29 Mar
2018
29 Mar
'18
6:46 p.m.
Hello all,
I would like to try and get MU-BASIC working on my PDP-11/45, under RT-11 V4. The best
bits I've been able to find to work with so far are the RK05 image here:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/discimages/rk05/rt11v4-mu…
...but I've not had much success getting this to work under simh. Using the 1USER.CNF
configuration file in this image, no matter how I configure the machine, I get either
traps, halts, or stack violations when issuing the first command in basic.
Trying to rebuild MU-BASIC using the indirect files in the image results in a linker barf
on some undefined symbols.
Has anybody else here had much luck getting MU-BASIC up and running under RT-11 V4? Is
there an alternate image or distribution kit somewhere that I could try to work with?
thanks much,
--FritzM.
29 Mar
29 Mar
9:53 p.m.
fredag 30 mars 2018 skrev Fritz Mueller via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>:
Hello all,
I would like to try and get MU-BASIC working on my PDP-11/45, under RT-11
V4. The best bits I've been able to find to work with so far are the RK05
image here:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/
discimages/rk05/rt11v4-mubasicv2.rk.gz
...but I've not had much success getting this to work under simh. Using
the 1USER.CNF configuration file in this image, no matter how I configure
the machine, I get either traps, halts, or stack violations when issuing
the first command in basic.
Trying to rebuild MU-BASIC using the indirect files in the image results
in a linker barf on some undefined symbols.
Has anybody else here had much luck getting MU-BASIC up and running under
RT-11 V4? Is there an alternate image or distribution kit somewhere that I
could try to work with?
I have imaged some RX01 and RX02 floppy disks with RT11 V3B and MU Basic.
http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/rx01-and-rx02-floppy-disks
Not tested getting them running though.
/Mattis
thanks much,
--FritzM.
10:37 p.m.
On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mattis Lind
<mattislind at gmail.com> wrote:
I have imaged some RX01 and RX02 floppy disks with RT11 V3B and MU Basic.
http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/rx01-and-rx02-floppy-disks
<http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/rx01-and-rx02-floppy-disks>
Hi Mattis,
I did find your page above while googling, but the links seem dead (returns a 404 page
from dropbox?)
thanks much,
--FritzM.
10:54 p.m.
fredag 30 mars 2018 skrev Fritz Mueller via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>:
Oops! Sorry. Dropbox removed deeplinking to dropbox files and I started to
move files to new storage solution. But many files are still on the todo
list. I fix those files asap..
I'll get back soon.
/Mattis
On Mar 29, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mattis Lind
<mattislind at gmail.com> wrote:
I have imaged some RX01 and RX02 floppy disks with RT11 V3B and MU
Basic.
http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/rx01-
and-rx02-floppy-disks <http://www.datormuseum.se/
documentation-software/rx01-and-rx02-floppy-disks>
Hi Mattis,
I did find your page above while googling, but the links seem dead
(returns a 404 page from dropbox?)
thanks much,
--FritzM.
30 Mar
30 Mar
8:12 a.m.
I've used that image quite a bit for testing my vhdl pdp11. So it should work.
From a quick test, it appears as if the lpt device in
the default simh config
conflicts. If I disable that, mubas works fine for me.
Like so:
sim> set cpu 11/45
sim> set lpt disable
sim> att rk0 rt11v4-mubasicv2.rk
sim> boot rk0
RT-11FB (S) V04.00E
.SET TT QUIET
?KMON-W-No date
00:00:00
?KMON-F-Illegal device LP:
.R MUBAS
WARNING: DATE NOT SET
MU BASIC-11/RT-11 V2.00R
CONFIGURATION FILE : *1USER
MU BASIC-11/RT-11 IS OPERATIONAL.
PLEASE TYPE IN "HELLO".
Cheers,
Sytse
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 06:46:34 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to try and get MU-BASIC working on my PDP-11/45, under RT-11
V4. The best bits I've been able to find to work with so far are the RK05
image here:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/discimages/rk05/rt11v4-mu
basicv2.rk.gz
...but I've not had much success getting this to work under simh. Using the
1USER.CNF configuration file in this image, no matter how I configure the
machine, I get either traps, halts, or stack violations when issuing the
first command in basic.
Trying to rebuild MU-BASIC using the indirect files in the image results in
a linker barf on some undefined symbols.
Has anybody else here had much luck getting MU-BASIC up and running under
RT-11 V4? Is there an alternate image or distribution kit somewhere that I
could try to work with?
thanks much,
--FritzM.
10:20 a.m.
On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Sytse van Slooten
<cclist at sytse.net> wrote:
I've used that image quite a bit for testing my vhdl pdp11. So it should work.
Thanks, Sytse. In my case, I kept running up against traps and halts after that point,
while interacting with MU-BASIC after the "say hello" prompt. I may re-download
that image and start fresh one more time just to check. I'm using pre-release V4 simh,
built from the latest master in GitHub.
OTOH, I was able to get going last night using the RX01 images that Mattis provided. I
started from a fresh RTRKV4.00, then sysgen'd for multi-terminal and the hardware
config for my 11/45 and built a new bootable image. Copied on the contents of Mattis'
RX01 MU-BASIC distro floppies, edited the default 1USER.CNF for RK instead of RL, and it
worked right out of the box. I was even able then to RUN MUCNFG, create a new 2USER.CNF,
and run with both the console terminal and a simulated DZ11 in simh. So that's
encouraging!
I haven't tried re-linking yet with Mattis' distro bits to see of the missing
symbol problem is also gone, but its on the list of things to try.
cheers,
--FritzM.
8:25 a.m.
I've used that image quite a bit for testing my vhdl pdp11. So it should work.
From a quick test, it appears as if the lpt device in
the default simh config
conflicts. If I disable that, mubas works fine for me.
Like so:
sim> set cpu 11/45
sim> set lpt disable
sim> att rk0 rt11v4-mubasicv2.rk
sim> boot rk0
RT-11FB (S) V04.00E
.SET TT QUIET
?KMON-W-No date
00:00:00
?KMON-F-Illegal device LP:
.R MUBAS
WARNING: DATE NOT SET
MU BASIC-11/RT-11 V2.00R
CONFIGURATION FILE : *1USER
MU BASIC-11/RT-11 IS OPERATIONAL.
PLEASE TYPE IN "HELLO".
Cheers,
Sytse
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 06:46:34 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to try and get MU-BASIC working on my PDP-11/45, under RT-11
V4. The best bits I've been able to find to work with so far are the RK05
image here:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/discimages/rk05/rt11v4-mu
basicv2.rk.gz
...but I've not had much success getting this to work under simh. Using the
1USER.CNF configuration file in this image, no matter how I configure the
machine, I get either traps, halts, or stack violations when issuing the
first command in basic.
Trying to rebuild MU-BASIC using the indirect files in the image results in
a linker barf on some undefined symbols.
Has anybody else here had much luck getting MU-BASIC up and running under
RT-11 V4? Is there an alternate image or distribution kit somewhere that I
could try to work with?
thanks much,
--FritzM.
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