17 Jun
2007
17 Jun
'07
6:34 p.m.
Subject says it all. I have a ][gs Woz Edition but I read on the net
that there are various ROM versions. How can I tell what ROM version
I have without booting it up? I don't have the necessary additional
hardware to power it on and see the screen or type into it (no RGB
cable and no keyboard).
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17 Jun
17 Jun
6:58 p.m.
You can use the RCA connector to hook the IIgs up to a TV or composite
monitor, to power it up... But, from memory and my collection:
The ROM 03 is easiest to tell apart because its NVRAM battery is in a
plastic cage, and is user-replaceable. the ROM 00 and ROM 01 had
soldered-on batteries. There are differences in the board layouts as
well, but I don't have mine handy to take photos and illustrate.
Some ROM 01 boards are "stealth"; that is they have Apple IIe
connectors for power, keyboard, and LEDs to be retrofitted into an
Apple IIe's case. Other "non stealth" board has the solder pads, but
no connectors.
FWIW, if you have a ROM 00, it's only going to be good as a fast Apple
IIe. They didn't have enough memory onboard to run GS/OS, and the
ROMs didn't have the right firmware in them.
Turning it on, a ROM 00 is distinguishable because it doesn't say the
revision on the boot screen. A ROM 01 and 03 does say what it is,
when first turned on.
Josef
...who needs to hook up his IIgs machines again.
On 6/17/07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
Subject says it all. I have a ][gs Woz Edition but I
read on the net
that there are various ROM versions. How can I tell what ROM version
I have without booting it up? I don't have the necessary additional
hardware to power it on and see the screen or type into it (no RGB
cable and no keyboard).
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download
<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html>
Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>
--
"I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world
and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke."
-- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs,
"The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
7:26 p.m.
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Richard wrote:
Subject says it all. I have a ][gs Woz Edition but I
read on the net
that there are various ROM versions. How can I tell what ROM version
I have without booting it up? I don't have the necessary additional
hardware to power it on and see the screen or type into it (no RGB
cable and no keyboard).
Here are pictures of the ROM01 and ROM03 boards:
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/a2zine/Pics/IIgsMotherboardPics/IIgsRom01moth…
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/a2zine/Pics/IIgsMotherboardPics/IIgsRom03moth…
The differences are noticeable, between the 01 and 03 boards. You may
not be able to tell the difference between the 00 and 01 boards without
connecting it to a monitor. As another user said, just hook up a
composite video cable to a TV or monitor. The ROM 00 won't identify
itself, but the 01 and 03 will.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
8:21 p.m.
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706171916220.18089 at localhost.localdomain>,
Mike Loewen <mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us> writes:
Here are pictures of the ROM01 and ROM03 boards:
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/a2zine/Pics/IIgsMotherboardPics/IIgsRom01moth…
board.jpg
board.jpg
Based on this, I believe I have a ROM 01 motherboard. It has a memory
expansion card in it that appears fully populated. Does it display
the amount of memory visible on startup?
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8:39 p.m.
On 6/17/07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
Based on this, I believe I have a ROM 01 motherboard.
It has a memory
expansion card in it that appears fully populated. Does it display
the amount of memory visible on startup?
Unfortunately, no. You've got to have an Apple ADB keyboard to see
that (enter the NVRAM setup screens by hitting Ctrl-OpenApple-Escape,
and select the 'RAM Disk' to do so).
--
"I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world
and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke."
-- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs,
"The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
10:55 p.m.
New subject: Wanted: Apple ADB keyboard
In article <9e2403920706171739y297fe37dj6cbe2a1db48b675b at mail.gmail.com>,
"Josef Chessor" <josefcub at gmail.com> writes:
On 6/17/07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
wrote:
Anyone got an Apple ADB keyboard laying around they'd like to offload?
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Based on this, I believe I have a ROM 01
motherboard. It has a memory
expansion card in it that appears fully populated. Does it display
the amount of memory visible on startup?
Unfortunately, no. You've got to have an Apple ADB keyboard to see
that (enter the NVRAM setup screens by hitting Ctrl-OpenApple-Escape,
and select the 'RAM Disk' to do so). 
18 Jun
18 Jun
11:38 a.m.
New subject: Wanted: Apple ADB keyboard
Rumor has it that Richard may have mentioned these words:
In article
<9e2403920706171739y297fe37dj6cbe2a1db48b675b at mail.gmail.com>,
"Josef Chessor" <josefcub at gmail.com> writes:
I believe I do - I'd have to check the attic, tho, to be sure.
Dunno if it comes with a cable - would an S-Video cable work?
Let me know if you want me to dig it out. Just pay shipping.
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Bugs of a feather flock together."
sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Russell Nelson
zmerch at 30below.com |
On 6/17/07, Richard <legalize at
xmission.com> wrote:
Anyone got an Apple ADB keyboard laying around they'd like to offload? Based on this, I believe I have a ROM 01
motherboard. It has a memory
expansion card in it that appears fully populated. Does it display
the amount of memory visible on startup?
Unfortunately, no. You've got to have an Apple ADB keyboard to see
that (enter the NVRAM setup screens by hitting Ctrl-OpenApple-Escape,
and select the 'RAM Disk' to do so).
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