13 Nov
2015
13 Nov
'15
11:45 p.m.
Hey all --
Now that I have my PDP-11/05 running nicely, I'm curious what others are
running on small systems like this -- until this point I've only played
with larger (i.e. at least 28KW memory) systems. I have only 8KW of memory
(with no viable options for expansion) and there's not much out there that
I've found. There's paper-tape BASIC (which is always fun) and FOCAL, and
PTS-11 (http://iamvirtual.ca/PDP-11/PTS-11/PTS-11.htm) which is pretty cool
if a bit cumbersome. Any other suggestions?
I'm also curious if any version of RT-11 that supports the TU58 could be
made to run on this system -- I have two SLUs in the system so in theory I
can boot from an emulated TU58. However RT-11 4.0's SYSGEN manuals suggest
that 12KW is the minimum supported (and experimentation bears this out) and
I can't find much in the way of manuals for RT-11 V3B -- which I believe is
the earliest version with TU58 support. (V3B seems to be different enough
from later versions that I'm not quite sure how the
SYSGEN process works.)
Thanks as always,
Josh
13 Nov
13 Nov
11:52 p.m.
On 11/13/2015 5:45 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
Hey all --
Now that I have my PDP-11/05 running nicely,
What did you end up doing to arrive at
that functionality? Did I miss some emails?
I'm curious what others are
running on small systems like this -- until this point I've only played
with larger (i.e. at least 28KW memory) systems. I have only 8KW of memory
(with no viable options for expansion)
Can't MOS memory be put on the Unibus in
an expansion chassis?
and there's not much out there that
I've found. There's paper-tape BASIC (which is always fun) and FOCAL, and
PTS-11 (http://iamvirtual.ca/PDP-11/PTS-11/PTS-11.htm) which is pretty cool
if a bit cumbersome. Any other suggestions?
I'm also curious if any version of RT-11 that supports the TU58 could be
made to run on this system -- I have two SLUs in the system so in theory I
can boot from an emulated TU58. However RT-11 4.0's SYSGEN manuals suggest
that 12KW is the minimum supported (and experimentation bears this out) and
I can't find much in the way of manuals for RT-11 V3B -- which I believe is
the earliest version with TU58 support. (V3B seems to be different enough
from later versions that I'm not quite sure how the SYSGEN process works.)
Thanks as always,
Josh
14 Nov
14 Nov
12:43 a.m.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 2:52 PM, js at cimmeri.com <js at cimmeri.com> wrote:
On 11/13/2015 5:45 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
Total issues over the past year or so were:
- Power supply needed some work.
- CPU non-functional: traced down to a pair of microcode PROMs with bitrot;
regenerated PROM images from the original service manual scans on
Bitsavers. (Ugh)
- Dead 128 word region in 8KW core plane: Traced down to a broken wire on
the core mat; unfixable (by me at any rate). Lucked into a cheap (and
fortunately working!) replacement on eBay a couple of weeks back.
- Bad Boxer fan (completely dead, likely the cause of the PROM failures due
to overheating many years back...)
- Failing diagnostics: traced down to operator error on my part
(misjumpered SLU interrupt vector).
Hey all --
Now that I have my PDP-11/05 running nicely,
What did you end up doing to arrive at that functionality? Did I miss
some emails?
I'm curious what others are
Yes. "viable" in this case translates to "I have the parts on hand, or
parts are easy to come by."
Thanks,
- Josh
running on small systems like this -- until this
point I've only played
with larger (i.e. at least 28KW memory) systems. I have only 8KW of
memory
(with no viable options for expansion)
Can't MOS memory be put on the Unibus in an expansion chassis?
and there's not much out there that
> I've found. There's paper-tape BASIC (which is always fun) and FOCAL, and
> PTS-11 (http://iamvirtual.ca/PDP-11/PTS-11/PTS-11.htm) which is pretty
> cool
> if a bit cumbersome. Any other suggestions?
>
> I'm also curious if any version of RT-11 that supports the TU58 could be
> made to run on this system -- I have two SLUs in the system so in theory I
> can boot from an emulated TU58. However RT-11 4.0's SYSGEN manuals suggest
> that 12KW is the minimum supported (and experimentation bears this out)
> and
> I can't find much in the way of manuals for RT-11 V3B -- which I believe
> is
> the earliest version with TU58 support. (V3B seems to be different enough
> from later versions that I'm not quite sure how the SYSGEN process works.)
>
> Thanks as always,
> Josh
>
>
>
3:28 p.m.
On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Josh Dersch <derschjo
at gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all --
Now that I have my PDP-11/05 running nicely, I'm curious what others are
running on small systems like this -- until this point I've only played
with larger (i.e. at least 28KW memory) systems. I have only 8KW of memory
(with no viable options for expansion) and there's not much out there that
I've found. There's paper-tape BASIC (which is always fun) and FOCAL, and
PTS-11 (http://iamvirtual.ca/PDP-11/PTS-11/PTS-11.htm) which is pretty cool
if a bit cumbersome. Any other suggestions?
I'm also curious if any version of RT-11 that supports the TU58 could be
made to run on this system -- I have two SLUs in the system so in theory I
can boot from an emulated TU58. However RT-11 4.0's SYSGEN manuals suggest
that 12KW is the minimum supported (and experimentation bears this out) and
I can't find much in the way of manuals for RT-11 V3B -- which I believe is
the earliest version with TU58 support. (V3B seems to be different enough
from later versions that I'm not quite sure how the SYSGEN process works.)
RT11 V2 SJ will certainly fit easily in that size memory. DOS will fit even in 4K (at
least the older versions). Come to think of it, RT might also; I haven't tried it
that small.
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