27 Jun
2006
27 Jun
'06
1:14 a.m.
anyone else having trouble accessing bitsavers in the last couple of days?
transfers seem to be prone to massive slowdowns ( < 2KB/s ) from here (but
other sites are fine).
(I don't have Al's address handy or I'd ask direct if he's got some
monster
update going on or something)
thanks
J.
27 Jun
27 Jun
12:47 a.m.
I had the same problem today at work using a T1 line it took over 3 hours to
download 25MB and it blow up before finishing.
I tried several times and after 8 hours could not download it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk>
To: <General at cnc.net>; "Discussion at cnc.net:On-Topic and Off-Topic
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:14 PM
Subject: bitsavers crawling?
anyone else having trouble accessing bitsavers in the last couple of days?
transfers seem to be prone to massive slowdowns ( < 2KB/s ) from here (but
other sites are fine).
(I don't have Al's address handy or I'd ask direct if he's got some
monster update going on or something)
thanks
J.
1:28 a.m.
You wrote....
I had the same problem today at work using a T1 line it
took over 3 hours
to download 25MB and it blow up before finishing.
I tried several times and after 8 hours could not download it.
See previous email.... but what mirror were you pulling the 25mb from?
Also, if someone wants more than a few files, please let me know off-list.
I'd be happy to go burn them on CD from the server rather than give up cash
for bandwidth overages :)
Jay West
1:26 a.m.
Jules wrote....
anyone else having trouble accessing bitsavers in the
last couple of days?
transfers seem to be prone to massive slowdowns ( < 2KB/s ) from here (but
other sites are fine).
Well, the first and most obvious question is - which mirror
were you trying
to pull the files from?
If it was the local bitsavers on classiccmp... Quest had a "bad hair day"
and dropped a router. As it happens, the way they re-routed stuff, traffic
to me (and many others) in St. Louis was routed oddly - like... washington
or something. In any case, there were drops and now there is delays during
the re-route. The last status I got from about 2 hours ago was "we should
have it fixed and back to routing as normal in a few hours".
Of course, if you were using any of the many many mirrors, this wouldn't
have been the issue. Did you try a mirror?
Jay West
10:34 a.m.
Jay West wrote:
Of course, if you were using any of the many many
mirrors, this wouldn't
have been the issue. Did you try a mirror?
*cough* ummm..
Jim asked me the same question privately just after I posted, which reminded
me that there *were* mirrors (I don't use bitsavers that often, valuable
resource though it is, so have only ever gone to the main site) - I'd gone in
via a link to the document area I was interested in, otherwise I would have
seen the mirrors list and thought: "aha!" :-)
(Actually, a "site slow? try one of our mirrors" link at the top of each page
might not be a bad idea if easily done, assuming others are as forgetful as me
and also have areas of the site that they're interested in directly bookmarked
such that they don't go via the main page)
Anyway, yeah. Mirrors. Good point. Oops. :-)
cheers
Jules
1:29 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
Jules Richardson wrote:
Jay West wrote:
Mirrors are an good idea, but if only the people who mirror would learn
that the time stamp of the original file should be preserved ;-)
Of course, if you were using any of the many many
mirrors, this
wouldn't have been the issue. Did you try a mirror?
Anyway, yeah. Mirrors.
Good point. Oops. :-)
2:02 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
E. wrote....
Mirrors are an good idea, but if only the people who
mirror would learn
that the time stamp of the original file should be preserved ;-)
Going from memory (too lazy to check), but I seem to recall that rsync
(we're using rsyncd on the bitsavers site for mirroring) has an option that
allows the timestamps to be corrected from source to destination without
retransferring the files. The mirrors should look in to that :)
Jay
3:47 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
e.stiebler wrote:
Mirrors are an good idea, but if only the people who mirror would learn
that the time stamp of the original file should be preserved ;-)
How about contacting the maintainers of the mirror(s) in question,
instead of whinging on some random mailing list?
--
Paul
7:43 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
Paul wrote...
How about contacting the maintainers of the mirror(s)
in question, instead
of whinging on some random mailing list?
I figured he was complaining about it here because I host the main site on
classiccmp (thus not a random list), and he figured I should do something
about it. So I replied that it was a choice of the mirroring system, not the
system being mirrored :)
Jay
8:01 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
the
Paul wrote...
> How about contacting the maintainers of the mirror(s) in question,
instead
of whinging on
some random mailing list?
I figured he was complaining about it here because I host the main site on
classiccmp (thus not a random list), and he figured I should do something
about it. So I replied that it was a choice of the mirroring system, not system being mirrored :)
Jay
What is the website for bitsavers (and the mirrors) anyway?
8:38 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
On Tuesday 27 June 2006 16:01, Teo Zenios wrote:
What is the website for bitsavers (and the mirrors) anyway?
bitsavers.org
The mirrors are listed there.
Pat
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8:41 p.m.
New subject: Mirrors, was : Re: bitsavers crawling?
What is the website for bitsavers (and the mirrors)
anyway?
www.bitsavers.org
scroll down about 1/4 of the way and on the left you'll see a list of the
mirrors and direct links to them.
Jay
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