25 Nov
2011
25 Nov
'11
10:09 a.m.
Hey everyone!
I need to raise some money for gifts this year so I'm cleaning out some of
the systems I don't play with any more.
Terms:
* I'm in Bloomington, IN (47408)
* Everything works as of the last time I turned them on
* Things that are shipped: Payment via paypal + actual costs for shipping
* Things that aren't shipped: Cash only, and I can meet within a 50 mile
radius or so. That means the south side of Indy, Terre Haute, etc.
* If it seems too high, make me an offer. Of course, if it seems to low you
can offer too :)
* Sun Ultra 5 ($40, will ship)
333 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 256M RAM, CDROM, Floppy, Needs ATA HD
* IBM RS/6000 43p 7248 ($20, will ship)
133 MHz PPC 604, 96M RAM, 2.2G SCSI Disk, CDROM
* DEC VT-420 ($25)
Amber, Keyboard, 2 MMJ Ports
* DEC VT-220 ($25)
Green, Keyboard, DB25 Port
* DECserver 200/MC ($25, will ship)
8 db25 ports
* AUI 10BaseT Tranceivers ($1 each, will ship)
10 available, 12" cable
* 21" NeXT MegaPixel Color ($25)
Model N4005A, 13w3 connector
* Kaypro 4/84 ($150)
a: 5.25", b: 3.5", original disks for: cp/m 2.2g, basic-80, microplan,
c-basic, datastar, reportstar, calcstar, wordstar, mailmerge, s-basic,
suprterm,dbase ii; looks like a pretty full set of manuals. I have the
2nd 5.25" drive if you want it as well. Broken right hand keyboard latch.
* Amiga 1000 System ($350)
In original box with manuals. 256K expansion, 1M side expansion,
kickstart/workbench 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 (originals and copies, some disks fail
due to age, but I could boot 1.1 and 1.3). Zenith color composite monitor,
and misc software.
* Apple IIgs System ($100)
3.5" and 5.25" drives. System 5.0.4 software plus lots of educational stuff.
12" color monitor. Owner's reference and getting started guide.
* 22 8" floppies ($10, will ship)
If they weren't so big they'd make great stocking stuffers. Maybe they can
be hung outside the stocking?
27 Nov
27 Nov
5:03 a.m.
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Brian Wheeler <bdwheele at indiana.edu> wrote:
* 22 8" floppies ($10, will ship)
?If they weren't so big they'd make great stocking stuffers. ?Maybe they can
?be hung outside the stocking?
What kind of 8 inch floppies are these?
Soft-sectored? ds/dd? or something else
Have a nice day.
--
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen,
Oslo, Norway
30 Nov
30 Nov
6:46 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
I've updated the list below, and I've got a question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year?
Economy? Priced too high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
I'm genuinely curious because when I've done this before I've managed to
clean out pretty well and this time seemed a little sparse.
Brian
On 11/25/2011 01:09 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote:
Hey everyone!
I need to raise some money for gifts this year so I'm cleaning out some of
the systems I don't play with any more.
Terms:
* I'm in Bloomington, IN (47408)
* Everything works as of the last time I turned them on
* Things that are shipped: Payment via paypal + actual costs for shipping
* Things that aren't shipped: Cash only, and I can meet within a 50 mile
radius or so. That means the south side of Indy, Terre Haute, etc.
* If it seems too high, make me an offer. Of course, if it seems to low you
can offer too :)
* Sun Ultra 5 ($40, will ship)
333 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 256M RAM, CDROM, Floppy, Needs ATA HD
* IBM RS/6000 43p 7248 ($20, will ship)
133 MHz PPC 604, 96M RAM, 2.2G SCSI Disk, CDROM
* DECserver 200/MC ($25, will ship)
8 db25 ports
* 21" NeXT MegaPixel Color ($25)
Model N4005A, 13w3 connector
* Kaypro 4/84 ($150)
a: 5.25", b: 3.5", original disks for: cp/m 2.2g, basic-80, microplan,
c-basic, datastar, reportstar, calcstar, wordstar, mailmerge, s-basic,
suprterm,dbase ii; looks like a pretty full set of manuals. I have the
2nd 5.25" drive if you want it as well. Broken right hand keyboard latch.
* Amiga 1000 System ($350)
In original box with manuals. 256K expansion, 1M side expansion,
kickstart/workbench 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 (originals and copies, some disks fail
due to age, but I could boot 1.1 and 1.3). Zenith color composite monitor,
and misc software.
* Apple IIgs System ($100)
3.5" and 5.25" drives. System 5.0.4 software plus lots of educational
stuff.
12" color monitor. Owner's reference and getting started guide.
7:06 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Brian Wheeler wrote:
I've updated the list below, and I've got a
question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year? Economy? Priced too
high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
I'm genuinely curious because when I've done this before I've managed to
clean out pretty well and this time seemed a little sparse.
For me, it's a combination of the economy and the fact that my wife will kill me if I
bring another system into the house before we move to a bigger one (she doesn't mind
the hobby, but we moved to this house knowing it would be temporary because it's
small, and we're really feeling it).
Personally, I'd love an Amiga or the Ultra 5 (I already have a IIgs), and the prices
are good, but the above reasons do it in for me for now. If you're still selling them
around April (when we hope to have moved to a bigger place), I'll be interested.
- Dave
9:43 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
My personal answer would be a significant lack of funds, space, and that I have most of
them. I'd imagine it's the target audience here which is a bit small, plus I
would certainly guess most of us have a good collection of systems which might include
these.
Have you tried posting them over at the vintage-computer.com forums? That'll also
help get some attention. If that fails there's always the auction site who must not
be named. A IIgs seems to yield pretty significant cash overseas although I'm not
sure if it's true with a 120v system or why.
The IBM is good if they're local :-) Otherwise it's $20 plus $120 or so to ship
heh
--- On Wed, 11/30/11, Brian Wheeler <bdwheele at indiana.edu> wrote:
From: Brian Wheeler <bdwheele at indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 8:46 AM
I've updated the list below, and I've
got a question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines??
Time of year?
Economy?? Priced too high?? Aliens??
Everyone already has one?
I'm genuinely curious because when I've done this before
I've managed to
clean out pretty well and this time seemed a little
sparse.
Brian
On 11/25/2011 01:09 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote:
Hey everyone!
I need to raise some money for gifts this year so I'm
cleaning out some of
the systems I don't play with any more.
Terms:
* I'm in Bloomington, IN (47408)
* Everything works as of the last time I turned them
on
* Things that are shipped:? Payment via paypal +
actual costs for shipping
* Things that aren't shipped:? Cash only, and
I
can meet within a 50 mile
? ? radius or so.? That means the south
side of Indy, Terre Haute, etc.
* If it seems too high, make me an offer.? Of
course, if it seems to low you
? ? can offer too :)
* Sun Ultra 5 ($40, will ship)
? ? 333 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 256M RAM, CDROM,
Floppy, Needs ATA HD
* IBM RS/6000 43p 7248 ($20, will ship)
? ? 133 MHz PPC 604, 96M RAM, 2.2G SCSI Disk,
CDROM
* DECserver 200/MC ($25, will ship)
? ? 8 db25 ports
* 21" NeXT MegaPixel Color ($25)
? ? Model N4005A, 13w3 connector
* Kaypro 4/84 ($150)
? ? a: 5.25", b: 3.5", original disks for:
cp/m 2.2g, basic-80,
microplan,
? ? c-basic, datastar, reportstar, calcstar,
wordstar, mailmerge, s-basic,
? ? suprterm,dbase ii; looks like a pretty
full set of manuals.? I have the
? ? 2nd 5.25" drive if you want it as
well.? Broken right hand keyboard latch.
* Amiga 1000 System ($350)
? ? In original box with manuals.? 256K
expansion, 1M side expansion,
? ? kickstart/workbench 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3
(originals and copies, some disks fail
? ? due to age, but I could boot 1.1 and
1.3).? Zenith color composite monitor,
? ? and misc software.
* Apple IIgs System ($100)
? ? 3.5" and 5.25" drives.? System 5.0.4
software plus lots of
educational stuff.
? ? 12" color monitor.? Owner's
reference and getting started guide.
9:51 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
On 11/30/2011 12:43 PM, Sam Onella wrote:
My personal answer would be a significant lack of
funds, space, and that I have most of them. I'd imagine it's the target audience
here which is a bit small, plus I would certainly guess most of us have a good collection
of systems which might include these.
Small target audience...? Man, do you have any idea of how many
people are on this mailing list??
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA
1:36 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
Hmm.. top post.. good and more correct point. In my head I was thinking regular posters
and comparing it to other drive-by users on other sites. I forget how many lurkers and
archives of the list there have been over the years.
To further the conversation though, the two comments on interesting stuff being over the
pond or other side of the country always seem to be the case but also kinda re-enforce
that idea of it being potentially worth more and more rare to an international market.
--- On Wed, 11/30/11, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
On 11/30/2011 12:43 PM, Sam Onella
wrote:
or bottom post? sweet, I get to add the >>'s myself too. Apparently I
*don't* yahoOOOOooo
imagine it's the target audience here which
is a bit small,
? Small target audience...?? Man, do you have any
idea of how many people are on this mailing list??
? ? ? ? ? -Dave 
11:01 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
The Amiga is tempting, but I don't have the space for it. Plus, I'm on the
other side of the "pond" so shipping would cost a fair amount of money.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Wheeler" <bdwheele at indiana.edu>
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
I've updated the list below, and I've got a
question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year?
Economy? Priced too high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
I'm genuinely curious because when I've done this before I've managed to
clean out pretty well and this time seemed a little sparse.
Brian
On 11/25/2011 01:09 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> Hey everyone!
>
> I need to raise some money for gifts this year so I'm cleaning out some
of
> the systems I don't play with any more.
>
> Terms:
> * I'm in Bloomington, IN (47408)
> * Everything works as of the last time I turned them on
> * Things that are shipped: Payment via paypal + actual costs for
shipping
> * Things that aren't shipped: Cash only, and
I can meet within a 50
mile
> radius or so. That means the south side of
Indy, Terre Haute, etc.
> * If it seems too high, make me an offer. Of course, if it seems to low
you
> can offer too :)
>
>
>
>
> * Sun Ultra 5 ($40, will ship)
> 333 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 256M RAM, CDROM, Floppy, Needs ATA HD
>
> * IBM RS/6000 43p 7248 ($20, will ship)
> 133 MHz PPC 604, 96M RAM, 2.2G SCSI Disk, CDROM
>
> * DECserver 200/MC ($25, will ship)
> 8 db25 ports
>
> * 21" NeXT MegaPixel Color ($25)
> Model N4005A, 13w3 connector
>
> * Kaypro 4/84 ($150)
> a: 5.25", b: 3.5", original disks for: cp/m 2.2g, basic-80,
microplan,
> c-basic, datastar, reportstar, calcstar,
wordstar, mailmerge,
s-basic,
> suprterm,dbase ii; looks like a pretty full
set of manuals. I have
the
> 2nd 5.25" drive if you want it as well.
Broken right hand keyboard
latch.
>
> * Amiga 1000 System ($350)
> In original box with manuals. 256K expansion, 1M side expansion,
> kickstart/workbench 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 (originals and copies, some
disks
fail
> due to age, but I could boot 1.1 and 1.3).
Zenith color composite
monitor,
> and misc software.
>
> * Apple IIgs System ($100)
> 3.5" and 5.25" drives. System 5.0.4 software plus lots of
educational stuff.
> 12" color monitor. Owner's reference
and getting started guide.
>
11:08 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
Isn't that almost always the case? Something nifty comes up and it ends
up being half a world away.
On 11/30/2011 02:01 PM, Andrew Burton wrote:
The Amiga is tempting, but I don't have the space
for it. Plus, I'm on the
other side of the "pond" so shipping would cost a fair amount of money.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Wheeler"<bdwheele at indiana.edu>
To:<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
I've updated the list below, and I've got
a question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year?
Economy? Priced too high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
I'm genuinely curious because when I've done this before I've managed to
clean out pretty well and this time seemed a little sparse.
Brian
On 11/25/2011 01:09 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote:
> Hey everyone!
>
> I need to raise some money for gifts this year so I'm cleaning out some
of
> the systems I don't play with any more.
>
> Terms:
> * I'm in Bloomington, IN (47408)
> * Everything works as of the last time I turned them on
> * Things that are shipped: Payment via paypal + actual costs for
shipping
> * Things that aren't shipped: Cash only,
and I can meet within a 50
mile
> radius or so. That means the south side
of Indy, Terre Haute, etc.
> * If it seems too high, make me an offer. Of course, if it seems to low
you
> can offer too :)
>
>
>
>
> * Sun Ultra 5 ($40, will ship)
> 333 MHz UltraSPARC IIi, 256M RAM, CDROM, Floppy, Needs ATA HD
>
> * IBM RS/6000 43p 7248 ($20, will ship)
> 133 MHz PPC 604, 96M RAM, 2.2G SCSI Disk, CDROM
>
> * DECserver 200/MC ($25, will ship)
> 8 db25 ports
>
> * 21" NeXT MegaPixel Color ($25)
> Model N4005A, 13w3 connector
>
> * Kaypro 4/84 ($150)
> a: 5.25", b: 3.5", original disks for: cp/m 2.2g, basic-80,
microplan,
> c-basic, datastar, reportstar, calcstar,
wordstar, mailmerge,
s-basic,
> suprterm,dbase ii; looks like a pretty
full set of manuals. I have
the
> 2nd 5.25" drive if you want it as
well. Broken right hand keyboard
latch.
> * Amiga 1000 System ($350)
> In original box with manuals. 256K expansion, 1M side expansion,
> kickstart/workbench 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 (originals and copies, some
disks
fail
> due to age, but I could boot 1.1 and
1.3). Zenith color composite
monitor,
> and misc software.
>
> * Apple IIgs System ($100)
> 3.5" and 5.25" drives. System 5.0.4 software plus lots of
educational stuff.
>> 12" color monitor. Owner's reference and getting started guide.
>> 
1:56 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
Isn't that almost always the case? Something nifty comes up and it ends
up being half a world away.
YEs :-) In several cases the shipping on an E-bay item ahs been 3 or 4
tiems my winning bid. I knew that before I bid, so I am not cmplaining.
But it does mean that it has to be soemthing that I really want.
-tony
1:54 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines?
Time of year?
Economy? Priced too high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
In my case it's a combination of :
Lack of spare funds. The time of year doens't help with this either.
Shipping them would be a problem, ther's an annoyign bit of water i nthe way.
Lack of space (seriously, I'd ahve problems findin spacve for another HP
calcualtor here.
-tony
5:41 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
Brian Wheeler wrote:
I've updated the list below, and I've got a
question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year?
Economy? Priced too high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
Hmm, I did take note of the VT220, but it's absolutely the worst time of
year for me - several family birthdays, Christmas gifts, huge winter
heating bills etc.; it gets a lot better come March or April.
Plus shipping costs seem to be ridiculous these days, which has a tendency
to add a significant amount to any price tag.
cheers
Jules
5:53 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Jules Richardson wrote:
Brian Wheeler wrote:
I haven't had to turn on the heat yet this winter because of my machines... don't
know if that should be bothering me or not.
- Dave
I've updated the list below, and I've got
a question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year? Economy? Priced too
high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
Hmm, I did take note of the VT220, but it's absolutely the worst time of year for me
- several family birthdays, Christmas gifts, huge winter heating bills etc.; it gets a lot
better come March or April.
1 Dec
1 Dec
6:41 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
David Riley wrote:
On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Jules Richardson wrote:
Hmm, we have about 15kW of electric heat in the house - I wouldn't mind
replacing that with something vintage. The only downside is that its supply
is load-controlled by the power company, so subject to dropping out without
warning. I suppose I could aim for something with core memory and no
flying-head drives :-)
cheers
Jules
Brian Wheeler wrote:
I haven't had to turn on the heat yet this winter because of my
machines... don't know if that should be bothering me or not. I've updated the list below, and I've got
a question for everyone.
So, why am I not getting any bites on the machines? Time of year?
Economy? Priced too high? Aliens? Everyone already has one?
Hmm, I did take
note of the VT220, but it's absolutely the worst time
of year for me - several family birthdays, Christmas gifts, huge
winter heating bills etc.; it gets a lot better come March or April. 
8:17 a.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
I haven't
had to turn on the heat yet this winter because of my
machines... don't know if that should be bothering me or not.
Hmm, we have about 15kW of electric heat in the house - I wouldn't mind
replacing that with something vintage. The only downside is that its supply
is load-controlled by the power company, so subject to dropping out without
warning. 
12:34 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
On average this house uses about 30kW/h minimum to
power and cool the server room.
Is that 30kWh/h (i.e., 30kW)? That seems like quite a lot for a
residence; it's 250A at 120VAC, for heat dissipation of 102 kBTU/hr.
30kWh/day would seem more believable.
1:15 p.m.
New subject: Christmas cleanup! [Updated]
On average
this house uses about 30kW/h minimum to
power and cool the server room.
Is that 30kWh/h (i.e., 30kW)? That seems like quite a lot for a
residence; it's 250A at 120VAC, for heat dissipation of 102 kBTU/hr.
30kWh/day would seem more believable.
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