On Wednesday 22 February 2006 03:40 pm, Richard wrote: You're observing that they're attuned to taking care of _their needs_, and thinking that they should be taking care of _your needs_ instead? Does this make sense? -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

On Wednesday 22 February 2006 05:56 pm, Richard wrote: Funny how often those two are viewed differently, though. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

On Wednesday 22 February 2006 03:47 pm, Lee Courtney wrote: Interesting product, and I'm downloading it as I type this... It's funny, too, that they mention the cuecat scanner as an input device -- I have a couple of these from when radio shack was giving them away free for the asking, and was wondering what I was gonna do with them. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

In article <20060222211701.GP19232 at lug-owl.de>, Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw at lug-owl.de> writes: ISBN numbers change when editions or bindings (paperback, hardback) change. I've started scanning through ebay looking for older books about computer graphics. Being a relatively new topic, its a 'collecting goal' that is within one's grasp until the point of around... TRON. :-) After that the number of publications starts growing exponentially. However, what I find really interesting about older graphics books is that they have pictures of period gear. Pictures that aren't on the net anywhere as the items all predate the "endless September" of the modern internet. I finally found a picture of an Evans & Sutherland Picture System 300, for instance. So, the 1973 edition of Newmann & Sproul's classic text has different photos and content from the 1978 2nd edition. All the ebay book listings give the ISBN, which lets you easily correlate information with Amazon (just enter the ISBN in the search box and it takes you right to the page). A simple flat text list of an initial book list is at <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/books.html>. However, its painfully obvious that this manual approach doesn't scale beyond a handfull of books. I'd like someone *else* to maintain the database of my collection, letting me just click on books I own to mark them as such and share the list of books with others. Again, all this is available on the "my movies" feature of <http://www.imdb.com>; if something like that was available for books, it would be perfect. ReaderWare looks interesting, but its $40 which is more than I'm willing to spend, since I'm not a "book collector", I'm a "computer graphics" collector, of which books are a part. Book collector software is probably overkill for what I'm after. I guess I could write a simple web scraper that would get the title, author and year information from amazon from the ISBN, but I'd rather not write anything either. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>