29 Jan
2006
29 Jan
'06
7:43 a.m.
While at Barnes & Noble the other night I found a DX book titled
"Collectibles Price Guide 2006" by Judith Miller ISBN 0-2566-1339-6. In it
where prices for several classic systems and in another section prices for
early gaming systems with the most way out value being a Virtual Boy for
$200+. Check it out at your local book store.
29 Jan
29 Jan
7:50 a.m.
In article <004e01c624ea$cddfc7e0$69406b43 at 66067007>,
"Keys" <jrkeys at concentric.net> writes:
While at Barnes & Noble the other night I found a
DX book titled
"Collectibles Price Guide 2006" by Judith Miller ISBN 0-2566-1339-6. In it
where prices for several classic systems and in another section prices for
early gaming systems with the most way out value being a Virtual Boy for
$200+. Check it out at your local book store.
Did you find the prices realistic?
While I love the historical information in "Collectible
Microcomputers", I've never seen systems sell for the low prices
listed in that book. Those prices seem to be the ones you would get
when the guy has his wife nagging him to get rid of the stuff and he
just wants it OUTTA HERE. In other words, they are fire sale
depressed prices, not the prices that an actual collector would get
from someone who is also a collector or in a maretplace
like ebay that
has many collectors looking for rare-ish items. That's my
feeling,
anyway. I compare prices on ebay to what's in CM and CM is always
lower, sometimes drastically so.
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No, none of the prices given were close to real, I only make note of these
books because even a year ago (2004) none of these books listed computers
and handheld games in them. The hobby (collector value) is becoming more
recognized by the established collector book writers. Still there are many
who do not list any computer stuff in their books.
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In article <004e01c624ea$cddfc7e0$69406b43 at 66067007>,
"Keys" <jrkeys at concentric.net> writes:
While at Barnes & Noble the other night I
found a DX book titled
"Collectibles Price Guide 2006" by Judith Miller ISBN 0-2566-1339-6. In
it
where prices for several classic systems and in another section prices
for
early gaming systems with the most way out value being a Virtual Boy for
$200+. Check it out at your local book store.
Did you find the prices realistic?
While I love the historical information in "Collectible
Microcomputers", I've never seen systems sell for the low prices
listed in that book. Those prices seem to be the ones you would get
when the guy has his wife nagging him to get rid of the stuff and he
just wants it OUTTA HERE. In other words, they are fire sale
depressed prices, not the prices that an actual collector would get
from someone who is also a collector or in a maretplace like ebay that
has many collectors looking for rare-ish items. That's my feeling,
anyway. I compare prices on ebay to what's in CM and CM is always
lower, sometimes drastically so.
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12:56 p.m.
--- Keys <jrkeys at concentric.net> wrote:
Still there are many
who do not list any computer stuff in their books.
An Apple one on Antiques Roadshow would change that
pretty quickly, I would guess
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--- Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
Did you find the prices realistic?
While I love the historical information in
"Collectible
Microcomputers", I've never seen systems sell for
the low prices
listed in that book.
Yes my experince too, I don't know why, the prices for
collectible computer systems generally haven't changed
too much for years, Altairs, IMSAIs,Sols, Apple II's
go for the same amount they did 5 years ago, for
instance
a ebay pricing guide would be useful, and it needs to
just be called just that, the price it sells on ebay,
whether people think it is too high or too low or
doesn't represent the true value shouldn't come in to
the equation. Although, someone would have to take
into account the condition and accesories sold with
the computer.
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In article <20060129211255.10748.qmail at web51613.mail.yahoo.com>,
steve <gkicomputers at yahoo.com> writes:
a ebay pricing guide would be useful, and it needs to
just be called just that, the price it sells on ebay,
whether people think it is too high or too low or
doesn't represent the true value shouldn't come in to
the equation. Although, someone would have to take
into account the condition and accesories sold with
the computer.
If it sold for $X on ebay, then it was worth $X to someone. That's
all a price is -- what people are willing to pay. If people aren't
willing to pay $X then it won't sell for $X on ebay. Sometimes the
'auction fever' aspect of ebay comes into play, but the same would be
true if there were enough collectors nationwide that you would have
competition for items in local markets. The net has a way of
aggregating local small markets into a single worldwide market. That
has a tendency to eliminate the local inefficiencies in markets and
that tends to make finding the "good deals" harder.
Today I was wondering if you couldn't build up a historical price
database for ebay (they purge their price data after a month or so, it
seems) by making searches for particular items that email you, but
only for *closed* items. Thus you get the information about the items
that closed emailed to you in a consistent format. With enough
accumulated data you should be able to start forming a price guide for
items. The rarer the item the longer you'd have to gather data before
being able to come up with enough examples to form a price guide.
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In article <20060129211255.10748.qmail at web51613.mail.yahoo.com>,
steve <gkicomputers at yahoo.com> writes:
Minor correction. It was worth _at least_ $X to someone. Several times
I've got classic computer bits for the opening bid because nobody else
wanted them (or perhaps knew what they were), my maximum bid was around
10 times that.
And the fact that it sold for $X on e-bay once doesn't mean it will
again. If you want a particular object, you might bid $X for it (and get
it). But if one shows up again, you might not want a second one, or would
at least bid considerably less for it. And if nobody else is interested...
-tony
a ebay pricing guide would be useful, and it
needs to
just be called just that, the price it sells on ebay,
whether people think it is too high or too low or
doesn't represent the true value shouldn't come in to
the equation. Although, someone would have to take
into account the condition and accesories sold with
the computer.
If it sold for $X on ebay, then it was worth $X to someone. That's
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