29 Oct
2006
29 Oct
'06
5:15 p.m.
There's a nice, very complete, 5360 on ebay, starting at $0. Believe it's in
?Kansas?. Seller seems a good guy - hope someone saves this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130041937602
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
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30 Oct
30 Oct
5:32 a.m.
I picked up the same setup for $1.00 earlier this year from a guy in
Colorado. This one on eBay appears in much better condition except
for the terminals which seem to have a fair amount of screen burn-in.
The stuff is very heavy, especially the 5225. Don't expect to ship
it, and don't expect to transport it in a pickup. You will need a
truck with a lift gate, or a wide ramp (difficult to find) and low-
profile deck (both units have wheels).
If anyone goes for it, I can help you with a few basics (like hacking
the memory to find the master security account/password, which you
need if you want to do anything useful). I've restored mine as best I
can (I'm too afraid to start removing cards from their cages because
this stuff is so old).
Good luck.
Paul
On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
There's a nice, very complete, 5360 on ebay,
starting at $0.
Believe it's in ?Kansas?. Seller seems a good guy - hope someone
saves this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130041937602
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
7:37 a.m.
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Paul Heller wrote:
The stuff is very heavy, especially the 5225.
Don't expect to ship it, and
don't expect to transport it in a pickup. You will need a truck with a lift
gate, or a wide ramp (difficult to find) and low-profile deck (both units
have wheels).
After helping to move Mike Ross' 5360 from the truck into the
exhibition hall at VCF East 3.0, I'll second that. Make sure you have at
least 4 baggage handlers to help.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
8:56 a.m.
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Paul Heller wrote:
The stuff is very heavy, especially the 5225.
Don't expect to ship
it, and don't expect to transport it in a pickup. You will need a
truck with a lift gate, or a wide ramp (difficult to find) and low-
profile deck (both units have wheels).
Nonsense!
http://www.kiwigeek.com/hjp/comps/IBM_s34/PickUp/
Of course, not everyone is willing to redneck picking up something like
that. Then again, I can't imagine it has that much value since no one here
is willing to take it back off my hands ;)
All things are possible, with a bit of imagination.
JP
4:42 p.m.
I am certainly impressed, and humbly stand corrected. I guess good
advice would be to take the tail gate off!
I've heard the 5360 weights 700 pounds. That could be wrong, but it
has to be at least 500 pounds.
Paul
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:56 AM, JP Hindin wrote:
Nonsense!
http://www.kiwigeek.com/hjp/comps/IBM_s34/PickUp/
Of course, not everyone is willing to redneck picking up something
like
that. Then again, I can't imagine it has that much value since no
one here
is willing to take it back off my hands ;)
All things are possible, with a bit of imagination.
JP
11:50 p.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems
Only about 13Years old, but quite large:
http://convex.topinform.de/c38/images/
Andreas
31 Oct
31 Oct
8:55 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems
In article <4547003D.6050504 at topinform.de>,
Andreas Holz <asholz at topinform.de> writes:
Only about 13Years old, but quite large:
http://convex.topinform.de/c38/images/
Nice! It saddens me when I see thick cables cut with bolt cutters
instead of detached from the receptacle and coiled up with the unit
though :-(.
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9:41 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems
Richard wrote:
Nice! It saddens me when I see thick cables cut with
bolt cutters
instead of detached from the receptacle and coiled up with the unit
though :-(.
A lot of times these systems may be hard wired to the mains, and this is
no loss, as one will open up the power supplies and rewire it with fresh
cable anyway.
I was worried from your post they had chopped data cables, but this
looks like a very good dismantle job and transport. Great find and
rescue.
Jim
10:17 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems
In article <45478AB9.4020604 at msm.umr.edu>,
jim stephens <jwstephens at msm.umr.edu> writes:
A lot of times these systems may be hard wired to the
mains, and this is
no loss, as one will open up the power supplies and rewire it with fresh
cable anyway.
But if they cut the mains end, you still have the original cable that
you can use! I imagine that they probably cut /both/ ends if it was
as you describe, leaving a bunch of cable for scrap. I guess I just
prefer not to see things go to waste. If they cut the cable at the
computer end, its not like they're going to do anything useful with
the cable from the mains end.
I was worried from your post they had chopped data
cables, but this
looks like a very good dismantle job and transport. Great find and
rescue.
Yeah, they look like power cables but I don't know for certain. I've
certainly seen all cabling, regardless of use, cut as a machine was
"decomissioned", even things like RS-232 cables that have a connector
on them!
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1 Nov
1 Nov
12:59 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems, Convex
Richard,
right, it is quite sad, but these can be substituted.
A much bigger problem was, that these systems, but not only these, are
using isolation transformers and these are often scrapped. Meanwhile I
got one from a Fujitsu VPP, but I've knowledge of a transformer in
Poland, a trip of 1000Km.
Another problem is documentation and software. Due to a lot of help from
former Convex people we got some, but far away from completeness.
This is not the only system, we have also:
- a C220, dual Vector
- 2 SPP1200XA (MP Pa-Risc, SCI)
- 3 SPP1200CD (MP Pa-Risc, SCI)
- 1 SPP1600XA (MP Pa-Risc, SCI)
- 1 SPP1600CD and one SPP1600 Chassis (MP Pa-Risc, SCI)
- 1 SPP2000 48 Processor System (MP Pa-Risc, CC-NUMA)
- 1 S-Class 32 Processor System (MP, Pa-Ris)
- 1 Cray J916
and these C3860 (Vector) beast (3,5ton + 500Kg Isolation Transformer +
500Kg SMD-Disc-Rack)
Andreas
In article <4547003D.6050504 at topinform.de>,
Andreas Holz <asholz at topinform.de> writes:
Only about 13Years old, but quite large:
http://convex.topinform.de/c38/images/
Nice! It saddens me when I see thick cables cut with bolt cutters
instead of detached from the receptacle and coiled up with the unit
though :-(.
31 Oct
31 Oct
10:56 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems
On 31/10/06 07:50, "Andreas Holz" <asholz at topinform.de> wrote:
Only about 13Years old, but quite large:
http://convex.topinform.de/c38/images/
Don't you just hate it when decommissioners cut the power cables like that!
Is the system still in bits or has it been reassembled?
--
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Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
1 Nov
1 Nov
1:05 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems, Convex
There are still missing parts, but there was a similar systems shutdown
this year in Poland and I'm still saving money for the rescue trip.
A very special problem are the X-Bar Connectors. There has to be used a
special silicone foil with fine gold fibers, called "fujis", and some of
these fujis and some spares are missing.
Andreas
On 31/10/06 07:50, "Andreas Holz" <asholz
at topinform.de> wrote:
Only about 13Years old, but quite large:
http://convex.topinform.de/c38/images/
Don't you just hate it when decommissioners cut the power cables like that!
Is the system still in bits or has it been reassembled?
2 Dec
2 Dec
9:55 a.m.
New subject: Discussion of large systems
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 18:56 +0000, Adrian Graham wrote:
On 31/10/06 07:50, "Andreas Holz" <asholz
at topinform.de> wrote:
The (possibly incomplete and very badly treated) Convex C200 (is it
supposed to be a single rack? It's not supposed to be upside-down, is
it?) belonging to the Norwegian Computer History Society, NODAF, has had
the cable cut in much the same way, so I think it was a relatively
common thing.
-Tore
Only about 13Years old, but quite large:
http://convex.topinform.de/c38/images/
Don't you just hate it when decommissioners cut the power cables like that!
Is the system still in bits or has it been reassembled?
31 Oct
31 Oct
8:11 a.m.
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Paul Heller wrote:
I am certainly impressed, and humbly stand corrected.
I guess good
advice would be to take the tail gate off!
I've heard the 5360 weights 700 pounds. That could be wrong, but it
has to be at least 500 pounds.
I have no clue how much the S/34 actually weighed - the woman I picked it
up from said that she was pretty sure the shipping label from her original
receipt of it (In 1980, for $188,000 no less) said 800lbs. Given the
amount of fun we had with the ratchet winches, and how much my half-ton
truck sank in the rear end, I believe it's plausible. ;)
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:56 AM, JP Hindin wrote:
Nonsense!
http://www.kiwigeek.com/hjp/comps/IBM_s34/PickUp/
Of course, not everyone is willing to redneck picking up something
like
that. Then again, I can't imagine it has that much value since no
one here
is willing to take it back off my hands ;)
All things are possible, with a bit of imagination.
JP
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