30 Jul
2019
30 Jul
'19
10:53 p.m.
Hello vintage fans! This is exactly the kind of problem a growing
show wants to have, but it's a problem nonetheless. The Clarion Inn
hotel attached to our show venue is FULL for Saturday night 9/14.
There may be a few rooms left for Friday 9/13, but that doesn't do you
a whole lot of good if you're staying the weekend.
We have arranged a small room block at the Comfort Suites in Oak Brook
Terrace, a short drive away from our hotel (sadly there was nothing
nearby that was walkable). Room rates are the same ($109/night) and we
have King and Double rooms reserved from Thursday through Sunday
nights.
More information and a booking link can be found here:
http://vcfmw.org/hotel.html
We recommend checking with the host hotel (Clarion Inn, info at the
link) first in case a cancellation freed up a room before booking with
Comfort Suites. And remember - the deadline to book a room is August
24th. They're not going to let us slide!
Looking forward to seeing everyone there in September!
-jt
30 Jul
30 Jul
11:43 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West?
(other than Apple oneS)
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I was planning to take a carload of stuff down for consignment, but my
health has been too bad to even load the car.
11:52 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF
West?
(other than Apple oneS)
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I was planning to take a carload of stuff down for consignment, but my
health has been too bad to even load the car.
Because we're very busy planning a kick-ass event, and every time we
post here on cctalk it falls into an endless stream off threadjacking? :)
VCF West 2019 is indeed this weekend, August 3-4, as always at the
Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California.
This year's special attractions/speakers include:
- The aforementioned Apple 1 gathering. Before we said there will be "at
least" 10 original systems. Now it's looking like 12-15. Woz can't make
it this year, but Dan Kottke and other very early employees will be
there, along with Corey Cohen who is the go-to evaluator/restorer for
the major auction houses.
- A presentation about the Apollo Guidance Computer. Frank O'Brien (who
literally wrote the book about AGC architecture/operation) and CHM
restorer Carl Claunch will both be there.
- Everyone's favorite Commodore engineer, Bil Herd, will give a lecture
about the affects of age and heat on computer components.
- What else? Enigma machines, more CHM restoration projects, three dozen
amazing exhibits, our legendary VCF consignment sale, CHM museum tours,
great food, and incredible company/friends!
- Super-big-thanks to our sponsor Hackaday, and also to CHM for hosting
us, ACM for advertising our events on social media, and "viewers like
you" (so to speak) without which Vintage Computer Federation would have
no purpose. :)
- Tickets are available online and at the door.
- See all of the details at http://www.vcfed.org/vcfwest
1 Aug
1 Aug
11:05 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
our legendary VCF consignment sale,
Maybe at the other meets (e.g. MW or Pacific NW) but the last few times not so much at
VCFW. Last year I bought some stuff because Fred specifically brought stuff for me.
great food
Yeah..... Not quite ;)
, and incredible company/friends!
This now be
true!
Honestly the exhibits are great, the CHM access is an awesome bonus and do what I do eat
off site...
Unfortunately I will be missing it this year.
-Ali
p.s. Is this one of those thread jacking incidence you were talking about? ;)
4:19 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
> our legendary VCF consignment sale,
On Thu,
1 Aug 2019, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Maybe at the other meets (e.g. MW or Pacific NW) but
the last few times not so much at VCFW. Last year I bought some stuff because Fred
specifically brought stuff for me.
I don't know about "legendary"; I'd reserve that for Sellam's early
events
which were more like a flea market plus exhibits. BUT, I was very pleased
with how consignment was managed last year. I was surprised at how
thoroughly the "FREE" table cleared.
great food
Yeah..... Not quite ;) , and
incredible company/friends!
This now be true! Honestly the exhibits are great, the CHM access is an
awesome bonus and
do what I do eat off site...
Unfortunately I will be missing it this year.
It's a maybe whether I can manage to get there this year.
But, I won't be able to take a carload of stuff.
p.s. Is this one of those thread jacking incidence you
were talking about? ;)
Well, announcement of Apple Ones is certain to bring about
arguments about
the machine. I think that one is well worth $666.66 but not what people
are paying for them.
This "thread jacking" continuous heading off on tangents is the basis of
Vannevar Bush's dislike of hierarchical organization of information, Ted
Nelson's "Hypertext", and Berners-Lee's WWW.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
2 Aug
2 Aug
1:22 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:19 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Well, it wasn't bad. Not great; but OK.
Much like Diogenes' favorite wine :-)
And how!
As if anyone needed any further incentive to come to VCF, but I dragged
along a couple of personal items for consignment just in case anyone needed
any /enticement/:
- Terak 8510
- Xerox 6085 ("Daybreak")
Now you all have to come and buy my stuff (so I can fund a computer rescue,
help!)
- Josh
> our
legendary VCF consignment sale,
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Maybe at the other meets (e.g. MW or Pacific NW)
but the last few times
not so much at VCFW. Last year I bought some stuff because
Fred
specifically brought stuff for me.
I don't know about "legendary"; I'd reserve that for Sellam's early
events
which were more like a flea market plus exhibits. BUT, I was very pleased
with how consignment was managed last year. I was surprised at how
thoroughly the "FREE" table cleared.
great
food
Yeah..... Not quite ;) , and
incredible company/friends!
This now be true! Honestly the exhibits are great, the CHM access
is an awesome bonus and
do what I do eat off site...
Unfortunately I will be missing it this year.
It's a maybe whether I can manage to get there this year.
But, I won't be able to take a carload of stuff.
p.s. Is this one of those thread jacking
incidence you were talking
about? ;)
Well, announcement of Apple Ones is certain to bring about arguments about
the machine. I think that one is well worth $666.66 but not what people
are paying for them.
This "thread jacking" continuous heading off on tangents is the basis of
Vannevar Bush's dislike of hierarchical organization of information, Ted
Nelson's "Hypertext", and Berners-Lee's WWW.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com 
31 Jul
31 Jul
3:56 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
There have been lots of mentions of VCF West on social media and I think even in the
press.
I?m heading out to the west coast right now for the show and it?s going to be one for the
record books. There are more exhibitors (35+) then ever before and lots of cool talks.
Cheers,
Corey
corey cohen
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Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2019, at 2:43 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West?
(other than Apple oneS)
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I was planning to take a carload of stuff down for consignment, but my health has been
too bad to even load the car.
11:02 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
On 7/30/19 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF
West?
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I has been embarassingly underpromoted.
They couldn't even get the promo right on the http://www.vcfed.org banner for months
and I see it's already been dropped there to promote VCF MW
11:21 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
The only mention I've heard of the event is that the main attraction is 10
of the exact same boring, single-board, extremely simple, but incredibly
expensive computer. Perhaps an overrated collectible, rather than an
interesting technological showcase- my interests focus more toward the
latter.
That said, in spite of the main 'attraction,' I'm excited to see many of
you and will be there this weekend.
I hope the turnout is better than we expect...
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:02 AM Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 7/30/19 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is there a reason why there has been no mention
of VCF West?
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I has been embarassingly underpromoted.
They couldn't even get the promo right on the http://www.vcfed.org banner
for months
and I see it's already been dropped there to promote VCF MW
11:42 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ian Finder via cctalk wrote:
The only mention I've heard of the event is that
the main attraction is 10
of the exact same boring, single-board, extremely simple, but incredibly
expensive computer. Perhaps an overrated collectible, rather than an
interesting technological showcase- my interests focus more toward the
latter.
I find it interesting. It was not incredibly expensive at $666.66
But, crazy collectors can really make a mess of prices.
There will also be Apollo Guidance Computer
And Bill Herd speaking.
The tiny exhibits are fascinating.
Last year, I was over in consignment, and didn't get to see much of them,
other than to get Tim Paterson's autograph for Richard.
I hope the turnout is better than we expect...
Let's hope so!
I'd like to see it work out so well that it becomes worthwhile to hold it
twice a year.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
4:35 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
The only mention I've heard of the event is that
the main attraction is 10
of the exact same boring, single-board, extremely simple, but incredibly
expensive computer. Perhaps an overrated collectible, rather than an
interesting technological showcase- my interests focus more toward the
latter.
That said, in spite of the main 'attraction,' I'm excited to see many of
you and will be there this weekend.
Come by and check out my RISC tops! I spent all week configuring them for
the show ...
--
------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com
-- FORTUNE: Expect bright evenings, especially from the cop car lights. -------
9 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
> I see it's already been dropped there to
promote VCF MW
I don't know what you mean. "Dropped there to promote Midwest" ... that
is false. VCF West is atop our website header, our blog page, and the VC
Forum header.
It's true that we are focusing more on social media. There are a couple
of dozen Facebook groups for various aspects of retrocomputing that *
each * have multiple thousands of users. I think it's safe to say that
people here on Cctalk already know about VCF events. Usually, when I do
post about our events here, the response is either crickets or
threadjacking.
11:27 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
I has been embarassingly underpromoted.
Is it so great that it promotes itself, even with their light hidden under
a bushel? (well, I think so)
I realize that this group is pretty harsh in response to any
OVER-promotion, but nobody would make THAT accusation.
It has always been a great show, and the producers are to be heartily
commended. But, it wouldn't hurt to send a reminder or two! Spread the
word.
I'm going to try hard to go. Even if I won't have stuff packed up to
dump^H^H^H^H pass on to the other attendees.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
11:52 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:02 PM Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 7/30/19 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
I haven't heard much either, maybe it's all on Facebook and such. The old
mailing lists are being ignored?
b
Bill
Is there a reason why there has been no mention
of VCF West?
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I has been embarassingly underpromoted.
They couldn't even get the promo right on the http://www.vcfed.org banner
for months
and I see it's already been dropped there to promote VCF MW
4:36 p.m.
New subject: VCF West?
Is there a
reason why there has been no mention of VCF West?
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
I has been embarassingly underpromoted. 
1 Aug
1 Aug
11:04 a.m.
New subject: VCF West?
On 07/30/2019 23:43, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF
West?
(other than Apple oneS)
Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend?
On Tuesday a colleague at $WORK reposted the Hackaday announcement, and
he's far from the ccmp crowd. So word is getting around a little bit.
Evan's blog post didn't include a link to buy tickets, though the full
event page does. They are being handled through EventBrite:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/vintage-computer-festival-west-tickets-6309713…
Exhibit list looks nicely varied, though it would have been nice to see
an exhibit and/or talk about Bill Godbout and the role he played. (Yeah
yeah, I can already hear somebody saying, "DIY!")
--S.
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