31 May
2007
31 May
'07
11:11 a.m.
http://cgi.ebay.com/IDE-Controller-for-Hard-Drive-KS-4-16-Bit-ISA-1989_W0QQ…
Anyone have one of these they'd like to sell? I ain't
paying $50 though. Funny "Joe" seems to think generic
Taiwanese stuff should command that kind of value. And
he has a lot of it up for bidding, all priced in a
similar outrageous fashion.
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31 May
31 May
1:23 p.m.
This is a 16-bit one, which are as common as dirt. Just search for "ISA
IDE" and you'll probably find one for $10 or less in about a week.
The 8-bit ones, like the Silicon Valley Computer ADP-50, are quite
*uncommon*. It's usually more common to find an 8-bit SCSI card,
although in 2007 both are equally hard to find...
Chris M wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/IDE-Controller-for-Hard-Drive-KS-4-16-Bit-ISA-1989_W0QQ…
Anyone have one of these they'd like to sell? I ain't
paying $50 though. Funny "Joe" seems to think generic
Taiwanese stuff should command that kind of value. And
he has a lot of it up for bidding, all priced in a
similar outrageous fashion.
____________________________________________________________________________________Ready
for the edge of your seat?
Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
http://tv.yahoo.com/
2:56 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
I have an old glass TTY-type terminal made by a company called TEC.
It consists of two parts. The first part contains the main logic, all
on a board mounted in the back of the chassis), the video electronics,
power supply, and high-voltage power supply, along with monitor. The
second part is a rather clunky keyboard that attaches to the first part
with a connector cable.
The cabinets are painted almost an IBM-style blue. I don't know the
model number off the top of my head, but was wondering if anyone out
there knows anything about the history of these terminals. The thing
gives off vibes of being from the mid to late 1970's. The logic IIRC is
mostly TTL. Don't know what it uses for memory, but whatever it is,
it's got to be solid state, either shift registers, or RAM.
The thing powers up, and shows a display with some "large" and
"small"
characters (it appears to have two different font sizes), and a blinking
cursor which appears in multiple places on the screen, but doesn't
respond to any keyboard input. It has a DB-25 RS-232 connector
apparently for hooking up to a computer, but I don't know if it's wired
as DTE or DCE. There are also a bunch of dip switches on the logic
circuit board, which I assume are for setting up things like baud rate,
stop bits, number of bits,
Duplex, along with other options. There is also another DB-25 connector
on the back that appears as if it might be a "pass through" for
connecting a serial printer or something like that.
The terminal is packed away right now, but some of the recent talk about
the old Hazeltine terminals made me think of it. If there's interest, I
can dig it out and take some photos and put them up on a website for
viewing if that might help. Of course, once I dig it out, I can
probably ID the model number, then do a web search to see if I can find
anything out there, but figured I'd ask here first to see if anyone has
any information on the company or their terminals.
Thanks in advance.
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Web Museum
http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
2 Jun
2 Jun
11:17 a.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On Thursday 31 May 2007 17:56, Rick Bensene wrote:
?It has a DB-25 RS-232 connector apparently for
hooking up to a computer,
?but I don't know if it's wired as DTE or DCE.
Radio shack used to sell a small tester with 25 pin male and female connectors
on each end, had something like 7 bicolor LEDs on it. I found mine through
some surplus outfit years ago at about half the price, and find it
invalualble for answering questions like this...
--
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ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
4:42 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On Jun 2, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
They still sell 'em...I saw one on the pegboard last week. That
is one of the most-used pieces of test equipment around here, even
though it barely qualifies as "test equipment". Anybody who doesn't
have one either 1) never works with async serial, or 2) needs one. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
It has a
DB-25 RS-232 connector apparently for hooking up to a
computer,
but I don't know if it's wired as DTE or DCE.
Radio shack used to sell a small tester with 25 pin male and female
connectors
on each end, had something like 7 bicolor LEDs on it. I found
mine through
some surplus outfit years ago at about half the price, and find it
invalualble for answering questions like this... 
5:16 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
> Radio shack used to sell a small tester with 25
pin male and female
> connectors on each end, had something like 7 bicolor LEDs on it.
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Dave McGuire wrote:
They still sell 'em...I saw one on the pegboard
last week. That
is one of the most-used pieces of test equipment around here, even
though it barely qualifies as "test equipment". Anybody who doesn't
have one either 1) never works with async serial, or 2) needs one. ;)
Last time that I got one from RS, I opened it before using it, and was
amazed to find soldering significantly worse than MY soldering.
Once resoldered, it worked OK
4 Jun
4 Jun
5:34 a.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On 6/2/07, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Agreed. Mine was a blobby mess inside when I got it - looked great
after a bit of touch-up.
-ethan
> Radio
shack used to sell a small tester with 25 pin male and female
> connectors on each end, had something like 7 bicolor LEDs on it.
Last time that I got one from RS, I opened it before using it, and was
amazed to find soldering significantly worse than MY soldering.
Once resoldered, it worked OK 
3 Jun
3 Jun
1:56 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Radio shack
used to sell a small tester with 25 pin male and female
connectors
on each end, had something like 7 bicolor LEDs on it. I found
mine through
some surplus outfit years ago at about half the price, and find it
invalualble for answering questions like this...
They still sell 'em...I saw one on the pegboard last week. That
is one of the most-used pieces of test equipment around here, even
though it barely qualifies as "test equipment". Anybody who doesn't
have one either 1) never works with async serial, or 2) needs one. ;) 
3:43 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On 3 Jun 2007 at 21:56, Tony Duell wrote:
I'll go along with that. I have one, and I use it
a lot more than my
fancier RS232 test gear (like a Tekky datavoms terst). It's so easy just
to plug in the LED tester and see (as you said) which pin the thing is
transmitting on, which handshake lines is seems to be driving, and so on.
I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after about a week due to the
_terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
fine ever since.
Add to that the little RS-232 "patch boxes"--one male, one female DB-
25 and a PCB in between with pads for each conductor and a hood that
covers the whole works. I have several pre-wired and labeled with
things like "null modem" "crossover", etc. I even have one labeled
"Laplink parallel". Get enough of these and all you need are
straight-through cables--and maybe a gender changer or two. No
fooling around looking at a cable and saying "I wonder what this is
for..."
Cheers,
Chuck
4 Jun
4 Jun
2:58 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Add to that the little RS-232 "patch boxes"--one male, one female DB-
25 and a PCB in between with pads for each conductor and a hood that
covers the whole works. I have several pre-wired and labeled with
I just bought the empry housiongs nad fitted my own connectors, which I
hard-wired appropraitely (no PCB)> That means my null-modems have socks
on both ends, for example.
Be warned there was a ready-made 'null modem' adapter sold by Maplin in
the UK that had _cray_ wiring. I am not sure what it was designed to work
with, but I could find nothing that it was correct for.
things like "null modem"
"crossover", etc. I even have one labeled
"Laplink parallel". Get enough of these and all you need are
straight-through cables--and maybe a gender changer or two. No
The 'unviersal gender cable' is handy. Take a length of 25 way IDC ribbon
cable (e.g . strip 1 wire off some 26 way) about 2' long. Crimp a DB25
plug and a DB25 socket at each end (4 connectors total) making sure all
the pin 1s go to the same wire. Mkke a couple of them and you have no
need for gender benders.
-tony
5 Jun
5 Jun
9:20 a.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On Sunday 03 June 2007 18:43, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 3 Jun 2007 at 21:56, Tony Duell wrote:
Yeah, I have a few double-ended adapters with the connections labeled on
them, but one of these days would like to get my hands on one that you can
patch with jumpers. I've seen those jumpers for 0.025" square posts in
catalogs, but have yet to get my hands on any of them, or a suitable
adapter to use 'em with.
Not that I'm doing all that much with rs232 stuff these days anyway... :-)
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I'll go along with that. I have one, and I
use it a lot more than my
fancier RS232 test gear (like a Tekky datavoms terst). It's so easy just
to plug in the LED tester and see (as you said) which pin the thing is
transmitting on, which handshake lines is seems to be driving, and so on.
I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after about a week due to the
_terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
fine ever since.
Add to that the little RS-232 "patch boxes"--one male, one female DB-
25 and a PCB in between with pads for each conductor and a hood that
covers the whole works. I have several pre-wired and labeled with
things like "null modem" "crossover", etc. I even have one labeled
"Laplink parallel". Get enough of these and all you need are
straight-through cables--and maybe a gender changer or two. No
fooling around looking at a cable and saying "I wonder what this is
for..." 
4 Jun
4 Jun
1 a.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Hi,
Tony Duell said:
[RE RS232 tester]
I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after about
a week due to the
_terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
fine ever since.
http://www.cpc.co.uk item number CS11237 4.88+VAT
if you need replacement, I've just ordered one this weekend...
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb at dial.pipex.com
The future was never like this!
1:06 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
[RE RS232 tester]
> I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after about a week due to the
> _terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
> fine ever since.
some things should be opened and examined BEFORE use.
3:42 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Quoting Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>:
I recently purchased some diagnostic circuit boards and they are terrible, I am
seriously considering getting a rework station and removing all the non lead
based solder and re soldering them with good old fashioned lead based solder,
the soldier joints are horrible and there is some odd contamination (perhaps
some different flux they have to use with it) that comes to the surface when you
re solder the existing solder joints (black flecks) I contacted the dealer i
got them from and they told me that was normal for the lead-free solder that
they use now 0.o
[RE RS232
tester]
> I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after about a week due to
the
> _terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I
resoldered everything and it's
been
> fine ever since.
some things should be opened and examined BEFORE use.
6:10 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
I recently purchased some diagnostic circuit boards
and they are terrible, I am
seriously considering getting a rework station and
removing all the non lead
based solder and re soldering them with good old
fashioned lead based solder,
the soldier joints are horrible and there is some
odd contamination (perhaps
some different flux they have to use with it) that
comes to the surface when you
re solder the existing solder joints (black flecks)
I contacted the dealer i
got them from and they told me that was normal for
the lead-free solder that
they use now 0.o
Hehe, yeah. That lead free solder is a load of crap.
Neat idea, just too bad it doesn't actually work very
well. The lead was in there for a reason...
-Ian
7:30 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Mr Ian Primus wrote:
I think part of the problem is that the lead-free solders have
practically different thermal characteristics, but a lot of places
aren't taking that into account with their soldering-equipment budget.
Peace... Sridhar
I recently
purchased some diagnostic circuit boards
and they are terrible, I am
seriously considering getting a rework station and
removing all the non lead
based solder and re soldering them with good old
fashioned lead based solder,
the soldier joints are horrible and there is some
odd contamination (perhaps
some different flux they have to use with it) that
comes to the surface when you
re solder the existing solder joints (black flecks)
I contacted the dealer i
got them from and they told me that was normal for
the lead-free solder that
they use now 0.o
Hehe, yeah. That lead free solder is a load of crap.
Neat idea, just too bad it doesn't actually work very
well. The lead was in there for a reason...
3:45 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
[RE RS232 tester]
> I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after about a week due to the
> _terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
> fine ever since.
some things should be opened and examined BEFORE use.
4:31 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
some things
should be opened and examined BEFORE use.
Yes, I know that _now_ (and indeed, pull the covers of
everything I buy
now). But this was 20 years agom, before I'd had as much experience.
it's hard to resist an opportunity to "tell grandpa how to suck eggs"
3:37 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Hi,
Tony Duell said:
[RE RS232 tester]
And +postage presumably. From what I remmber (from needing some drvie
belts for a cassette recorder), CPC has a fairly high handling charge on
small orders.
I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after
about a week due to the
_terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
fine ever since.
http://www.cpc.co.uk item number CS11237 4.88+VAT if you need replacement, I've just ordered one
this weekend...
Unless mine gets run over by a traction engine, I am unlikely to need to
replacve it. If an LED fails, I'll (as ever) jsut replace that LED. It's
not exactly hard to fault-trace or repair...
On the other hand I might get a couple more to be able to monitor several
ports at once.
-tony
4:24 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On 4 Jun 2007 at 23:37, Tony Duell wrote:
> Unless mine gets run over by a traction engine, I
am unlikely to
need to
replacve it. If an LED fails, I'll (as ever) jsut
replace that LED. It's
not exactly hard to fault-trace or repair...
If I did more of RS-232 troubleshooting, I'd probably want one with a
pulse stretcher on at least SD and RD. At 115K, it's pretty hard to
notice a one-character blip. I don't know if any were made like
this, but it wouldn't be hard to cobble one up.
Cheers,
Chuck
8:28 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 4 Jun 2007 at 23:37, Tony Duell wrote:
The one I just received (a Navtel) has what appear (I haven't played with it
yet) to be pulse catchers which can be patched to any pin. Presumably they
latch on for a transition (there is a reset button). Which edge (+/-) they
watch for will be the question.
> Unless mine gets run over by a traction
engine, I am unlikely to
need to
replacve it. If an LED fails, I'll (as ever)
jsut replace that LED. It's
not exactly hard to fault-trace or repair...
If I did more of RS-232 troubleshooting, I'd probably want one with a
pulse stretcher on at least SD and RD. At 115K, it's pretty hard to
notice a one-character blip. I don't know if any were made like
this, but it wouldn't be hard to cobble one up.
5 Jun
5 Jun
12:51 a.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Hi,
Tony Duell said:
I have an account with them, and I'm usually ordering enough stuff p&p
is free so I tend to forget about that aspect. Just got a very nice
CTX 19-inch crt monitor from them - they were selling the last of them
off for 55 quid + VAT. Getting hard to get new CRT monitors now and the
cheap LCD ones are rubbish! We'll soon be reduced to scouring eBay for
real monitors :-)
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb at dial.pipex.com
The future was never like this!
Hi,
Tony Duell said:
[RE RS232 tester]
And +postage presumably. From what I remmber (from needing some drvie
belts for a cassette recorder), CPC has a fairly high handling charge on
small orders.
I bought mine over 20 years ago. It failed after
about a week due to the
_terrible_ soldering on the PCB. I resoldered everything and it's been
fine ever since.
http://www.cpc.co.uk item number CS11237 4.88+VAT
3 Jun
3 Jun
2:02 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
On Jun 2, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote:
>> It has a DB-25 RS-232 connector apparently for hooking up to a
>> computer,
>> but I don't know if it's wired as DTE or DCE.
Incidentally, did any company ever wire the DB25 RS232 connector on a
_terminal_ as a DCE???? I've seen computers with connectors wired both
ways, but I've never seen a terminal that wasn't a DTE (or for that
matter a modem that wasn't a DCE)
-tony
4 Jun
4 Jun
12:45 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Tony Duell wrote:
ways, but I've never seen a terminal that
wasn't a DTE (or for that
matter a modem that wasn't a DCE)
Well if you are wiring up your new TERMINAL and you have the standard
in front of you with a page that says data TERMINAL equipment then
you'd have to be pretty bloody minded to be different :-)
You'd also have interoperability issues (as you would with modems, no?)
Having said that, someone must have done it just to be contrary :-)
Antonio
1:08 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Well if you are wiring up your new TERMINAL and you
have the standard
in front of you with a page that says data TERMINAL
equipment then
you'd have to be pretty bloody minded to be
different :-)
Having said that, someone must have done it just to
be contrary :-)
Well, they never could decide on what gender to make
the connectors on the back of the terminal...
-Ian
2:31 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Mr Ian Primus wrote:
Indeed, I couldn't say whether I ever saw a terminal that was actually
*electrically* wired as DCE, but there was no shortage of terminals and
other equipment that got the gender wrong.
I don't have the RS232 spec in front of me but I have always been of the
understanding that it explicitly specifies that DCE shall be a female
connector and DTE male. You should be able to simply look at the
gender of the connector and know whether it was DCE or DTE. You would also be
able to look at a cable and know (in part) what it did: a M-F cable would be
straight thru, a F-F cable would be a null modem.
It has always been a source of annoyance (to me) with such equipment that you
can't rely on this and have to check everything.
(Either that or somebody correct me about the spec.!)
I actually just received an old (70s) RS232 breakout box. Rather than having a
male and a female DB25 which would make it trivial to insert in a line, it has
two female DB25s, which not only violates the spec but pretty much guarantees
that you're going to have to monkey around with an additional gender-changing
cable whenever you use it!
Well if you are wiring up your new TERMINAL and
you
have the standard
in front of you with a page that says data TERMINAL
equipment then
you'd have to be pretty bloody minded to be
different :-)
Having said that, someone must have done it just
to
be contrary :-)
Well, they never could decide on what gender to make
the connectors on the back of the terminal...
1:18 p.m.
New subject: Terminals with DCE (Was: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?)
Tony Duell wrote:
I have run across a number of terminals that had DCE wiring on their
DB-25 RS-232 connectors.
IIRC there was an early Ann Arbor terminal that was wired this way. I
also recall a NEC-made terminal that also had this weird wiring.
Lastly, there was a very strang little terminal that used a dot-matrix
LED display (1 line by 80 characters) that was "portable" and ran off of
a rechargeable battery pack (not for long) that was also wired this way.
It did have a built in modem, so you could just plug a phone line into
it (110 or 300 baud), but if you wanted to use it "hard wired" to a
computer, you had to use a null modem and some gender benders.
With regard to the TEC terminal, I still haven't gotten around to
posting photos yet. Will do so soon.
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Web Museum
http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
ways, but I've never seen a terminal that
wasn't a DTE (or for that
matter a modem that wasn't a DCE)
Well if you are wiring up your new TERMINAL and you have the
standard in front of you with a page that says data TERMINAL
equipment then you'd have to be pretty bloody minded to be
different :-)
You'd also have interoperability issues (as you would with
modems, no?)
Having said that, someone must have done it just to be contrary :-)
2:14 p.m.
New subject: Terminals with DCE (Was: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?)
If you have a terminal (particularly one with its own built-in modem),
that has a port for an external printer, then that may be wired DCE.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
2:39 p.m.
New subject: Terminals with DCE (Was: Anyone know anything about old TECTerminals?)
Rick Bensene wrote:
I have run across a number of terminals that had DCE wiring on their
DB-25 RS-232 connectors.
IIRC there was an early Ann Arbor terminal that was wired this way. I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
.. funny, that's one I was recalling as a problem (an otherwise nice basic terminal).
3:44 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Tony Duell wrote:
I would agree, which is why I am puzzled that the OP was wondering if his
terminal was a DTE ora DCE.
ways, but I've never seen a terminal that
wasn't a DTE (or for that
matter a modem that wasn't a DCE)
Well if you are wiring up your new TERMINAL and you have the standard
in front of you with a page that says data TERMINAL equipment then
you'd have to be pretty bloody minded to be different :-)
You'd also have interoperability issues (as you would with modems, no?)
Having said that, someone must have done it just to be contrary :-)
I'd be interested to know who....
-tony
3 Jun
3 Jun
4:35 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
In article <200706021417.36077.rtellason at verizon.net>,
"Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> writes:
On Thursday 31 May 2007 17:56, Rick Bensene wrote:
I just picked up one of these off ebay recently for like $5. It has a
nice little character chart for EBCDIC, ASCII and baudot, does current
loop as well as RS-232 and has a cyclic character generator to create
a repeating cycle of test characters.
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=A0It has a DB-25 RS-232 connector apparently for
hooking up to a compu=
ter,
=A0but I don't know if it's wired as DTE
or DCE.
Radio shack used to sell a small tester with 25 pin male and female conne=
ctors=20
on each end, had something like 7 bicolor LEDs on it. I found mine thro=
ugh=20
some surplus outfit years ago at about half the price, and find it=20
invalualble for answering questions like this... 
5 Jun
5 Jun
4:08 p.m.
New subject: Anyone know anything about old TEC Terminals?
Does anyone need the schematics for a TEC 2402?
A friend of mine long ago disposed of his old TEC 2402, but recently
found his Reference Drawings (965025-001) for the beast. Knowing that I
'collect' (accrete more like) old computer stuff, he gave the prints to
me. If anyone is interested, I can snail them out. The print set is
about 18 inches by 12 inches by .300 inches.
It's basically a bound stack of blue prints about 3/8 inch thick. Dates
from 1974/75.
Perhaps it should pass though Al's hands before it goes to its final
resting place...
For reference, this is TEC Incorporated of 2727 North Fairview Ave.,
Tuscon Arizona.
-Gary
Rick Bensene wrote:
I have an old glass TTY-type terminal made by a
company called TEC.
It consists of two parts. The first part contains the main logic, all
on a board mounted in the back of the chassis), the video electronics,
power supply, and high-voltage power supply, along with monitor. The
second part is a rather clunky keyboard that attaches to the first part
with a connector cable.
The cabinets are painted almost an IBM-style blue. I don't know the
model number off the top of my head, but was wondering if anyone out
there knows anything about the history of these terminals. The thing
gives off vibes of being from the mid to late 1970's. The logic IIRC is
mostly TTL. Don't know what it uses for memory, but whatever it is,
it's got to be solid state, either shift registers, or RAM.
The thing powers up, and shows a display with some "large" and
"small"
characters (it appears to have two different font sizes), and a blinking
cursor which appears in multiple places on the screen, but doesn't
respond to any keyboard input. It has a DB-25 RS-232 connector
apparently for hooking up to a computer, but I don't know if it's wired
as DTE or DCE. There are also a bunch of dip switches on the logic
circuit board, which I assume are for setting up things like baud rate,
stop bits, number of bits,
Duplex, along with other options. There is also another DB-25 connector
on the back that appears as if it might be a "pass through" for
connecting a serial printer or something like that.
The terminal is packed away right now, but some of the recent talk about
the old Hazeltine terminals made me think of it. If there's interest, I
can dig it out and take some photos and put them up on a website for
viewing if that might help. Of course, once I dig it out, I can
probably ID the model number, then do a web search to see if I can find
anything out there, but figured I'd ask here first to see if anyone has
any information on the company or their terminals.
Thanks in advance.
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Web Museum
http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
31 May
31 May
3:26 p.m.
I have an 8-bit/XT IDE card made by Acculogic (I think
that was the name). It does have a PAL chip, in
addition to some standard TTL chips. I'll look for
one, but I was of the impression they were a little
tough to find (the ones made from discrete logic that
is).
--- Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> wrote:
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This is a 16-bit one, which are as common as dirt.
Just search for "ISA
IDE" and you'll probably find one for $10 or less in
about a week.
The 8-bit ones, like the Silicon Valley Computer
ADP-50, are quite
*uncommon*. It's usually more common to find an
8-bit SCSI card,
although in 2007 both are equally hard to find...
Chris M wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/IDE-Controller-for-Hard-Drive-KS-4-16-Bit-ISA-1989_W0QQ…
Anyone have one of these they'd like to sell? I
ain't
paying $50 though. Funny "Joe" seems to
think
generic
Taiwanese stuff should command that kind of
value.
And
he has a lot of it up for bidding, all priced in
a
similar outrageous fashion.
for the edge of your seat?
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