19 May
2010
19 May
'10
1:02 p.m.
PDF report, "History of NSA General-Purpose Electronic Digital Computers":
http://www.governmentattic.org/3docs/NSA-HGPEDC_1964.pdf
19 May
19 May
2:12 p.m.
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:02:29 -0700
From: wbblair3 at yahoo.com
Subject: The Declassified History of NSA Computers
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
PDF report, "History of NSA General-Purpose Electronic Digital Computers":
http://www.governmentattic.org/3docs/NSA-HGPEDC_1964.pdf
Nice.
Also of interest, is specific changes / additions to the instruction sets that the NSA
requested. Seymour Cray knew they were going to be his best customer.
Take a look at his 'population count' sideways add, a useful instruction in
cryptography. It was included in all the Cray machines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamming_weight
Randy
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2:49 p.m.
Its too bad the pictures were only scanned at FAX resolution. I
wonder how you could file an FOIA request to get prints of the photos
or quality scans?
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20 May
20 May
1:55 a.m.
William Donzelli wrote:
FOUO is exempt from FOI.
That may have been true at one time, but certainly is not now. FOUO
documents are only exempt from FOIA if they are covered by one of the
categories of information that are exempted from FOIA by statute. Some
part of the government, including the DoD, have a policy of designating
documents FOUO if they *may* contain information that is exempted from
FOIA, but the FOUO designation itself is neither necessary nor
sufficient for the document to be exempted.
32 CFR 286.15(b) Prior FOUO application. The prior application of FOUO
markings is not a conclusive basis for withholding a record that is
requested under the FOIA. When such a record is requested, the
information in it shall be evaluated to determine whether disclosure
would result in a foreseeable harm to an interest protected by one or
more FOIA exemptions 2 through 9. Even if any exemptions apply, the
record shall be released as a discretionary matter when it is determined
that there is no foreseeable harm to an interest protected by the
exemptions.
See also:
http://rf-web.tamu.edu/security/Security%20Guide/S2unclas/Fouo.htm
http://www.ig.navy.mil/Divisions/Legal/FOIA%20%28QandA%29.htm#Are%20FOIA%20…
http://www.dlis.dla.mil/fouo.asp
19 May
19 May
4:11 p.m.
Very nice, but all before my time there.
One of the guys I worked with brought in a mid1975? issue of Playboy with an
interseting article on them. It touched some on their "mods" to equipment. I
know some one who might have it, and will try to post it if I can find it. I
think "Puzzle Palace" was the first book written on "No Such Agency"
and
several others followed. I have several of them, and can post names if
anyone is interested.
And what beat toys!
Paul
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, William Blair <wbblair3 at yahoo.com> wrote:
PDF report, "History of NSA General-Purpose
Electronic Digital Computers":
http://www.governmentattic.org/3docs/NSA-HGPEDC_1964.pdf
4:33 p.m.
One of the guys I worked with brought in a mid1975?
issue of Playboy with an
interseting article on them.
Mr Pibb -> keyboard
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4:44 p.m.
Hi
What fun it would have been to take the fellow that wrote
the article an bring him into the future today for just one day.
Dwight
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4:47 p.m.
Paul Anderson wrote:
Very nice, but all before my time there.
One of the guys I worked with brought in a mid1975? issue of Playboy with an
interseting article on them.
At SEL, we had contracts with the NSA and one of my old colleagues
described how one contract there during the 70's involved a Listening
Post in Iran which he had to install, called King's Knight (probably not
declassified but oh well). They eventually had to thermite the
installation obviously once the country was overthrown thanks to Khomeini .
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5:19 p.m.
I think that was a FLR-9. We had one at Chicksands. Google RAF Chicksands,
and there is a link somewhere for it. It took up anout 39 acres.
Paul
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Dan Roganti <ragooman at comcast.net> wrote:
Paul Anderson wrote:
Very nice, but all before my time there.
One of the guys I worked with brought in a mid1975? issue of Playboy with
an
interseting article on them.
At SEL, we had contracts with the NSA and one of my old colleagues
described how one contract there during the 70's involved a Listening Post
in Iran which he had to install, called King's Knight (probably not
declassified but oh well). They eventually had to thermite the installation
obviously once the country was overthrown thanks to Khomeini .
=Dan
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6:58 p.m.
William Blair wrote:
PDF report, "History of NSA General-Purpose Electronic Digital Computers":
http://www.governmentattic.org/3docs/NSA-HGPEDC_1964.pdf
Neat find, I like the mention of the 1940's ERA/Atlas, STRETCH, and the 60's
Harvest system.
'Fast' core memory with "multi-hole cores" sounds interesting too.
William Donzelli wrote:
Richard wrote:
> ?I
> wonder how you could file an FOIA request to get prints of the photos
> or quality scans?
Too bad, indeed, about the poor picture quality.
FOUO is exempt from FOI.
(Not my jurisdiction, but) according to the title page the report was
released under an FOIA request despite being stamped FOUO.
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