Okay, last update, I promise! I found this gem from the mysterious Stussy's web site: "The Stussy Corporation has filed suit in a California federal court against the Freshjive company, claiming that Freshjive infringed one of their trademarked logos." http://www.britishinformation.com/forums/post-7915.html#7915 So add "hypocrite" to the list... -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 'Computer Collector Newsletter' Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:24 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists Well, I did some more sleuthing, and finally found this buttmunch's profile. It included his Yahoo IM name so I promptly IM'd him. Turns out he is the site admin and, in fact, he sees no problem with publishing other people's hard work whatsoever. His defense: "I do it all the time, relax dude." That, of course, just ticked me off even more. He also went out of his way to assert that "ur a prick" for questioning his ethics. Oh, and his next defense was that he's older than me and worth millions, so clearly that means he knows more about the world. And in closing, he suggests that maybe he'll take it down, maybe he won't; that I shouldn't bother him because he's tired; and that if I want to maybe I should sue him. ETHICS. Not a new philosophy. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 'Computer Collector Newsletter' Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:53 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists Someone copied almost my ENTIRE pda history site onto the web forum at http://tinyurl.com/bhvpv ... Does anyone know what the deal is with this "britishinformation.com" site anyway? The thief who stole my work even included the hyperlinks but they don't work. The site includes a web form for contacting them so I sent a not-so-nice message, but I'm not optimistic about hearing back. Unfortunately I don't see any way to contact the user who posted this. ----------------------------------------- Evan Koblentz's personal homepage: http://www.snarc.net Computer Collector Newsletter: Mid-Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists & Museum:

LOL, thanks. Anyone in Britain want to go kick this guy's ass for me? There's a free pint in it for you! ;) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:53 PM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists Stem Distribution Ltd 64 Queens Road, Beckenham, London, Kent BR3 4JL GB Domain Name: BRITISHINFORMATION.COM Administrative Contact: Sarah Meheux domainadmin at britishinformation.com Stem Distribution Ltd 64 Queens Road Beckenham, Kent BR3 4JL GB Phone: 44 208 249 2690 Fax: 44 208 249 2690 Technical Contact: Sarah Meheux domainadmin at britishinformation.com Stem Distribution Ltd 64 Queens Road Beckenham, Kent BR3 4JL GB Phone: 44 208 249 2690 Fax: 44 208 249 2690 Billing Contact: Anthony Meheux tony at britishinformation.com Stem Distribution Ltd 64 Queens Road, Beckenham, Kent BR3 4JL GB Phone: +44 2082492690 Fax: +44 208249690 http://www.internet-marketing-companies.co.uk/ http://www.first-page-listings.co.uk/chatroom/printthread.php?t=1682 So, now you know where he lives and what he looks like. Cheers, Chuck

Oy, just what I need... I'm upping the ante to a keg if someone over there will go kick his ass for me. :) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jim Leonard Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:14 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists 'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: It is better to just forget about it at this point. Why? Because: 1. There's no question the work is yours 2. He doesn't care, and won't ever care 3. In my experience, people who meet the criteria of #2 are gone in 2 years, so the problem corrects itself. He's not trying to take credit for the work or gain profit from it, so instead of worrying about it for a few days, use that time more productively. Life's too short -- you could get hit by a bus tomorrow :-) Update: It appears he changed the forum posting to something libelous -- not sure that was your original intention. But the copied text is not there. -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/

In message <012e01c617b5$7d22f440$5f25fea9 at ibm23xhr06> "John Allain" <allain at panix.com> wrote: Um, there is such a thing as bad publicity... -- Phil. | Acorn RiscPC600 SA220 64MB+6GB 100baseT philpem at dsl.pipex.com | Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxe R2 512MB+100GB http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Space reserved for deserving tagline. ... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!

It appears that it has gone now (or moved). Dan

Thanks for the tip. It's now reduced to just "This guy is a liar." Oh well. At least that part's sometimes true. ;) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dan Williams Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:26 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists It appears that it has gone now (or moved). Dan

'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: Administrative Contact Sarah Meheux: domainadmin at britishinformation.com Stem Distribution Ltd 64 Queens Road Beckenham, Kent BR3 4JL GB Phone 44 208 249 2690 Fax 44 208 249 2690 Want me to give them a phone? Gordon.

Sure, that couldn't hurt any more, right? :) Seriously, if you think you can talk sense into 'em, then by all means, I would appreciate it. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:59 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists 'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: posted Administrative Contact Sarah Meheux: domainadmin at britishinformation.com Stem Distribution Ltd 64 Queens Road Beckenham, Kent BR3 4JL GB Phone 44 208 249 2690 Fax 44 208 249 2690 Want me to give them a phone? Gordon.

site. How do I do that? I guess you should reply off-list since this is now getting too OT ... sorry Jay! :) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Finnegan Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:56 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists On Tuesday 14 February 2006 12:28, 'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: Since he appears to be leeching images from your site, why don't you have some fun with him... either move your images, and replace the one's he's pointing to with something else (be creative), or have it give different images if the Referrer for the request is his site. Pat -- Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

Am 14 Feb 2006 11:01 meinte Chuck Guzis: Perfect solution ... except that I usualy choos the simple aproach: If someone uses my pics from MY server (and sucks bandwith) I just change the URL - a simple search and replace thru all my pages keeps my pages intact - and then I place a nice file at the old location, informing all visitors (of the other site) what happened, and how much I enjoyed his theft of bandwith. No Java, no complicated programms. If you realy want to go for the referer aproach, you should keep in mind that this will invalidate not only all reachbots (so, noone will find you page by searching for a picture of a specific machine), but also ban users from seeing picture wo either have unusual browser, or who are concerned about their privacy, and therefore have configured their browser not to send referer-header. Also, before using Java and bloating the pages, a simple regexp in the server configuration for the picture files can do the same trick. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Search apache docs for "referrer" and you'll find it. mod-referrer, I think. We do this on mobygames.com -- go ahead and try to link to an image on your own page to see what you get instead :-) 'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Roger Merchberger wrote: I recently did this myself after somebody stole some images I was using for an eBay listing. You just need a simple rewrite rule. If you're running apache, you can put something like the following in an .htaccess file: RewriteEngine on rewriteCond %{HTTP_referer} ^http://ripoff.com/pattern rewriteRule \.*$ http://foo.bar/newimage.jpg -- Doug

Feedback's been great -- thanks again everyone. It's not the images I care too much about, it's the (ahem) 10,000 words of text which is STILL posted over there: http://www.britishinformation.com/chat/printthread.php?t=1931 The poster thinks I'm ungrateful. I say he's a lowly thief. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Curt @ Atari Museum Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:30 AM To: General at smtp1.suscom.net; Discussion at smtp1.suscom.net :On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists Its bad enough when people steal photo's from a site, its far worse when they just link into your site and you get the pay the bandwidth costs so someone can make some money, its not so bad when its one or two auctions here or there... I had a huge spike in bandwidth usage one time and started to investigate, I had found nearly 4 dozen Atari related auctions running on ebay at any given time using stolen images directly linking from my server, so I cut off access to the ebay and subset domains from accessing my site. People on the net have gotten so used to the "its free, its free!" mentality of the Internet, they forget that somebody has to be paying these hosting and bandwidth bills someplace. Curt Doug Salot wrote: -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006

"Curt @ Atari Museum" wrote: I doubt you'll find anyone because they all "palletize" using gerber files. But I might be wrong. I wonder if you could not scan the film and then (waves arms and thinks of AI, chicken feathers and blind luck) somehow extract a gerber out of it. Actually, spending a minute in google, it seems that this is a common service done my cad conversion houses. Seems like feature extraction in such a limited domain might actually be pretty good - i.e. you could do it mostly in software. -brad

"Curt @ Atari Museum" wrote: Oh, I was *afraid* you where going there :-) that sure looks like a coin-op game to me! but what the heck are those 5 big Hershey bars? i can't tell from that photo, but it looks like there might be enough logic for some line ram and counters, maybe a cpu but I don't see any stacks of eproms for stamps or background. what ever it is the graphics can't be too magical. so, what is it? :-) i'm guessing it's not pong, becuase it has a cpu. -brad

Roger Merchberger wrote: ... Sorry, I was thinking coin-op game, not home computer. Very different. I don't have much experience with home computers. Most atari coin-op games have fairly obvious graphics hardware, either raster or vector, which is separate from the cpu... and an occasional pokey or two for sound :-) -brad

I don't know what you mean by 'cheap', but I think both RS and Farnell sell that range. You don't need that many of them, it may be cheaper to go there than hunt around (and maybe pay overseas shipping). -tony

On 2/15/06, Brad Parker <brad at heeltoe.com> wrote: If I had to guess, some bit-slice parts, like the AMD2901s or similar. I know they used them on games like "Star Wars" for vector processors. -ethan

Brad Parker wrote: Well if you really are stuck, try here. Too bad the USA has no real do it your self stuff any more. http://www.rcsradio.com.au/

Rumor has it that Chuck Guzis may have mentioned these words: Warning: Only a satisfied customer: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/218 Circuit Specialists has a lot of presensitized boards, chemicals, and even a few books in stock - they seem very hobby oriented, altho a few of their tools do seem kinda cheap... Their how-to book on making your own boards is pretty good, tho. http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7783 (link for the book) Now all I need to find is the time to tinker with the shiznit I have... Laterz, "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers _??_ zmerch at 30below.com (?||?) If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead _)(_ disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

It would be an interesting idea, use a CAD program, place the image as a background, maybe make the lines a bright color, then use the tools to literally do a CAD "trace" over the background and create a new digital image... Curt Richard wrote: -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006

of course I'm late as usual. How many of what are you trying to reproduce? The chemicals to produce your own boards (and chemicals aren't always even necessary) are readily available. I would say the first step is to produce scans of whatever artwork you have. --- "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com> wrote: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I'm all for linking. In fact, the site is linked all over the web, and I love that. IMHO, no one should need permission to link. If you put a site on the public web, then anyone can link to it. The whole point of hypertext, right? Prudent quoting is just as okay-dokey. My problem is with wholesale copying. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jim Leonard Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:58 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists 'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: Does he have permission to link to it? Do *I* have permission to link to it? -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/

Hans, thank you, I appreciate the support! (And from everyone else here on cctalk as well -- thank you.) ...Although it has nothing to do with bandwidth or money as far as I'm concerned. I write for a living, I worked for years on that site, and it's not "open source" for anyone to copy. The guy who copied it insists he did so for my own benefit, but it's not anyone else's IP but mine to decide what to do with, ya know? If I wanted other people's opinions to influence how it's presented, then I would have posted a wiki instead. I think even Richard Stallman would understand that. :) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Hans Franke Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:27 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists Am 14 Feb 2006 14:08 meinte 'Computer Collector Newsletter': YES, you nailed it. There are only two things which are bad: - copying a whole or partitional site (maybe with an exception for archiving/searching purpose and if permission to copy is given) - and stealing bandwith by using pictures from your site on his own without copying Well, you'll always have a hard time if someone is wgeting a whole page or site. Almost no way to chatch easy. At leas it desn't cost you additional money, as it is the case if he's only copying the text, and stil linking to your original pictures. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

I finally heard back from the site owner today. She apologized for Stussy's actions, removed the offending posts, and asked that "you and your friends stop posting on the Britishinformation.com boards. I am particularly concerned at the fact that your associates copied our sensitive whois data and published this alongside negative and untrue comments about our company on our website and cannot accept this so please do not do it again." Computer collectors are a force to be reckoned with! :) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 'Computer Collector Newsletter' Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:35 AM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists Son of a b--ch! The bastard plagiarist is BACK. I just found this posted <thread trimmed>

Agreed, but I'm just happy they removed the copied posts, so I didn't want to make more waves. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of der Mouse Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:32 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Bastard plagiarists *snerk* Anyone who thinks whois data is sensitive needs a pretty drastic reality check. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

On 3/15/2006 at 3:46 PM 'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: "How little it takes to make life unbearable: a pebble in the shoe, a cockroach in the spaghetti, a woman's laugh." -- H. L. Mencken Forget the idiot and walk away. He clearly is in chronic need of attention and has the emotional maturity of a 3 year old. Life is WAY too short to suffer gits like that. Have a nice dinner, enjoy a sunset with someone you love... --Chuck

I'm having fun playing with (currently) low-cost SlimSCSI cards in laptops and it's going well. I've made some outrageous kludges PCM card -> HD50 dongle -> HD50 ribbon -> adaptor -> IDC50 ribbon -> drive kinda things. They worked but I'd really prefer something like PCM card -> HD50 dongle -> adaptor -> DB25 IDC50, HD50, HD68, Untra4 device... Anybody have a supplier to reccomend?