10 Nov
2006
10 Nov
'06
12:04 a.m.
Checking to see if anyone out there has any of the following they would be
willing to part with... and if so, how much/etc...
VT78 (also known as W/T78 Word Terminal if memory serves me correct)
DecMate II
DecMate III+
PDP8/e
PDP8/f
PDP11/73, PDP11/83, or PDP11/93
DEC Professional Workstation 380 (PRO-380)
or other suitable (not overly LARGE) PDP11 class box for home
How bout an XKL TOAD-1 :-) ?
-- Curt
10 Nov
10 Nov
12:12 a.m.
Hi Curt,
I have most of this. Can I call you on my dime?
Thanks, Paul Anderson
217-586-5361
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: old DEC gear wanted
Checking to see if anyone out there has any of the following they would be
willing to part with... and if so, how much/etc...
VT78 (also known as W/T78 Word Terminal if memory serves me correct)
DecMate II
DecMate III+
PDP8/e
PDP8/f
PDP11/73, PDP11/83, or PDP11/93
DEC Professional Workstation 380 (PRO-380)
or other suitable (not overly LARGE) PDP11 class box for home
How bout an XKL TOAD-1 :-) ?
-- Curt
1:27 a.m.
Paul Anderson wrote:
Hi Curt,
I have most of this. Can I call you on my dime?
Sure... headed to bed now (much too late as usual :-) )...
My work # which you can reach me days is 617-252-6415
I'll be at that # tomorrow from around 9:30AM to 4:00PMish.
If you need to reach me in the evenings, let me know, and depending
on around what time you'd like to call I'll let you know the best #
to reach me.
This is all hobbyist of course (I doubt any PDP8 class gear is still
in production... but I wouldn't be surprised if a few PDP11s are
still doing some oddball stuff out there).
-- Curt
Thanks, Paul Anderson
217-586-5361
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: old DEC gear wanted
Checking to see if anyone out there has any of the following they would be
willing to part with... and if so, how much/etc...
VT78 (also known as W/T78 Word Terminal if memory serves me correct)
DecMate II
DecMate III+
PDP8/e
PDP8/f
PDP11/73, PDP11/83, or PDP11/93
DEC Professional Workstation 380 (PRO-380)
or other suitable (not overly LARGE) PDP11 class box for home
How bout an XKL TOAD-1 :-) ?
-- Curt
3:19 a.m.
At 1:27 AM -0500 11/10/06, Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. wrote:
This is all hobbyist of course (I doubt any PDP8 class
gear is still
in production...
Don't be, they're still around in industrial settings. They just
keep working so why spend the money to replace them.
but I wouldn't be surprised if a few PDP11s are
still doing some oddball stuff out there).
They're still around in various settings, industrial, scientific,
business, etc. They're used for such things as electron
microscopes, spectrum analyzers, controlling parts of nuclear plants,
etc., PDP-11's are still big business. In some cases it's because
they're still working, why spend the money to replace, in others it
would simply cost more to replace than it does to keep them running
(typically places where qualifying new HW/SW can cost insane amounts
of money).
Zane
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| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
10:26 a.m.
Zane wrote.... (re: PDP8 stuff)
They're still around in various settings,
industrial, scientific,
business, etc. They're used for such things as electron microscopes,
spectrum analyzers, controlling parts of nuclear plants,
Yeah, speaking of which. A guy in the northeast US is giving me a VERY good
condition dual H960 rack PDP-8A, with 128k (yup, 128k) ram, three RK05's,
dectape, etc... the picture is just gorgeous. And this is applicable...
because it was running a nuclear plant.
Sad part is, I have no room, and no time to get the machine. Hell, not sure
I want it at this point.
Was also just offered a PDP-11/05 that was decomissioned just days ago in
the upper midwest. Not sure I want that one either.
Jay
10:49 a.m.
On 11/11/06, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yeah, speaking of which. A guy in the northeast US is
giving me a VERY good
condition dual H960 rack PDP-8A, with 128k (yup, 128k) ram, three RK05's,
dectape, etc... the picture is just gorgeous.
Nice setup.
I don't know how useful the 128K of RAM is under OS/8, but I remember
there was a bit of support for it under RTS-8.
ISTR you could roll your own application-level support for memory
above 32KW, but OS/8 itself wouldn't twiddle KT8A registers, except,
perhaps, for a 96KW RAM disk. Does anyone have any clearer memory on
this? (I have a KT8A and 128KW MOS board, but haven't used them in
too long to remember details).
Sad part is, I have no room, and no time to get the
machine. Hell, not sure
I want it at this point.
Ow! It _is_ a larger PDP-8 setup than most.
-ethan
10:59 a.m.
On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
It is. I'd VERY happily make room for it here, if it can sit up
there for a few months until I can grab it. Any chance?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Cape Coral, FL
Yeah, speaking
of which. A guy in the northeast US is giving me a
VERY good
condition dual H960 rack PDP-8A, with 128k (yup, 128k) ram, three
RK05's,
dectape, etc... the picture is just gorgeous.
Nice setup.
I don't know how useful the 128K of RAM is under OS/8, but I remember
there was a bit of support for it under RTS-8.
ISTR you could roll your own application-level support for memory
above 32KW, but OS/8 itself wouldn't twiddle KT8A registers, except,
perhaps, for a 96KW RAM disk. Does anyone have any clearer memory on
this? (I have a KT8A and 128KW MOS board, but haven't used them in
too long to remember details).
Sad part is, I have no room, and no time to get
the machine. Hell,
not sure
I want it at this point.
Ow! It _is_ a larger PDP-8 setup than most. 
15 Nov
15 Nov
10:40 a.m.
On Nov 10, 2006, at 8:41 PM, Brad Parker wrote:
Does "help" mean "will grab the whole system and sit on it for me
for perhaps a couple of months until I can afford to rent a van to
come pick it up"? 8-) If so, then absolutely yes!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Cape Coral, FL
It is.
I'd VERY happily make room for it here, if it can sit up
there for a few months until I can grab it. Any chance?
I'll help if I can grab one of the rk05's.... 
10 Nov
10 Nov
4:01 p.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
At 1:27 AM
-0500 11/10/06, Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. wrote:
but I wouldn't be surprised if a few PDP11s
are
still doing some oddball stuff out there).
They're still around in various settings, industrial, scientific,
business, etc. They're used for such things as electron microscopes,
spectrum analyzers, controlling parts of nuclear plants, etc.,
PDP-11's are still big business. In some cases it's because they're
still working, why spend the money to replace, in others it would
simply cost more to replace than it does to keep them running
(typically places where qualifying new HW/SW can cost insane amounts
of money). 
5:55 p.m.
In article <4554E89B.8020605 at compsys.to>,
"Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> writes:
I don't have any estimates as to how much
"insane" might be,
but as a wild guess, from 10 to 1000 times the actual
cost of the associated software and hardware for the
actual system. [...]
Another application area where requalifying new equipment is
prohibitively expensive is anything regulated by the FDA as a medical
device. There is one medical equipment manufacturer that routinely
seeks out shrink-wrapped copies of DOS 6.2 in order to ship new
equipment. It keeps this guy in business <http://www.oldsoftware.com/>.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download
<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html>
15 Nov
15 Nov
3:48 a.m.
Jerome H. Fine wrote:
for just one subsystem. At Ontario Hydro, a typical
3,000 Megawatt station might have cost $ 10,000,000,000.00
to build, so the PDP-11/73 system would be only a small,
but critical sub-system.
Yeah, and then there's acceptance testing, fault simulation and so on.
You can't just roll it in and hook it up.
Gordon.
10 Nov
10 Nov
1:28 a.m.
Paul Anderson wrote:
Hi Curt,
I have most of this. Can I call you on my dime?
Thanks, Paul Anderson
217-586-5361
grrr... sorry bout the wasted electrons folks.... was supposed to go
private.... doh !
-- Curt
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: old DEC gear wanted
Checking to see if anyone out there has any of the following they would be
willing to part with... and if so, how much/etc...
VT78 (also known as W/T78 Word Terminal if memory serves me correct)
DecMate II
DecMate III+
PDP8/e
PDP8/f
PDP11/73, PDP11/83, or PDP11/93
DEC Professional Workstation 380 (PRO-380)
or other suitable (not overly LARGE) PDP11 class box for home
How bout an XKL TOAD-1 :-) ?
-- Curt
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