial, but the server is set up for Subversion too, IIRC) and so on
if necessary. Perhaps a Wiki too?
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The current data model has TOCs for a lot of documents
and I'd
definitely want to keep that feature. So for books/journals, you'd get
that for free.
In that case, I might be persuaded to enter the TOCs for all the
UK-edition Elektor magazines I have on-hand -- almost the complete run
from 1974 to 1986 (I'm missing May 1984, Jul/Aug
1984 and May 1986 to
Dec 1989). There are a lot of projects in there which
classiccmp'ers
might find interesting, and most central libraries seem to keep a
reasonable archive of them around.
- XML-based
API. Make the data available to other systems. Maybe limit
this to registered users to prevent (or at least reduce the
likelihood of) data-scraping and the associated bandwidth/CPU costs.
And possibly enabled/disabled at the discretion of the person hosting
a particular mirror. I'd be
happy to contribute hosting, development time and such.
Great! Looks like we have a good few volunteers. I'm wondering how we
can best co-ordinate our efforts. If may be enough to simply keep
others informed of what we're thinking about and working on. Myself,
I'm going to brainstorm a bit more, but I wouldn't mind drafting a
preliminary design some time soon.
2:17 p.m.
In article <4BD05BEC.5050107 at philpem.me.uk>,
Philip Pemberton <classiccmp at philpem.me.uk> writes:
I can rig up mailing lists, version control hosting (I
usually use
Mercurial, but the server is set up for Subversion too, IIRC) and so on
if necessary. Perhaps a Wiki too?
Mercurial + mailing list + wiki, I vote yes.
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3:08 p.m.
Philip Pemberton wrote:
I can rig up mailing lists, version control hosting (I
usually use
Mercurial, but the server is set up for Subversion too, IIRC) and so on if
necessary. Perhaps a Wiki too?
I think a wiki would be great, as would a mailing list. If you can set
that up relatively easily, I'd say go for it.
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3:32 p.m.
On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote:
I can rig up mailing lists, version control hosting (I
usually use
Mercurial, but the server is set up for Subversion too, IIRC) and
so on if necessary. Perhaps a Wiki too?
I can help with that stuff as well, should an extra pair of hands
(or a network) be needed. I've got all of those services (though
SVN, not Mercurial) running here already.
-Dave
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24 Apr
24 Apr
4:25 p.m.
Philip Pemberton wrote:
I can rig up mailing lists, version control hosting (I
usually use
Mercurial, but the server is set up for Subversion too, IIRC) and so on if
necessary. Perhaps a Wiki too?
Philip has kindly set up a mailing list for this:
http://mail.manx.philpem.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/
Please sign up there if you'd like to continue/follow the discussion.
A wiki is in the works...
Cheers,
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6:54 p.m.
A wiki is in the works...
http://manx.philpem.me.uk/wiki/
Thanks, Phil!
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29 Apr
29 Apr
5:28 p.m.
manx is now a project on codeplex: <http://manx.codeplex.com>
You can monitor status, suggest ideas, and download code (whatever
there is/will be) from there.
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20 Apr
20 Apr
7:14 p.m.
Reverse engineering it is not too hard.
I had a quick look and http://www.archivist.info/manx/ is the result
you can see the company list drill into a company and then view the
pubhistory table for that company.
Were any pages archived anywhere so I know what was doable with the data?
Dave Caroline
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Steve Maddison <steve at cosam.org> wrote:
Towards the end of last year, the Manx documentation
catalogue was
pronounced dead by its maintainer and taken offline. Understandably,
many pleas for a dump of the database followed, and this was
subsequently made available. Thankfully the site was soon up again,
although no longer maintained and apparently missing a few PDFs.
Since then it seems to have gone quiet. Did anyone end up doing
anything with the dump, or were all the requests for this simply to
ensure that the raw data was preserved?
Cheers,
--
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http://www.cosam.org/
11:17 p.m.
I hastily imported it into SQLite so I could use SQLite Manager (a Firefox
add-on) to have a look around - you can download the 10MB zipfile here of
the SQLite database (it expands to about 130MB).
http://www.retrocomputingtasmania.com/files
21 Apr
21 Apr
1:25 a.m.
In article <y2xf8782f091004201614n90417365g2e1db67406de0658 at mail.gmail.com>,
Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> writes:
Were any pages archived anywhere so I know what was
doable with the data?
By pages, do you mean the underlying scripts that ran the web site?
If so, then no I don't believe any of that source code has been
released. It was hard enough to get a database dump. That tells me
that the original author (Paul something? Sorry, I've forgotten his
name and I only have a "manx" email address for him) has basically
abandoned this and has no more energy to do anything about it.
I can sympathize because I've also been on projects that drained me to
zero and at that point you don't have any more energy to even help
people who want to continue it.
Basically, I consider it lucky that we got the database and we should
consider that any community based web site to resurrect the
functionality will have to be created from scratch.
I would contribute to such an effort, but I don't have time to
spearhead it on my own. We should organize a group of willing
contributors and divvy up the work so we can coordinate. I'd suggest
making it an open source project with distributed version control to
it as easy as possible to contribute.
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4:09 a.m.
The data could be a valid extra to the stuff I have online already
at www.collection.archivist.info
that database is a bit different as it relies on the search engine to
a greater extent.
If I add it I just need to add some updating methods.
Dave Caroline
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
In article <y2xf8782f091004201614n90417365g2e1db67406de0658 at mail.gmail.com>,
? ?Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> ?writes:
Were any pages archived anywhere so I know what
was doable with the data?
By pages, do you mean the underlying scripts that ran the web site?
If so, then no I don't believe any of that source code has been
released. ?It was hard enough to get a database dump. ?That tells me
that the original author (Paul something? ?Sorry, I've forgotten his
name and I only have a "manx" email address for him) has basically
abandoned this and has no more energy to do anything about it.
I can sympathize because I've also been on projects that drained me to
zero and at that point you don't have any more energy to even help
people who want to continue it.
Basically, I consider it lucky that we got the database and we should
consider that any community based web site to resurrect the
functionality will have to be created from scratch.
I would contribute to such an effort, but I don't have time to
spearhead it on my own. ?We should organize a group of willing
contributors and divvy up the work so we can coordinate. ?I'd suggest
making it an open source project with distributed version control to
it as easy as possible to contribute.
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4:12 a.m.
Richard wrote:
?Dave Caroline?writes:
OTOH, if you mean the output of the scripts, the originals are still online.
http://www.vt100.net/manx/
Were any pages archived anywhere so I know what
was doable with the data?
By pages, do you mean the underlying scripts that ran the web site? I would contribute to such an effort, but I don't
have time to
spearhead it on my own. ?We should organize a group of willing
contributors and divvy up the work so we can coordinate.
I'm in a similar position. The point of my original question was to
gauge whether anything had already been done and, if not, think about
what it would take to get this moving.
?I'd suggest
making it an open source project with distributed version control to
it as easy as possible to contribute.
Yes, I think openness would be the key here. I would go as far as to
suggest that a design requirement would be that the site could easily
be picked up and moved to a different host or, better yet, replicated
from the get-go.
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16 May
16 May
7:53 a.m.
On Mon, 2010-04-19 15:57:42 +0200, Steve Maddison <steve at cosam.org> wrote:
Since then it seems to have gone quiet. Did anyone end
up doing
anything with the dump, or were all the requests for this simply to
ensure that the raw data was preserved?
I've not yet done a lot with it, though I downloaded it when it was
made available and inspected it a bit.
After moving to a new flat, I actually realized how many books and
magazines my girlfriend and I own. That made me think about an
Integrated Library System (ILS), so we're thinking to use Koha[1] to
manage all our stuff. (For now, that's only like getting an overview
over all of our available books.)
Manx is, to some extend, a search frontend to a distributed library
with a number of branches (where actual data is stored, like on the
Manx site itself, or on Bitkeepers, or ...)
What's missing in a typical ILS is working on TOC data; however, I
guess that this can be added by mapping a number of MARC 21/UNIMARC
fields. So instead of hacking an own "Manx", it could be fruitful to
use something like Koha, possibly extending it a bit. Even right now,
you can attach URLs or files (eg. the PDF files) to an entry. Being
new to Koha, full-text (and TOC) searching might not be possible right
now, but it might be worth discussing it with the Koha people. (I'll
at least do that on IRC sometime soon.)
MfG, JBG
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8:02 a.m.
On Sun, 2010-05-16 13:53:08 +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw at lug-owl.de> wrote:
After moving to a new flat, I actually realized how
many books and
magazines my girlfriend and I own. That made me think about an
Integrated Library System (ILS), so we're thinking to use Koha[1] to
manage all our stuff. (For now, that's only like getting an overview
over all of our available books.)
*cough*
[1] http://koha-community.org/
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8:10 a.m.
I too watch the library and archive software world and also lurk in
#CODE4LIB on freenode.
Some open source stuff is mentioned here
http://archivalsoftware.pbworks.com/FrontPage
A lot of them rely on SOLR which is based on Lucene for their searches.
Part numbers include short and popular words that most search engines
ignore and dont index.
Table of contents does not seem well catered for in marc records,
which is one of the reasons I have not switched to any of the open
source systems.
Dave Caroline
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw at lug-owl.de> wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-19 15:57:42 +0200, Steve Maddison
<steve at cosam.org> wrote:
Since then it seems to have gone quiet. Did
anyone end up doing
anything with the dump, or were all the requests for this simply to
ensure that the raw data was preserved?
I've not yet done a lot with it, though I downloaded it when it was
made available and inspected it a bit.
After moving to a new flat, I actually realized how many books and
magazines my girlfriend and I own. That made me think about an
Integrated Library System (ILS), so we're thinking to use Koha[1] to
manage all our stuff. (For now, that's only like getting an overview
over all of our available books.)
Manx is, to some extend, a search frontend to a distributed library
with a number of branches (where actual data is stored, like on the
Manx site itself, or on Bitkeepers, or ...)
What's missing in a typical ILS is working on TOC data; however, I
guess that this can be added by mapping a number of MARC 21/UNIMARC
fields. So instead of hacking an own "Manx", it could be fruitful to
use something like Koha, possibly extending it a bit. Even right now,
you can attach URLs or files (eg. the PDF files) to an entry. Being
new to Koha, full-text (and TOC) searching might not be possible right
now, but it might be worth discussing it with the Koha people. (I'll
at least do that on IRC sometime soon.)
MfG, JBG
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